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RASCAR: Disappointment at 'Dega...

Ed Solhei

RASCAR: Disappointment at 'Dega...

by Ed Solhei » Mon, 29 Apr 2002 06:02:58

I dont know how the rest you folks feel, by I'm utterly disappointed in how
the Talladega race went...   I mean - it's a 70 laps race guys - and you
still manage to create havoc on lap 1!?!?

I know i'm goign to sound like an ass for saying this, but I'm also very
disappointed that we didnt restart...  must have been atleast 10 cars that
got damaged on that first incident...

Grandy asked why we should restart..... cannot understand why you didnt get
that Mike...
Just like you wanted to protect your lead - I wanted to have a shot at
actually finishing this race....

I've not had the chance to parteceipate in many RASCAR races... and would
love to finish one...  is that a thing of the past?

Hope Homestead went better though.

--
ed_
(/Disappointed)

Richard

RASCAR: Disappointment at 'Dega...

by Richard » Mon, 29 Apr 2002 06:32:36

Well Ed, we also had a crash at the restart before anybody even got to the
line.
I quit then.
Besides, my wheel was acting up and needed to be recalibrated in windows and
then the game. I was only getting about 95% throttle. I couldn't even keep
up in a draft.

ZZ

Mike Grand

RASCAR: Disappointment at 'Dega...

by Mike Grand » Mon, 29 Apr 2002 07:54:05

Not sure how the rest felt about it but you were the only one that felt we
should restart. It really didn't matter to me but I didn't know we restart
if someone wrecks. Were you not able to continue? Hell, I didn't want to
lead but if you're there you might as well. Turned out to be a pretty good
race for about 30 laps. (-:

--
Mike Grandy
www.precision-racing.com

Mitch_

RASCAR: Disappointment at 'Dega...

by Mitch_ » Mon, 29 Apr 2002 07:55:12

Although I do sympathize with your situation Ed, I'm one of those guys that
feels restarts are totally unfair in any race series.  Their are exeptions
for mass boots and the such.  Typically what will happen in a restart is
similar to what happened the first time only different cars involved.  Is
that fair?  It could end up in an endless loop.

I had a good time in the race even though it was darn ugly :)  Unfortunately
I discoed with 15 to go.

 I'm finally starting to get some feeling back in my ***cheeks <g>.

Mitch



Don Burnett

RASCAR: Disappointment at 'Dega...

by Don Burnett » Mon, 29 Apr 2002 08:07:03

You really can't start a policy of restarting like that, someone always ends
up losing out in the end, it is best just to take things as they come, some
days are good, and others will be bad. Just like real racing.
I hate to see anyone get involved in a wreck, especially on the first lap,
but you gotta just take whatever happens with a grain of salt and move on.
In N2002, just like N4, when you get fields of the size we had today, things
will happen, it's inevitable, especially when you have so many drivers that
aren't used to racing with each other yet. Heck, I am in a very good league
and we have been racing together for some time, but when the fields are
large things are going to happen, that's the trade-off for the great physics
model we have.
I had fun while I was there, don't know how it went after I left but we did
at least get some good green flag racing in.
Thanks for having me guys, and hopefully will be able to race more with ya
in the future..

Don Burnette


> Although I do sympathize with your situation Ed, I'm one of those guys
that
> feels restarts are totally unfair in any race series.  Their are exeptions
> for mass boots and the such.  Typically what will happen in a restart is
> similar to what happened the first time only different cars involved.  Is
> that fair?  It could end up in an endless loop.

> I had a good time in the race even though it was darn ugly :)
Unfortunately
> I discoed with 15 to go.

>  I'm finally starting to get some feeling back in my ***cheeks <g>.

> Mitch



> > Well Ed, we also had a crash at the restart before anybody even got to
the
> > line.
> > I quit then.
> > Besides, my wheel was acting up and needed to be recalibrated in windows
> and
> > then the game. I was only getting about 95% throttle. I couldn't even
keep
> > up in a draft.

> > ZZ

Harja

RASCAR: Disappointment at 'Dega...

by Harja » Mon, 29 Apr 2002 08:08:20

I had a good race, made some nice moves until the last lap when I totally
blew it and that wasn't the worst I took #328 along. What a disastrous
finish.

The thing was that about 8 laps before the end I was right behind Zugzug and
he forced me to go round the outside, I lost two spots*** to dry.
Another long yellow period came and so there was a one lap shootout. After
leading most laps and making some nice moves I kinda felt I deserved the
win. And that's never the state of mind to be in in such a situation. I knew
they were all going to stay on the left and instead of going around the
outside like earlier, I made a promise that I would follow every move to the
left with an even bigger move to the ledt. So I ended up down the apron in
t3 crashing into the side of #328 and loosing another 2 places.

My apologies #328.


> Not sure how the rest felt about it but you were the only one that felt we
> should restart. It really didn't matter to me but I didn't know we restart
> if someone wrecks. Were you not able to continue? Hell, I didn't want to
> lead but if you're there you might as well. Turned out to be a pretty good
> race for about 30 laps. (-:

> --
> Mike Grandy
> www.precision-racing.com


> > I dont know how the rest you folks feel, by I'm utterly disappointed in
> how
> > the Talladega race went...   I mean - it's a 70 laps race guys - and you
> > still manage to create havoc on lap 1!?!?

> > I know i'm goign to sound like an ass for saying this, but I'm also very
> > disappointed that we didnt restart...  must have been atleast 10 cars
that
> > got damaged on that first incident...

> > Grandy asked why we should restart..... cannot understand why you didnt
> get
> > that Mike...
> > Just like you wanted to protect your lead - I wanted to have a shot at
> > actually finishing this race....

> > I've not had the chance to parteceipate in many RASCAR races... and
would
> > love to finish one...  is that a thing of the past?

> > Hope Homestead went better though.

> > --
> > ed_
> > (/Disappointed)

ymenar

RASCAR: Disappointment at 'Dega...

by ymenar » Mon, 29 Apr 2002 08:12:54


> I know i'm goign to sound like an ass for saying this, but I'm also very
> disappointed that we didnt restart...  must have been atleast 10 cars that
> got damaged on that first incident...

Actually, it's a non-written law in online stockcar races.  It's sucks that
many cars were involved, but when a race has started, it has started.  If we
restart, then who said the same thing won't happen? ;(

You can still catch it, practice is still up at 19:12pm EST :)

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Ed Solhei

RASCAR: Disappointment at 'Dega...

by Ed Solhei » Mon, 29 Apr 2002 08:19:48

Forgive me for assuming this, but I thought these RASCAR races were about
having fun - not nessecarily (sp?) win at all cost...  ????

--
ed_



Goy Larse

RASCAR: Disappointment at 'Dega...

by Goy Larse » Mon, 29 Apr 2002 08:23:28

Sorry Ed, but I disagree with you on the restart, unless there's a
problem with the server or something, I'm against restarts

Having said that though, that was a pretty shitty race, it had
everything but long green runs :-), guys racing to the front from L1, no
discipline under yellow.....man, I think we even came to a halt in the
Tri Oval as went green once ?

Good thing I have a sense of humor :-), sorry to BFarmer for taking you
out late in the race, I was trying to get low to pit to serve a bogus BF
and was clearly not paying attention to my surroundings

Man, I was being so patient and all, just dodged wrecks and tried to
keep the car in piece, was in about 10th late in the race and then I got
that BF, was PO'ed and haven't raced online for a a while, paid the
price for that, too bad BFarmer did the same

It IS possible to have good racing at Dega guys, I know, I had at least
*one* back on TEN :-), but it takes patience

As for me, I need to brush up on some NASCAR rules

"You are NOT allowed to serve BF's during restarts" - gotcha
"You are NOT allowed to merge before T1, even under yellow" - gotcha

Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy

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"A man is only as old as the woman he feels"
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Ed Solhei

RASCAR: Disappointment at 'Dega...

by Ed Solhei » Mon, 29 Apr 2002 08:27:42

As you may know Mik, there's very little point in completeing a 70 lap race
at a Superspeedway - when your cars wrecked.

The extra drag will make it so slow so theres absolutly no point (unless
points are to be won) to continue. I see very little in lurking around the
track for over an hour - doing nothing!

As I've said before, Superspeedways is completely different ball-game...  at
most track you can get away with a pretty shabby car, but on a 'SS' it's
virtually impossible - unless the damage is very minor.

--
ed_



Goy Larse

RASCAR: Disappointment at 'Dega...

by Goy Larse » Mon, 29 Apr 2002 08:28:13

I totally forgot....

It was really great getting the chance to race with you guys, I won't be
a regular but I'll certainly try to make as many races as possible, even
though I'm not usually into this S&M thing :-)

Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy

"The Pits"    http://www.theuspits.com/

"A man is only as old as the woman he feels"
--Groucho Marx--

Damien Smit

RASCAR: Disappointment at 'Dega...

by Damien Smit » Mon, 29 Apr 2002 08:41:10

One problem that I have, more so in GPL, is hearing my own engine and tyres
at the start of a race.  With everyone else's engines revving like mad, I
often end up losing control because I can't hear what my car's doing.
Anyone else have this problem?  Any solutions?

--
Damien Smith

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F1 2001 rank: -5.658

Blak

RASCAR: Disappointment at 'Dega...

by Blak » Mon, 29 Apr 2002 08:48:33

????? Its has nothing to do with winning.......like one of the othr posts said, it will be an endless loop, and where do you stop?
when do you say ok we dont restart this one...If I get punted on lap one and am the only that wrecks you going to restart it for
me?? And before you say ya but your just one guy.. you are one guy that wanted a restart.....1, 5 10 its the same....take your
lumps, thats racing sometimes :(

| Forgive me for assuming this, but I thought these RASCAR races were about
| having fun - not nessecarily (sp?) win at all cost...  ????
|
| --
| ed_
|
|


| > Although I do sympathize with your situation Ed, I'm one of those guys
| that
| > feels restarts are totally unfair in any race series.  Their are exeptions
| > for mass boots and the such.  Typically what will happen in a restart is
| > similar to what happened the first time only different cars involved.  Is
| > that fair?  It could end up in an endless loop.
| >
| > I had a good time in the race even though it was darn ugly :)
| Unfortunately
| > I discoed with 15 to go.
| >
| >  I'm finally starting to get some feeling back in my ***cheeks <g>.
| >
| > Mitch
| >
| >
|
|
|

Mitch Alatorr

RASCAR: Disappointment at 'Dega...

by Mitch Alatorr » Mon, 29 Apr 2002 09:07:35

Maybe my post came across wrong Ed but I surely didn't say anything
about winning at any cost.  Matter of fact I didn't even consider the end of
the race when I replied, but rather the start of it :0)

This should be fun for all but as we all know s__t happens. From the
races Ive seen in RASCAR this race was the exeption not the rule. I would
bet homestead went much better than the dega race (I had to bail).

Mitch


> Forgive me for assuming this, but I thought these RASCAR races were
> about having fun - not nessecarily (sp?) win at all cost...  ????

> --
> ed_



>> Although I do sympathize with your situation Ed, I'm one of those guys
> that
>> feels restarts are totally unfair in any race series.  Their are
>> exeptions for mass boots and the such.  Typically what will happen in a
>> restart is similar to what happened the first time only different cars
>> involved.  Is that fair?  It could end up in an endless loop.

>> I had a good time in the race even though it was darn ugly :)
> Unfortunately
>> I discoed with 15 to go.

>>  I'm finally starting to get some feeling back in my ***cheeks <g>.

>> Mitch

Joachim Trens

RASCAR: Disappointment at 'Dega...

by Joachim Trens » Mon, 29 Apr 2002 12:23:03

Not sure about the restarting - it's a two-faced medal. A race is a race,
and if an incident occurs, that's racing. Even if it takes out half the
field.

Homestead didn't have any havoc, and I saw fast guys, good racing and
intelligent driving around me (Colin!). Unfortunately we had quite a few
yellows again. More than I was able to sit out at 2am, so I quit after
around 40 laps, wrote this... and went to bed :-)

Achim



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