rec.autos.simulators

How well do you think Mr. Crammond's sim will run on your system?
Were you around for the original release of GP2?

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Frank, do you believe that any other F1 sim, other than GPL, is better?
If so, lets hear it. Please don't say GP2, because we will all know
you are not being very objective.

If you can't name a better modern F1 sim, then why shouldn't 'we'
all be e***d about it, and support the developers?

I like F1-2000 and I'll  buy the retail tomorrow, for $29.95.

I would like to hear your answers to these comments.

Thanks.

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Huh. That is not good. Usually the reccomended is what you can run with
smooth framerates.

game.

Sounds like ubisoft doesn't have much to fear either. What is with
the mirrors taking up 40%-50% of the framerate resources? That
doesn't sound good either.

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F1RS???

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Yes, THAT'S what a sphincter says . . .

The uninstall button...

What an absolute disgrace. Luckily I have managed to obtain a refund for
this from a retailer who doesn't normally do such things - they just
couldn't cope with my outrage at how bad I think this is.

On the box it states a recommended spec as PII 450 with 128MB RAM and an 8MB
Video Card. So how comes it runs abysmally on my PIII 550 128 MB RAM and
GeForce Annihilator Pro?

Rest easy Mr Crammond you have little to fear from this travesty of a game.

Please don't take this post as the last say.

I believe F1 2000 has it's flaws, but it is the best F1 sim to date...  but
you have to give it a chance..

A lot of fun and realistic..

James Pickard

It may be fun if you take out any disbelief that this is actually how a F1
car handles.  You can't powerslide&trailbrake in real-life, it's an
impossible thing that only a few have ever mastered in the history of modern
racing.  Everybody knows that, and it's imho a reason why a driver like Alex
Zanardi failed in F1 compared to the CART series or simply how the F1 cars
handled half a century ago.  If it's "that" realistic, then tell me why the
average driver can constantly trailbrake into the medium and slow corners,
then simply powerslide at almost full throttle out of those corners?

What about the incredibly bad track modeling?  How can you say it's
realistic when there is a major flaw like that?

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-- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
-- May the Downforce be with you...
-- http://www.WeRace.net
-- People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise
how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.

which is the reason why NFS PU isnt a realistic sim, the only thing holding
it back is the arcade like sweeping wiiide tracks.

To tell you the truth before the release I was really looking forward to this
Sim.  I am really disappointed on what a horrible piece of trash the developers
have created.  This thing will never be able to be patched.  Who in their mind
would spend money on something not even completed.  People here *** about a
warez version.  Thank god for warez or I would have been a sucker and paid for
this useless piece of software.

Im unclear about my position at the moment.  I made my mind about F1 2000
already, since it's now uninstalled after a full non-stop weekend of racing
it, tweaking the setups, and trying the most out of it.  Unless they work
heavily on it with patches (which I'll check in this NG to see the
progression), it won't take my time.  Maybe in the future, when the price
will be appropriate for it's value, I will.

In terms of gameplay depth, I would need to say GP2, even if it's obsolete
on many point.  But what other titles can give you almost a thousand tracks,
year-by-year full patch including probably the MOST accurate tracks in any
modern F1 simulator, cars, and also basic car differences (power, weight,
etc...).

F1RS and MGPRS2 have better stuff than it, I'll say.  I don't want to say
that they are much better titles, but at the price they are sold, I almost
suggest to get them instead.  I personally feel it gives a better impression
of how a modern post-Senna F1 car acts on the track.  You can't much
trail-brake or powerslide, which _IS_ accurate, even if overdone a little
with push understeer and so.

Everything else is irelevant, as they are all inferior to F1 2000.

Like I said in a previous post : "I would rather spend time on better
quality titles than owning a bad, even if the "best of the bad" Formula 1
title."

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-- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
-- May the Downforce be with you...
-- http://www.WeRace.net
-- People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise
how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.

I like it... I dont worry a lot about how realistic it is compared to the
real thing.... using a puter is never going to be "just like the real thing"
anyway... The main thing for me is fun, and I`m having more fun with F1-2000
than I ever had with GP2 and F1RS...  For some reason I really enjoy driving
the car... is that because it`s kinda easy to drive compared to other sim`s"
? ...maybe... I will admit that  this is the first F1 sim I`ve used where I
truly feel I could  do a full length simulated race at a good pace and not
find a way to crash my brains out before it ends. Another thing I like is
that it seems that I have much more "feel" for what the car is doing in
F1-2000 compared to F1RS,GP2, CPR and ICR2... It`s like I`m getting more
real life seat of the pants  "driving sensations" with this sim....even if
they are not totaly correct to a real F1 car... I find they add a lot to the
fun of using this sim compared to others I`ve spent time with. The other
thing I love about F1-2000 is the TCP\IP support... it works great online
and I just cant get enough of it. The main prob I have with F1-2000 is the
AI.... I cant believe it will be this bad in the final version on store
shelves ... can it be ?..... it`s so bad that it`s almost a joke.....no it
is a joke !!!...and it`s actually pretty funny to watch..... If EA fixes the
AI I will buy this sim no questions asked. True.... it`s also a system
hog...but so was GP2 when it first came out (even more so if you ask me).

Anyone doing laps at Brazil ? ....a 1:16.526 is my best using 2 clicks less
front and rear wing from the default setup. I hear that someone got a 1:14.9
and I was just wondering what others are getting..... maybe post some setup
tips and stuff like that. Also if anyone would like to race Brazil online
respond to this thread.... maybe we can find a way to get some races going
:)

All the best,
Lorne

This is exactly what I mean, Frankie - it can't be both "impossible" and
something that "only a few have mastered" -- imposible is impossible,
something that "a few have mastered" is by definition obviously
possible. This isn't just bad English, it's poor thinking. To make the
steaming pile of BS smell even worse, you say things like this, and then
put the stamp of irrefutability (you think) on such nonsense statements
by intoning "Everybody knows that." Well, I'm included in "everybody,"
and I can assure you that not only do I NOT know that, I utterly reject
it out of hand as a logical impossibility. I have a word you might want
to look up: hubris. CHeck it out, think about it for a couple weeks, and
see if it doesn't fit you very well.

Sheesh

BB

ahem.

Utter nonsense.  You're lifting Frank's words WAY out of context, setting
them in a little corner and pouncing on them like a Krazy Kat.  Surely, if
you're as well-educated as your previous posts have indicated, you'd know
that meaning is never simply reliant on a transparent relationship between
sign and referent.  "Impossible," in this case, can mean something quite
different from "un-doable."  It can mean "really unrealistic" for instance.

I think we ALL could do with a bit of dictionary browsing in the "H-U" area.
Yourself (and even my own cheery self) included.

--DK

that only a few have ever mastered in the history of modern racing.
Everybody knows that

You even lower the wings from the default on a twisty track like
Brazil? Well, there goes my setup knowledge :)
I practiced on Brazil for about an hour, drove 1:24 laps (I'm good, I
know :) , then I raised my wings, and after a little bit of practice I
drove 1:17 laps.
How do you keep the car on the road at those last twisty corners with
your wings so low?

Andre