> Lol, you should know. (-:
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> Lol, you should know. (-:
Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy
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> > Lol, you should know. (-:
> Ooops, got you mixed up with Tim Doyle....:-)
> Beers and cheers
> (uncle) Goy
> "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/
> "A man is only as old as the woman he feels"
> --Groucho Marx--
> You mean lil Abner. (-: Guess you'd have to know who he is.
Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy
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LMAO!
| How ever you race is fine with me. I think Tim can vouch for my reaction
| time, even for an old man I don't miss much there. I wasn't so much accusing
| you of jumping the start as I have never raced you that I know of and was
| just protecting my line in case you had that idea. You don't have to worry
| about getting my attention, I'm well aware of whats going on even 5 cars
| back. As far as intimidation, you're wating your time. (-:
|
| --
| Mike Grandy
| www.precision-racing.com
| >
| > I didn't get any run on you because of me slowing down and then
| > accelerating, really not. My reaction time was just a tiny bit better. And
| > like I said the only reason I put my car there was to get your attention
| and
| > try and influence your driving. But if you say that you must be single
| file,
| > then I won't do it again. I'm not out to break rules, I do like the old
| men
| > racing tricks of getting under your opponents skin. That to me, is a big
| > part of motor racing.
| >
| >
| > > Well, single file means single file and most times when someone
| positions
| > > themselves to the inside like that they are intending to try to get a
| run.
| > > You did get a bit of a run but I blocked the hole so it really didn't
| > > matter. I don't consider the run you got as jumping the start, but it
| was
| > > close. Last lap, I would almost expect it.
| > >
| > >
| > > --
| > > Mike Grandy
| > > www.precision-racing.com
| > > >
| > > > I think I need a clarification on the rules, because what I did
| > > positioning
| > > > my car on the low lane is that jumping the start? I was doing 70 all
| the
| > > > time waiting for the green flag and wouldn't have passed you before
| the
| > > > finish even if I had the chance. The reason I was driving low was just
| > to
| > > > show my present and hoping that I could affect you and the other guys
| in
| > > > front by doing that. Because I know the entire lap would be run low,
| and
| > I
| > > > hoped to create some confusion.
| > > >
| > > > On the first restart my reaction time was quite a bit better than the
| > guys
| > > > in front of me, I hadn't left a gap to get a run on the guys in front.
| I
| > > was
| > > > just quicker.
| > > >
| > > > About racing to the flag, just do it. It's tense and it creates a lot
| of
| > > > confusion when you don't do it. I really see no reason not to do it.
| > > >
| > > >
| > > >
| > > >
| > > > > I had plenty of fuel according to the fuel guage. Tires were a bit
| of
| > an
| > > > > issue since I had stopped earlier but car felt fine. On that last
| > > restart
| > > > I
| > > > > saw harjan was going to try to get a run and pass me low into one
| and
| > > I'm
| > > > > not a big fan of jumping the restarts so I just went low with him. I
| > > think
| > > > > that may have put you to the outside of him. It was pretty good
| racing
| > > up
| > > > > front but there are some thaat need to find a little patience and
| the
| > > > racing
| > > > > will be much better.
| > > > >
| > > > > --
| > > > > Mike Grandy
| > > > > www.precision-racing.com
| > > > > > Harjan, no apologies needed for the last lap deal. The last lap
| is
| > > the
| > > > > time
| > > > > > to let it all hang out.
| > > > > >
| > > > > > My anticipation for the ras event would be for everyone to draft
| and
| > > > > follow
| > > > > > in qual order except for mistakes until after the fuel interval.
| It
| > > > would
| > > > > > have been great if we could have run green until after the pit
| stop
| > > and
| > > > > then
| > > > > > the last bit of the race we could have raced hard. It did not
| > happen
| > > > > > anything like that. From lap 1 people were forcing passes and
| > racing
| > > > > crazy.
| > > > > > It looked to me like you got a jump on the field on the restart
| > after
| > > > the
| > > > > > first caution and you went high and passed or attempted to pass in
| a
| > > > > > dangerous manner. Then after getting behind me with that
| maneuver,
| > > you
| > > > > > passed me after the second yellow came out. This was the start of
| > my
| > > > > > confusion about passing under caution.
| > > > > >
| > > > > > I made my share of mistakes at 'dega too. I passed under caution
| > too
| > > > and
| > > > > > then saw the leaders slowing well before the s/f line so I slowed
| > too
| > > > but
| > > > > > did not give back the positions I gained. I also was involved in
| an
| > > > > > incident on the back stretch going 3 wide with a lapped car in the
| > > > middle.
| > > > > > My apologies for my transgressions.
| > > > > >
| > > > > > Congrats to Zugzug for*** on to win after the cautions.
| > Congrats
| > > > to
| > > > > > Grandy for second. I'm still not sure that early pit stop would
| have
| > > > given
| > > > > > you enough gas if it would have gone green the whole way? Didn't
| > you
| > > > need
| > > > > > 53 laps after your stop? I wish the 53 green flag laps would have
| > > > > happened
| > > > > > so you could have demonstrated the outcome. As it turned out,
| even
| > > the
| > > > > guys
| > > > > > that stopped real early (21+55=76)? had plenty of fuel because of
| > the
| > > > > > yellows?
| > > > > >
| > > > > > Sorry I had to bolt after the race, the kids had been begging for
| > > dinner
| > > > > > since 6:00. The race was longer that I wanted it to be.
| > > > > >
| > > > > > --
| > > > > > Robert Huggins
| > > > > >
| > > > > > >
| > > > > > > My apologies #328.
| > > > > > >
| > > > > >
| > > > > >
| > > > > >
| > > > > >
| > > > >
| > > > >
| > > >
| > > >
| > >
| > >
| >
| >
| >
| >
|
|
|
> --
> Mike Grandy
> www.precision-racing.com
> > > Lol, you should know. (-:
> > Ooops, got you mixed up with Tim Doyle....:-)
> > Beers and cheers
> > (uncle) Goy
> > "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/
> > "A man is only as old as the woman he feels"
> > --Groucho Marx--
Brian Oster
On Sun, 28 Apr 2002 21:59:38 -0600, "John Pancoast"
> In this case, the bf makes sense; you passed for position before the line,
>to the inside.
>-John
>> I don't think it would be that hard to program. If at the drop of the
>> green flag you are say in the 9th position, and you cross the line in
>> 9th position, it should not be a black flag. The way it is know if
>> someone pulls up beside you bore the start/finish you better make damn
>> sure they take your position or you risk a black flag if you were to
>> edge them out at the s/f.
>> On Sun, 28 Apr 2002 08:21:24 -0600, "John Pancoast"
>> > Well, fwiw, it'd be nigh impossible to program the code to recognize
>what
>> >was happening in a case like that, IMO.
>> > Does stink though.
>> >-John
>> >> This makes more sense, but its still a bug or more of a mistake,
>however
>> >you want to label it...
>> >> | I should add to this, that in the game's "mind",(and in reality),
>he
>> >had
>> >> | passed you for position already; he was in front of you. So, when
>you
>> >> | passed him, it was a pass to the inside, for position, before the
>line.
>> >> | Black flag.
>> >> |
>> >> | Hope this helps.
>> >> |
>> >> | -John
>> >> |
>> >> |
>> >> | > That's not a bug. You pass to the inside before the line, you
>get
>> >black
>> >> | > flagged, doesn't matter what position. You can pass all you want
>to
>> >the
>> >> | > outside before the line.
>> >> | > The manual says strange things will be taken into consideration,
>but
>> >I've
>> >> | > yet to see it work that way.
>> >> | >
>> >> | > -John
>> >> | >
>> >> | >
>> >> | > > report that..
>> >> | > >
>> >> | > >
>message
>> >> | > > | How did you get your BF? I got one the other night in a
>pick-up
>> >game
>> >> | > > | where a guy jumped the start and blew by me on the outside
>BEFORE
>> >the
>> >> | > > | start-finish, then BEFORE the start-finish he let up for some
>> >reason
>> >> | > > | and I passed him back on the inside and was given a black flag
>> >even
>> >> | > > | though I crossed the start-finish line in the same position I
>was
>> >in
>> >> | > > | under yellow. Definetly a bug in the game. Just wondering if
>the
>> >> | > > | same thing happend to you.
>> >> | > > |
>> >> | > > | Brian Oster
>> >> | > > | aka ZugZug1
>> >> | > > |
>> >> | > > |
>> >> | > > |
>> >> | > > | >
>> >> | > > | >
>> >> | > > | >>
>> >> | > > | >
>> >> | > > | >Sorry Ed, but I disagree with you on the restart, unless
>there's
>> >a
>> >> | > > | >problem with the server or something, I'm against restarts
>> >> | > > | >
>> >> | > > | >Having said that though, that was a pretty shitty race, it had
>> >> | > > | >everything but long green runs :-), guys racing to the front
>from
>> >L1,
>> >> | > no
>> >> | > > | >discipline under yellow.....man, I think we even came to a
>halt
>> >in
>> >> | the
>> >> | > > | >Tri Oval as went green once ?
>> >> | > > | >
>> >> | > > | >Good thing I have a sense of humor :-), sorry to BFarmer for
>> >taking
>> >> | you
>> >> | > > | >out late in the race, I was trying to get low to pit to serve
>a
>> >bogus
>> >> | > BF
>> >> | > > | >and was clearly not paying attention to my surroundings
>> >> | > > | >
>> >> | > > | >Man, I was being so patient and all, just dodged wrecks and
>tried
>> >to
>> >> | > > | >keep the car in piece, was in about 10th late in the race and
>> >then I
>> >> | > got
>> >> | > > | >that BF, was PO'ed and haven't raced online for a a while,
>paid
>> >the
>> >> | > > | >price for that, too bad BFarmer did the same
>> >> | > > | >
>> >> | > > | >It IS possible to have good racing at Dega guys, I know, I had
>at
>> >> | least
>> >> | > > | >*one* back on TEN :-), but it takes patience
>> >> | > > | >
>> >> | > > | >As for me, I need to brush up on some NASCAR rules
>> >> | > > | >
>> >> | > > | >"You are NOT allowed to serve BF's during restarts" - gotcha
>> >> | > > | >"You are NOT allowed to merge before T1, even under yellow" -
>> >gotcha
>> >> | > > | >
>> >> | > > | >
>> >> | > > | >Beers and cheers
>> >> | > > | >(uncle) Goy
>> >> | > > | >
>> >> | > > | >"The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/
>> >> | > > | >
>> >> | > > | >"A man is only as old as the woman he feels"
>> >> | > > | >--Groucho Marx--
>> >> | > > |
>> >> | > > | Brian Oster
>> >> | > > |
>> >> | > >
>> >> | > >
>> >> | >
>> >> | >
>> >> |
>> >> |
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That's how I got the flag at the Pocono race. Everybody in front stopped. :(
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