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by **Tim** » Mon, 28 Jul 2003 12:57:15

Or what lol, what the hell you gonna do about it? lolol mr nospam

FYI, rocky ... The chat I sent about jumping was not for anyone in particular.
If it was for anyone it would've been for the people up front. I didn't know if
they were jumping or not. I didn't really care actually. I just took it upon
myself to mention it. Sue me.

But if your feeling guilty about jumping on the restart, the replay will show
it. The fact that you fail to understand any of what happened today just proves
your lack of confidence in your own skills since the only way you could've out
shifted me was if I was actually letting up for traffic. SO you were either
jumping, or you were wreckless, take your pick.

The reason I moved over, certainly in a more safe way than you ever could've,
was because traffic ahead was already moving around. Since I got to them before
you did, it should have been obvious why I moved over but you chose instead to
think someone wanted to *** your pretty little ass lol.

But noooo, you weren't going to put up with that huh.

So you slammed it into T1, risking everyone else, beside us, behind us, just
cause your lame ass can't grasp squat.

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by **frederickso** » Mon, 28 Jul 2003 13:32:25

hi.

i was mad cause my dad decided to pick a fight with me while i was racing.
so im sorry for losing it. but i really wanted to win this one i was pretty
fast :-(

by **Eldre** » Mon, 28 Jul 2003 13:31:46

>David and I were not in last place, more than half the field is behind us.
>Someone is on the outside of me, just starting to back
>off I believe.

Correct. That was me on the outside. We restarted in positions 7,8,9.

Eldred
p.s. I wish both of you guys would just chill a bit, though...
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by **Eldre** » Mon, 28 Jul 2003 13:31:46

>Open mouth, insert foot. Yeah, I went back and watched it again. You were
>both in front of me on the restart. I still say you both went in way too
>hot fighting for position in the first corner of a restart. It was the
>restart right after this one that Tim, I believe missed a shift and lost it
>going into the corner hot on a restart. Engine smoke started after the tire
>smoke did.

The lap 20 'incident' that Tim refers to involved me. I was in 7th ahead of
Tim, who was ahead of David. They both get a good run down the straight. Tim
takes the inside and slows a bit to avoid hitting me in the turn. David sees a
chance to take advantage of Tim's lost momentum and goes farther inside. When
I heard "3-wide", I hit the brakes. 2 spots lost. David drifts high, Tim
dives back inside. They make contact, get sideways, but don't crash. I lock
up trying to keep from punting Tim. 3 MORE cars go by on the inside, and the
lost momentum eventually costs me a couple more spots.
Meanwhile someone farther ahead wrecks, and we're back under yellow again.
What I don't understand is how the hell people can go so much faster than me on
the restarts. We all have the same gearing, so that's not it. I hit the gas
as soon as we get green, but I lost spots on damn near every restart. People
are 5-7 mph faster than me at the line, and that just doesn't make any sense.
I don't get it...

Eldred
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by **J Guil** » Mon, 28 Jul 2003 13:51:09

Or at least more and more like the leagues they wanted to get out of in the
first place. I think I may try to join but I'd like to race for fun, not
stress:) I can be cussed, accused, tried, and hung on Sierra anytime. All
this drama is nice free entertainment for us lurkers though. >

by **Tim** » Mon, 28 Jul 2003 14:26:49

Is he bigger than you? If not he owes you one, cause you were gonna be tough to
beat.
If he is bigger than you wait till he's asleep :)

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by **Ed Solhei** » Mon, 28 Jul 2003 14:29:11

"EldredP" said:

Eldred,

Are you sure you're getting full power from your pots?
Try to calibrate the pedals again - but this time only allpy 95-98% of
throttle - leaving a tiny bit of travel, so when you 'boot it' - you can be
sure you get full power.

Mis-timeing the gearshifts can also cost you time/speed.. what rpm do you
usually shift at?

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by **Tim** » Mon, 28 Jul 2003 14:24:58

Are you using buttons on the wheel, or a shifter - Buttons are quicker.
Do you use a clutch - Manual clutch is for really really advanced drivers, turn
it on auto.
Do you lift slightly off the gas when shifting - Depends on the gear ratio and
the track; Pocono it should not be a problem to keep it floored.
Do you let the rpms wind out to as far as you can without blowing the engine
before shifting -
Only practice will tell you where that point is, but it should be well up the
scale.
Do you steer at all while going thru the gears - Don't.

Actually Pocono is a great track to practice changing gears ... If you want ...

Run an offline race (load the fast setup)
Set # of AI to 1, 99%
Pace Lap OFF
Full damage ON
Skip qualifying, go right to race.
Right at the turn, when your letting off the gas, ESC, and restart race without
going back to menu.

With practice eventually you should be able to beat him to the turn (your on the
outside). I used to sprint swimming in college, no false start rule. So
listening for Any sound and it jolting me is/was kinda habitual for awhile :)

Listen for the spotter, but once your comfortable with it, also listen for the
radio click. That sometimes goes off like a milisecond before he yells green.
Pace lap off, starts you in T3 and use damage off to see how much you can press
it before the engine blows.

Also helps practicing avoiding a BF for JUMPING THE START :)))))

Sorry, could not resist that last one :)

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by **Bruce Kennewel** » Mon, 28 Jul 2003 14:44:23

You both come across like pre-schoolers having temper tantrums.
Grow up, for God's sake.

Bruce.

did........ad nauseam.

by **Andrew MacPhers** » Mon, 28 Jul 2003 16:16:00

> All this drama is nice free entertainment
> for us lurkers though.

:-) Wouldn't want to race with 'em for fear of making a mistake, but
they're fun to watch!

Andrew McP

by **Jan Verschuere** » Mon, 28 Jul 2003 18:38:05

Summary of yellow flag statistics:
Number of yellows: 11
Number of yellow flag laps: 41
Percentage of racelaps run under yellow: 50.62
Total time run under yellow: 92m26.532s
Percentage of racetime run under yellow: 70.61

The incident that is being "discussed" here didn't even cause a yellow, so
you can see there were at least 11 other mistakes made that didn't cause
tempers to flare.

Well, sort of, I was non-plussed at letting a lead lap car by only to have
him trip me up in the next turn, but I didn't really cut loose. <g>

There's no need to "fear" racing in RASCAR because you might make a mistake,
honestly, but nobody's going to hold your hand and kiss it better either.
You might have to bite your tongue or take your lumps at some point.

Jan.
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by **Andrew MacPhers** » Mon, 28 Jul 2003 19:32:00

> There's no need to "fear" racing in RASCAR because you
> might make a mistake
> Percentage of racetime run under yellow: 70.61

I see you're right! Looks like me and my "do I turn right now?" skills
would fit in nicely :-)

To be serious though, I have nowhere near enough laps in N2003 to risk
messing up anything other than the most low-key of pickup races. I
applaud your collective efforts to improve RASCAR standards though.

Andrew McP

by **McWho** » Mon, 28 Jul 2003 20:05:30

I'm right there with ya. Did you catch my comment on how slow my car
seemed?
Sean # 12

> >Open mouth, insert foot. <snip>
> The lap 20 'incident' that Tim refers to involved me. <snip>.
> Meanwhile someone farther ahead wrecks, and we're back under yellow again.
> What I don't understand is how the hell people can go so much faster than
me on
> the restarts. We all have the same gearing, so that's not it. I hit the
gas
> as soon as we get green, but I lost spots on damn near every restart.
People
> are 5-7 mph faster than me at the line, and that just doesn't make any
sense.
> I don't get it...

> Eldred
> --

I'm right there with ya. Did you catch my comment on how slow my car
seemed? In my case it probably has some to do with my experience, but I
don't understand how on a drag race to the flag I can be slower when we all
have the same setup. Does car body make a difference? Is the 2k3 model
supposed to be aero similar as the real cup cars are?
If a different manufacturer is faster in the game model, do I have the
ability to change to that make?

Sean # 12

by **John Simmon** » Mon, 28 Jul 2003 20:37:10

You didn't block anyone that I could see. It looked to me like you
were looking for racing space.

by **John Simmon** » Mon, 28 Jul 2003 20:41:54

Dave, my situation was (admittedly) a little different. I was using
auto trans, so I didn't have the benefit of running 2nd gear up as
high as it would go, thus leaving me at a disadvantage on restarts
because everyone else got more speed more quickly (unless they were
missing a gear).

I stayed high because the low line was the preferred one for getting
through turn 1 and also because people weren't getting so much of a
run on me tht I needed to let them pass me on the outside. I also
didn't have anyone on the outside keeping me from giving you room.

I'm sure that once you guys calm down, you'll both realize that you
were each a little more aggressive on the restart than you should
have been and it was one of them racin' deals.