this is going to be the last one, then why not? It will undoubtedly
acquire the kind of long term cult following that GPL has, so it would
be nice to have some editing ability so that users can keep generating
fresh content for it.
Where do you get your numbers for the size of the GPL online community?
Surely you aren't assuming that all 200,000 copies are being used
online? I doubt that very much. And as far as size relative to Ghost
Recon, all PC shooters are dwarfed by the size of the Half-Life
community, which will typically be over 100,000 players at any point in
time (see http://www.gamespy.com/stats/ ). And Half-Life in turn is
dwarfed (no pun intended) by the average MMORPG. Seriously, I like GPL
as much as the next guy, but I don't really think the community is very
big or significant on a scale relative to other PC games. And that's
why GPL2 is unlikely to ever get made.
> > So...whats papy going to do AFTER n2003??
> > dan
> > > Oopsies, forgot the URL:
> > > http://www.homelanfed.com/index.php?id=9950
> > > > Brave talk from Papy's Rich Yasi on HomeLAN Fed (what DOES that
mean,
> > > > anyway?) site in re the upcoming--and last iteration--of NASCAR
> Racing.
> > > Now
> > > > what, Rich?
They've got millions rolling in from other sources; this isn't worth even
a look for them.
John
John
> My point is that we all can't work on the fun projects. There is real
work
> that needs to be done as well and companies want to make money.
> > Oops... hit "send" instead of "save". My bad.
> > I am going to rephrase my question, but I need to think about it first
as
> it
> > appears I'm not getting my meaning across.
> > Anyhow... to be continued.
> > Jan.
> > =---
> > "Jan Verschueren" wrote...
> > > <nothing as of yet>
Glen Pittman
> > On Mon, 28 Oct 2002 07:31:53 -0500, "David G Fisher"
> > >Don't you know that a future computer auto sim is of such incredible
> > >importance that it has to be kept top secret? The earth could explode
if
> > >this information slips out too early.
> > Consider how people were freaking out about the GPL 72 rumors being
> > false not to mention the whole West Bros fiasco, I'm not surprised
> > Papy is tighted lipped about their upcoming games. Personally, I'd
> > rather wait for a press release after the game has been slated for
> > definite release than read about it in an interview 2 years before it
> > ships.
> > Jason
> How many people on htis planet really were freaking out? I bet it wasn't
> actually all that many. :-) Those were rumours created by fans, not the
> company so they are irrelevant anyway.
> The West Brothers are two guys who haven't done anything yet, not an
> establised company.
> Papyrus knows what they are doing next. It's silly that they act like a
> little computer sim is crucial to world security. With them and some other
> developers, the secrecy thing goes beyond ridiculous.
> These are just GAMES played by kids and grown ups for entertainment.
> David G Fisher
> And I think they are going to fall flat on their face. This is not what
> Papy is all about. They are about real-life simulations (or at least as
> close as you can get). With console development they are diving into a
> snakes pit full of developers that have the development, marketing and
> everything else nailed down to a science.
Are you rec.autos.simulators fanboys on another planet, or what?
Haven't you heard of/played Gran Turismo 3? Consoles most certainly
do have the resources to caclucate things like physics now days. Of
course, PC's still have the graphical edge, but that's another matter.
I think you all hold GPL up like some yardstick, and if the driving
model isn't as difficult, well then, there must be something wrong
with it. And if a game has driving aids, well, it's just an arcade
game, even if you can turn them off.
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> They'll either do something 'big' as in F1, touringcars, rally or Cart
> or
> they'll go for "fantasy racing" aka Need for speed/ Grand Turismo etc.
JD
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> Hmm he's talking about "copies sold". Is there something you don't
> understand in that for you to assume they are "used online" ?? :)
I'm ymenard.
Weren't they dumping copies of it for a few bucks on shelves even three
years after it's release?
Please. It was a flop. I'd love to know how many were returned too.
David G Fisher
> So? Titanic made 1.6 billion dollars worldwide, that doesn't mean it
> equated 10 times the quality of a movie that made 160million$ at the Box
> Office.
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I 'm in awe that many are still in denial of that fact This subject has been beat to death.
Now, lets forget about GPL for now and get back on topic.............. N2003. :)
ah.........yes...... I believe its called setting a standard.