rec.autos.simulators

I have read many post complaining about no***pit view, we (playtesters)
asked Bethesda to put this in but I guess they didn't think it was
necessary,plus from testing the game I think it would be kind of hard to see
the sides of your hood to make sure you don't cross the center line or hit
the wall on a run.In other words so you could see where the front of your
car is at all times,because of the lack of a***pit view doesn't make this
a arcade game,plenty of people use arcade view in N2 when racing so they can
see their whole car.I read one message that one guy took the game back or
decide not buy it because of the lack of a***pit view,to me that is plain
stupid,the view you use doesn't make the game good or bad.

I have ran Burnout since the first day of testing in Win95 with no lockups
using 3dfx,I believe most or all testers used the 3dfx version of the game
(mistake on our part).But from one of the e-mails we recieved from Bethesda
for the regular version you had to copy the Burnout.exe from the Xengine
folder on the cd over the one on you hard drive,because of install problems
on the regular version,hopefully the fixed that problem since it was in the
early stages of testing.By give it a shot it might work.

The best part of this sim YES SIM is in how many options you have to play
with in the engine, ***, tires, suspension and so forth.You can take on
setup that runs great in one car and it will run like ***in the next.So
just give the game a couple days to grow on you,like I stated a few days ago
I am a huge N2 fan and take my sim racing seriousily,but when I started
testing Burnout I basically forgot about N2,we will start Mplayer testing
soon and thats when the fun will start,from what I hear there might be prize
money at stake (MIGHT!!!!), just like at your local dragstrips.

If Don or I find or hear of any more problems or solutions to your problems
with the game we will be glad to post them here.Please feel free to ask us
any questions we will be glad to help if we can and if we don't have the
answer we will do or best to find one.We do not get paid for this we just
know how everyone feels about buggy games and Beta Testers that keep things
to themselves.

Have Fun

Robert "GT86" Platts
BlackHole MotorSports

Different opinions, to me not having the option to sit IN the car is
enough
to skip it...

l8er
ronny

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On Sun, 22 Mar 1998 23:42:31 -0800, "Robert Platts"

Trev

And plenty of people use the in-car view so they can play the game to
a higher limit of their ability. The fact that plenty of people use
the F10 view doesn't argue that the in-cockpit view should not be an
option anymore than the fact that plenty of people use Dvorak
keyboards; shouldn't QWERTY keyboards still be an option?

Anyone remember the fantastic Activision 2600 game by David Krane,
"Dragster"?

Now, that was a game we spent hours playing and didn't need a***pit
view. Of course, that was around 15 years ago, and I would have
expected the state of the art in drag racing "simulations" to have
improved in those intervening years...

---Jim

After I saw how they handled the X-car issue I opted not to buy the GAME -
infact i seem to recall erasing the demo after some 10 minutes of testing!
This time I didnt bother to d/l the demo ( dunno if they made one tho) nor
did i bother to read much about the GAME. To me Bethsoft or whatever they're
called, have showed us how little they really know about motorsports and
that they're not able to simulate it in any way.
For me its gonna take a VERY long time before i bother to d/l any stuff from
them - let alone buy anything they've made....

As they say... it takes a long time to establish a brand or company, but so
littlle to ruin it!

Edwin Solheim, Norway
ed_ on NROS

The Paddock: http://home.c2i.net/thepaddock
Cheek Junior Team: http://home.sol.no/~solhmrek

                          About DRAG RACE the GAME
                       Copyright 1996 by Rod Heilfron
                                Version 2.5
                         Distributed Exclusively by:
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 All Right! Enough with the tech changes. Now for the changes for the Racer:
  - The  main  screen  now  shows  330,  660 & 1000 foot times and speeds in
    addition to the 60 ft. and 1/4 mile that it showed before.
  - In  addition  to  Dial-In you can now set a simple Delay Box setting.
You
    can also adjust where  your car Stages by using up some of your Rollout.
    The new adjustments will help make bracket racing more realistic.
  - The traction of the surface of each lane can be set. This can be used to
    simulate oil spilled  on the lane or a freshly cleaned and coated track.
  - The static weight distribution of the car is now adjustable.
  - The height  of  the  center  of gravity  is adjustable. This affects the
    dynamic  weight  distribution ( weight transferred  from the front to
the
    rear)  during a race. This will probably cause some cars to get too much
    grip  and  will  require changes to tire compound, launch RPM and clutch
    settings  to  prevent  bogging the engine (and get them to run like they
    did in previous versions of the game. Sorry).
  - The number of drive wheels,  both front and rear can now be set. You can
    have a 4x4 truck or one with dual rear wheels.
  - Race data graphs are easier to read.
  - Horsepower and Torque graphs are easier to read.
  - The  computer's  shift time is now measured in seconds instead of just a
    counter.  This  adds  consistency  if  you  race  on  computers that are
    different in speed.
  - Decals  and  custom paint  jobs have been added to some  of the race car
    bodies.
  - And of course new bodies have been added.
****************************************************************************

......snip

  The  idea  for the game was inspired by Dragster, a game for the Atari
2600
by David Crane.  My  buddies and I  could  sit  for  hours  running  the
two
dragsters  against each  other  and trying to get them into the 5's. We
would
try  different grips on the joystick and techniques for shifting in an
effort
to gain a .01 of a second over our opponent.

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                         Enjoy,
                           Rod Heilfron

At least I didn't leave out the***pit view because I didn't think anyone
wanted one (I want it more than anyone), I left it out because I don't know
how to program it. :-)

Rod

And the blown engine represented by turning the engine upside down in
the car; great stuff!

I didn't realize it was Crane, not Krane. Thanks for the correction.

---Jim

Trev:

Trev, that is a silly statement.. Lots of people drive Nascar2 in F10 Mode
and love it..  Its like saying that a manufacture that doesnt use DIGITAL
POTS doesnt really make a steering system.  I tell you what the people that
bought the BURNOUT are really e***d about it..  It is a great pleasure
to drive!!!

Don Wilshe

Paul

Especially when you beta tested it :-)

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This is a good case of consider the source<g>! If you want Drag racing
wait til NDR is released, wont be long now :)!

Trev

Trips

"A kill has been recorded". Opps, wrong NG :-)

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