rec.autos.simulators

Me. You're best friend.

What drivers are you using for your wheel? Do you have Thrustmapper
installed? If you do, uninstall it.

You may have to uninstall your wheel drivers completely. Make sure you get
everything.

I ahd the 2.3.6 drivers installed with 0 problems in F12001 until I
installed the EA patch.. My ff was ***with the 2.3.6 drivers so I had to
do the above, and then go back to the 2.1.6 drivers. FF then was great, but
I had no split axis. Iain Mackenzie went through the same thing as me, but
then he upgraded to the 2.3.6 (latest) drivers and everything was fine. I
did the same and also have no problems now.

The key seems to be to get rid of any traces of your current drivers, and
then re-install the 2.3.6. Or, install the 2.1.6 and then upgrade to the
2.3.6. Make sure you don't install the Thrustmapper utility.

BTW, I'd recommend intalling the 2.1.6 drivers and then upgrading to the
2.3.6 if you are using XP because if something goes wrong, you can always
just click a button and easily revert back to the 2.1.6. You won't have
split axis in F12001, but you will have excellent ff.

Drivers are here. http://www.racesimcentral.net/

David G Fisher

DGF

It ran, but only in 640 x 480. The graphics also did some strange skipping
on occasion.

David G Fisher

| Forget that link. Don't know why it takes you to the Prophet drivers. Go
| here http://www.racesimcentral.net/
| drivers/download link at the bottom of the page under "Guillemot".
|
| DGF
|


| > Guess who's going to try and help you?
| >
| > Me. You're best friend.
| >
| > What drivers are you using for your wheel? Do you have Thrustmapper
| > installed? If you do, uninstall it.
| >
| > You may have to uninstall your wheel drivers completely. Make sure you
get
| > everything.
| >
| > I ahd the 2.3.6 drivers installed with 0 problems in F12001 until I
| > installed the EA patch.. My ff was ***with the 2.3.6 drivers so I had
to
| > do the above, and then go back to the 2.1.6 drivers. FF then was great,
| but
| > I had no split axis. Iain Mackenzie went through the same thing as me,
but
| > then he upgraded to the 2.3.6 (latest) drivers and everything was fine.
I
| > did the same and also have no problems now.
| >
| > The key seems to be to get rid of any traces of your current drivers,
and
| > then re-install the 2.3.6. Or, install the 2.1.6 and then upgrade to the
| > 2.3.6. Make sure you don't install the Thrustmapper utility.
| >
| > BTW, I'd recommend intalling the 2.1.6 drivers and then upgrading to the
| > 2.3.6 if you are using XP because if something goes wrong, you can
always
| > just click a button and easily revert back to the 2.1.6. You won't have
| > split axis in F12001, but you will have excellent ff.
| >
| > Drivers are here. http://www.racesimcentral.net/
| >
| > David G Fisher
| >


| > > Hello All RAS'ers,
| > > Well I finally got the EA F1 2001. I know you'all have probably
| > > hashed & re-hashed this all before but I haven't been online for
| > > months! {cuz I've been doin' my music thang}
| > > So I installed it just like the 'manual stated' & everything seems
| > > fine {AFAIK?} but in trying to set up my Ferrari FF wheel [A]
| > > it doesnt read my "Right Steer" and [B] it seems like I have no
| > > FF?... God only knows what I have missed in the past months
| > > with all the 'dos & donts' + patches for F1 2001 but if anyone
| > > can direct me to a site or help with the above, it's appreciated!
| > > Tia.. Thom_j.
| > > P.S. Look Out Kiddiez I'm Baaaaaack :)
| > > P.S.S. btw its the Guillemot aka Thrustmaster FF Ferrari Race
| > > Wheel I have..
| > >
| > >
| >
| >
|
|

| Okay I'm going to ask the obvious "are you sure it's plugged in" type of
| question: did you get the "development update" from
| http://www.easportsf1.com ?  Because without that you aren't going to
| get any FF no matter what you do!  Plus it fixes some driver issues as
| well.
|
|


| > Hello All RAS'ers,
| > Well I finally got the EA F1 2001. I know you'all have probably
| > hashed & re-hashed this all before but I haven't been online for
| > months! {cuz I've been doin' my music thang}
| > So I installed it just like the 'manual stated' & everything seems
| > fine {AFAIK?} but in trying to set up my Ferrari FF wheel [A]
| > it doesnt read my "Right Steer" and [B] it seems like I have no
| > FF?... God only knows what I have missed in the past months
| > with all the 'dos & donts' + patches for F1 2001 but if anyone
| > can direct me to a site or help with the above, it's appreciated!
| > Tia.. Thom_j.
| > P.S. Look Out Kiddiez I'm Baaaaaack :)
| > P.S.S. btw its the Guillemot aka Thrustmaster FF Ferrari Race
| > Wheel I have..
| >
| >
|

You probably would have had to go through everything I mentioned in my other
post anyway.

David G Fisher

| Ah, sh*t. I thought you already had the patch installed. :-)
|
| You probably would have had to go through everything I mentioned in my
other
| post anyway.
|
| David G Fisher
|
|
|


| > Not I didnt Haqsau!! Thanx alot! As I stated I have been offline
| > & not doing anything but my music since ahhmm? Aug or Sept!
| > So I need this below right? Is there any bug or anything I should
| > look for after doing this? Tia.. Thom_j.
| >


| > | Okay I'm going to ask the obvious "are you sure it's plugged in" type
of
| > | question: did you get the "development update" from
| > | http://www.easportsf1.com ?  Because without that you aren't going to
| > | get any FF no matter what you do!  Plus it fixes some driver issues as
| > | well.
| > |
| > |


| > | > Hello All RAS'ers,
| > | > Well I finally got the EA F1 2001. I know you'all have probably
| > | > hashed & re-hashed this all before but I haven't been online for
| > | > months! {cuz I've been doin' my music thang}
| > | > So I installed it just like the 'manual stated' & everything seems
| > | > fine {AFAIK?} but in trying to set up my Ferrari FF wheel [A]
| > | > it doesnt read my "Right Steer" and [B] it seems like I have no
| > | > FF?... God only knows what I have missed in the past months
| > | > with all the 'dos & donts' + patches for F1 2001 but if anyone
| > | > can direct me to a site or help with the above, it's appreciated!
| > | > Tia.. Thom_j.
| > | > P.S. Look Out Kiddiez I'm Baaaaaack :)
| > | > P.S.S. btw its the Guillemot aka Thrustmaster FF Ferrari Race
| > | > Wheel I have..
| > | >
| > | >
| > |
| >
| >
|
|

If so, you'll probably have good ff, but you won't be able to have split
axis. Make sure you turn off the centering spring. If the steering is too
sensitive, set the x axis sensitivity to about 20% and your speed
sensitivity to 65% or higher to start with. Throttle axis sensitivity set to
80%.

For the Ferrari wheel, you need to have ff strength set to full and +100.

If you have good ff (should be obvious) and no split axis with the 2.1.6,
then you should be ok now to go up to the 2.3.6 drivers which will give you
split axis ability.

David G Fisher

| So you have both the 2.1.6 drivers and the EA patch (it's the patch I
| referred to in my first post and contains the ff and driver updates) now
| installed?
|
| If so, you'll probably have good ff, but you won't be able to have split
| axis. Make sure you turn off the centering spring. If the steering is too
| sensitive, set the x axis sensitivity to about 20% and your speed
| sensitivity to 65% or higher to start with. Throttle axis sensitivity set
to
| 80%.
|
| For the Ferrari wheel, you need to have ff strength set to full and +100.
|
| If you have good ff (should be obvious) and no split axis with the 2.1.6,
| then you should be ok now to go up to the 2.3.6 drivers which will give
you
| split axis ability.
|
| David G Fisher
|
|


| > First thank you for the info David G Fisher :)
| > Now I think I did everything you stated below but maybe I should add
| > a bit of info. I did un-install "2.3.6" and I think I got everything out
| but
| > maybe not? as I just click it out of Control Panel, then go to run to
use
| > the cleanW.exe to do the un-install.
| > Then I reboot so it looks for the TM Ferrari wheel again but this time
| > I use the chkdsk.exe for 2.1.6 and Wah'Lah! So all was fine after that
| > but still no FF. Now don't forget this is a new install of F1 2001 right
| > out of box!
| > Also I must add that I do use Quickjoy to hop from my Guillemot ff
| > Joystick and back to my TM aka Guillemot FF wheel!! Plus It never
| > seems to conflict' each other at all & I have just about every sim still
| > on my hardrive back to ICR2. I run "Three" 30gig Maxtor HDS so I
| > have plenty of room.
| > One item I want to mention when I always used 2.3.6. when I am in
| > Control Panel\*** Option\Controllers\Properties: The X-axis in
| > Steering Axis will always center to the far right! So, when my actual
| > Ferrari wheel was Dead Center straight the "Red" would be gone &
| > the slider mark is all the way to the right! Am I making this clear?
| > Now when I put back in the 2.1.6 drivers in my wheel goes back to
| > Center' in the Control Panel\*** Option\Controllers\Properties
| > & all the axis configure fine in the applet. Odd...eh?
| > So now it is steering fine in F1 2001 {but it seems real twichy with
| > the steering wheel assist off!} but still no FF & I guess I'm so use
| > to FF that when it isnt there it feels terrible!
| > I have my Default Spring, In Gain Setting in the Ferrari properties
| > applet via the Control Panel Etc. Etc. {felt in non-force feedback
| > enabled games} set to 75% so I have some control centering my
| > wheel at the topdead center point when I steer in F1 2001. It still
| > is really squirrel'ie tho'...
| > Well this is as far as I have gone & I have not put back the 2.3.6
| > drivers yet until I am sure I am getting 'everything' out Correctly!
| > I probably went way to far on the above but I wanted to explain
| > as much as I could..
| > Regards Thom_j.
| > P.S. Specs:  CPU P3-1ghz, Mobo Abit SA6R, Sound SbLive,
| > RAM 512 PC133, Video GF2GTS Pro 64meg, Game Control
| > TM FF Ferrari Wheel & Guillemot FF joystick, OS Win98SE
| > P.S.S. I dont know what Thrustmapper is so I can't comment
| > on this & I run all my game controllers through my USB ports.
| >


| > | Forget that link. Don't know why it takes you to the Prophet drivers.
Go
| > | here http://www.racesimcentral.net/
the
| > | drivers/download link at the bottom of the page under "Guillemot".
| > |
| > | DGF
| > |


| > | > Guess who's going to try and help you?
| > | >
| > | > Me. You're best friend.
| > | >
| > | > What drivers are you using for your wheel? Do you have Thrustmapper
| > | > installed? If you do, uninstall it.
| > | >
| > | > You may have to uninstall your wheel drivers completely. Make sure
you
|
| > get
| > | > everything.
| > | >
| > | > I ahd the 2.3.6 drivers installed with 0 problems in F12001 until I
| > | > installed the EA patch.. My ff was ***with the 2.3.6 drivers so I
| had
| > to
| > | > do the above, and then go back to the 2.1.6 drivers. FF then was
| great,
| > | but
| > | > I had no split axis. Iain Mackenzie went through the same thing as
me,
| > but
| > | > then he upgraded to the 2.3.6 (latest) drivers and everything was
| fine.
| > I
| > | > did the same and also have no problems now.
| > | >
| > | > The key seems to be to get rid of any traces of your current
drivers,
| > and
| > | > then re-install the 2.3.6. Or, install the 2.1.6 and then upgrade to
| the
| > | > 2.3.6. Make sure you don't install the Thrustmapper utility.
| > | >
| > | > BTW, I'd recommend intalling the 2.1.6 drivers and then upgrading to
| the
| > | > 2.3.6 if you are using XP because if something goes wrong, you can
| > always
| > | > just click a button and easily revert back to the 2.1.6. You won't
| have
| > | > split axis in F12001, but you will have excellent ff.
| > | >
| > | > Drivers are here. http://www.racesimcentral.net/
| > | >
| > | > David G Fisher
| > | >


| > | > > Hello All RAS'ers,
| > | > > Well I finally got the EA F1 2001. I know you'all have probably
| > | > > hashed & re-hashed this all before but I haven't been online for
| > | > > months! {cuz I've been doin' my music thang}
| > | > > So I installed it just like the 'manual stated' & everything seems
| > | > > fine {AFAIK?} but in trying to set up my Ferrari FF wheel [A]
| > | > > it doesnt read my "Right Steer" and [B] it seems like I have no
| > | > > FF?... God only knows what I have missed in the past months
| > | > > with all the 'dos & donts' + patches for F1 2001 but if anyone
| > | > > can direct me to a site or help with the above, it's appreciated!
| > | > > Tia.. Thom_j.
| > | > > P.S. Look Out Kiddiez I'm Baaaaaack :)
| > | > > P.S.S. btw its the Guillemot aka Thrustmaster FF Ferrari Race
| > | > > Wheel I have..
| > | > >
| > | > >
| > | >
| > | >
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|

Just make sure you don't install Thrustmapper (I don't think it's included
with this download).

I don't have any clue as to what causes the wheel to appear off center in
control panel. Maybe it won't be that way after a new install of the 2.3.6
drivers.

Get Ian Bell's post patch setups including Hockenheim (all of them are
excellent) here http://www.simbin.com/f12001setups.htm

I think 1:37 is a fast time.

Da

"David G Fisher" <davegfnos...@home.com> wrote in message
news:_dTW7.334948$5A3.128867579@news1.rdc2.pa.home.com...
| Yes, as long as the ff is ok with the 2.1.6 drivers then you just upgrade
| using the 2.3.6 drivers here.
| http://uk.guillemot.com/brand/support/find_drv.php
|
| Just make sure you don't install Thrustmapper (I don't think it's included
| with this download).
|
| I don't have any clue as to what causes the wheel to appear off center in
| control panel. Maybe it won't be that way after a new install of the 2.3.6
| drivers.
|
| Get Ian Bell's post patch setups including Hockenheim (all of them are
| excellent) here http://www.simbin.com/f12001setups.htm
|
| I think 1:37 is a fast time.
|
| Da
|
| "Thom j." <thom_j2...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
| news:h6TW7.334944$5A3.128859851@news1.rdc2.pa.home.com...
| > "Oooo" Ok! See, as stated I'm so out of touch I didnt know any
| > of this! So I *can* go back to my 2.3.6 right? Also refer to how
| > weird my X-Axis is in the 2.3.6. applet window in control panel!
| > It never hurt any of my other Sims but I thought I better put it in
| > so you would know what I see when I am setting it up..
| > Again I just got F1 2001 today! Btw: what are the hotlaps times
| > for Hock? Just curious.. Tia.. Thom_j.
| >
| > "David G Fisher" <davegfnos...@home.com> wrote in message
| > news:g%SW7.334943$5A3.128852578@news1.rdc2.pa.home.com...
| > | So you have both the 2.1.6 drivers and the EA patch (it's the patch I
| > | referred to in my first post and contains the ff and driver updates)
now
| > | installed?
| > |
| > | If so, you'll probably have good ff, but you won't be able to have
split
| > | axis. Make sure you turn off the centering spring. If the steering is
| too
| > | sensitive, set the x axis sensitivity to about 20% and your speed
| > | sensitivity to 65% or higher to start with. Throttle axis sensitivity
| set
| > to
| > | 80%.
| > |
| > | For the Ferrari wheel, you need to have ff strength set to full and
| +100.
| > |
| > | If you have good ff (should be obvious) and no split axis with the
| 2.1.6,
| > | then you should be ok now to go up to the 2.3.6 drivers which will
give
| > you
| > | split axis ability.
| > |
| > | David G Fisher
| > |
| > |
| > | "Thom j." <thom_j2...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
| > | news:OkSW7.334923$5A3.128803932@news1.rdc2.pa.home.com...
| > | > First thank you for the info David G Fisher :)
| > | > Now I think I did everything you stated below but maybe I should add
| > | > a bit of info. I did un-install "2.3.6" and I think I got everything
| out
| > | but
| > | > maybe not? as I just click it out of Control Panel, then go to run
to
| > use
| > | > the cleanW.exe to do the un-install.
| > | > Then I reboot so it looks for the TM Ferrari wheel again but this
time
| > | > I use the chkdsk.exe for 2.1.6 and Wah'Lah! So all was fine after
that
| > | > but still no FF. Now don't forget this is a new install of F1 2001
| right
| > | > out of box!
| > | > Also I must add that I do use Quickjoy to hop from my Guillemot ff
| > | > Joystick and back to my TM aka Guillemot FF wheel!! Plus It never
| > | > seems to conflict' each other at all & I have just about every sim
| still
| > | > on my hardrive back to ICR2. I run "Three" 30gig Maxtor HDS so I
| > | > have plenty of room.
| > | > One item I want to mention when I always used 2.3.6. when I am in
| > | > Control Panel\Gaming Option\Controllers\Properties: The X-axis in
| > | > Steering Axis will always center to the far right! So, when my
actual
| > | > Ferrari wheel was Dead Center straight the "Red" would be gone &
| > | > the slider mark is all the way to the right! Am I making this clear?
| > | > Now when I put back in the 2.1.6 drivers in my wheel goes back to
| > | > Center' in the Control Panel\Gaming Option\Controllers\Properties
| > | > & all the axis configure fine in the applet. Odd...eh?
| > | > So now it is steering fine in F1 2001 {but it seems real twichy with
| > | > the steering wheel assist off!} but still no FF & I guess I'm so use
| > | > to FF that when it isnt there it feels terrible!
| > | > I have my Default Spring, In Gain Setting in the Ferrari properties
| > | > applet via the Control Panel Etc. Etc. {felt in non-force feedback
| > | > enabled games} set to 75% so I have some control centering my
| > | > wheel at the topdead center point when I steer in F1 2001. It still
| > | > is really squirrel'ie tho'...
| > | > Well this is as far as I have gone & I have not put back the 2.3.6
| > | > drivers yet until I am sure I am getting 'everything' out Correctly!
| > | > I probably went way to far on the above but I wanted to explain
| > | > as much as I could..
| > | > Regards Thom_j.
| > | > P.S. Specs:  CPU P3-1ghz, Mobo Abit SA6R, Sound SbLive,
| > | > RAM 512 PC133, Video GF2GTS Pro 64meg, Game Control
| > | > TM FF Ferrari Wheel & Guillemot FF joystick, OS Win98SE
| > | > P.S.S. I dont know what Thrustmapper is so I can't comment
| > | > on this & I run all my game controllers through my USB ports.
| > | >
| > | > "David G Fisher" <davegfnos...@home.com> wrote in message
| > | > news:SFPW7.334180$5A3.128649902@news1.rdc2.pa.home.com...
| > | > | Forget that link. Don't know why it takes you to the Prophet
| drivers.
| > Go
| > | > | here http://uk.guillemot.com/corp/liens/indexlien.html and then
hit
| > the
| > | > | drivers/download link at the bottom of the page under "Guillemot".
| > | > |
| > | > | DGF
| > | > |
| > | > | "David G Fisher" <davegfnos...@home.com> wrote in message
| > | > | news:oxPW7.334174$5A3.128643140@news1.rdc2.pa.home.com...
| > | > | > Guess who's going to try and help you?
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Me. You're best friend.
| > | > | >
| > | > | > What drivers are you using for your wheel? Do you have
| Thrustmapper
| > | > | > installed? If you do, uninstall it.
| > | > | >
| > | > | > You may have to uninstall your wheel drivers completely. Make
sure
| > you
| > |
| > | > get
| > | > | > everything.
| > | > | >
| > | > | > I ahd the 2.3.6 drivers installed with 0 problems in F12001
until
| I
| > | > | > installed the EA patch.. My ff was crap with the 2.3.6 drivers
so
| I
| > | had
| > | > to
| > | > | > do the above, and then go back to the 2.1.6 drivers. FF then was
| > | great,
| > | > | but
| > | > | > I had no split axis. Iain Mackenzie went through the same thing
as
| > me,
| > | > but
| > | > | > then he upgraded to the 2.3.6 (latest) drivers and everything
was
| > | fine.
| > | > I
| > | > | > did the same and also have no problems now.
| > | > | >
| > | > | > The key seems to be to get rid of any traces of your current
| > drivers,
| > | > and
| > | > | > then re-install the 2.3.6. Or, install the 2.1.6 and then
upgrade
| to
| > | the
| > | > | > 2.3.6. Make sure you don't install the Thrustmapper utility.
| > | > | >
| > | > | > BTW, I'd recommend intalling the 2.1.6 drivers and then
upgrading
| to
| > | the
| > | > | > 2.3.6 if you are using XP because if something goes wrong, you
can
| > | > always
| > | > | > just click a button and easily revert back to the 2.1.6. You
won't
| > | have
| > | > | > split axis in F12001, but you will have excellent ff.
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Drivers are here.
| http://uk.guillemot.com/brand/support/find_drv.php
| > | > | >
| > | > | > David G Fisher
| > | > | >
| > | > | > "Thom j." <thom_j2...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
| > | > | > news:eRNW7.333958$5A3.128560716@news1.rdc2.pa.home.com...
| > | > | > > Hello All RAS'ers,
| > | > | > > Well I finally got the EA F1 2001. I know you'all have
probably
| > | > | > > hashed & re-hashed this all before but I haven't been online
for
| > | > | > > months! {cuz I've been doin' my music thang}
| > | > | > > So I installed it just like the 'manual stated' & everything
| seems
| > | > | > > fine {AFAIK?} but in trying to set up my Ferrari FF wheel [A]
| > | > | > > it doesnt read my "Right Steer" and [B] it seems like I have
no
| > | > | > > FF?... God only knows what I have missed in the past months
| > | > | > > with all the 'dos & donts' + patches for F1 2001 but if anyone
| > | > | > > can direct me to a site or help with the above, it's
| appreciated!
| > | > | > > Tia.. Thom_j.
| > | > | > > P.S. Look Out Kiddiez I'm Baaaaaack :)
| > | > | > > P.S.S. btw its the Guillemot aka Thrustmaster FF Ferrari Race
| > | > | > > Wheel I have..
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > >
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | >
| > | >
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|

| Yes you definitely need the patch.  It is also a good idea to delete
| your old player and create a new one after patching, to make sure all
| the settings are correct.  You will then find a force feedback icon in
| the controllers menu somewhere - I think it looks like a vibrating
| joystick IIRC.  Click on that to go into the FF settings.  I think DGF
| already gave you some recommended settings to start with.  Also, and
| this is largely a subjective thing, I prefer to set Speed Sensitivity
| (in the main controller menu) to 10%, and X Axis Sensitivity (in the
| advanced controller menu, which I think is a joystick icon with the
| number 1 next to it) to about 20%.  This seems to me to be the best
| compromise between controllability and linearity.  YMMV.  Good luck,
| Thom!
|
|


| > Not I didnt Haqsau!! Thanx alot! As I stated I have been offline
| > & not doing anything but my music since ahhmm? Aug or Sept!
| > So I need this below right? Is there any bug or anything I should
| > look for after doing this? Tia.. Thom_j.
| >


| > | Okay I'm going to ask the obvious "are you sure it's plugged in"
| type of
| > | question: did you get the "development update" from
| > | http://www.racesimcentral.net/ ?  Because without that you aren't going
| to
| > | get any FF no matter what you do!  Plus it fixes some driver issues
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| > | > Hello All RAS'ers,
| > | > Well I finally got the EA F1 2001. I know you'all have probably
| > | > hashed & re-hashed this all before but I haven't been online for
| > | > months! {cuz I've been doin' my music thang}
| > | > So I installed it just like the 'manual stated' & everything seems
| > | > fine {AFAIK?} but in trying to set up my Ferrari FF wheel [A]
| > | > it doesnt read my "Right Steer" and [B] it seems like I have no
| > | > FF?... God only knows what I have missed in the past months
| > | > with all the 'dos & donts' + patches for F1 2001 but if anyone
| > | > can direct me to a site or help with the above, it's appreciated!
| > | > Tia.. Thom_j.
| > | > P.S. Look Out Kiddiez I'm Baaaaaack :)
| > | > P.S.S. btw its the Guillemot aka Thrustmaster FF Ferrari Race
| > | > Wheel I have..
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