rec.autos.simulators

by **Don Burnett** » Sun, 16 Jul 2006 22:36:13

After getting NR 2003 up and running successfully, I installed the software
for my MS Sidewinder FF usb wheel.

I installed the software for the wheel from the cd that came with it. It is
version 4, for the usb wheel. I believe this was the
latest software produced for this wheel? I searched the MS website , and did
not find any later drivers, realizing of course, support
is really not offered by MS anymore for this wheel.

The problem I am having, when I install on my XP Pro installation, I get a
warning message that it may not function properly, as it recognizes my
system as a windows NT/2000 installation.
It works ok, with the exception, of the recorder portion of the software. If
I try and launch the recorder, it closes with an
error message , something about a dll file.

Anyone know, of any later software that was offered for this wheel for
Windows XP, that might still be available somewhere? Or a workaround for
this issue?

I also have the original red Momo I could install and use, assuming it would
work ok in XP, however, for NR2003 I always preferred the MS wheel, mainly
for the increased pedal throw over the Momo.

Any help would be appreciated...

Thanks,

Don Burnette

by **Ed Medli** » Sun, 16 Jul 2006 23:49:22

XP has native support for the wheel. I have never installed any drivers for
it since ME. The only difference I have seen is that there is not seperate
brake and accellerator axis' anymore. I am fairly sure it had that option
before. Try unplugging the wheel, uninstall the drivers and plug the wheel
in and let it autodetect. Make sure you have XPSP2 installed too. I have the
MS FF USB and a black Momo and actually prefer the Momo. I wish I could
somehow use the MS pedals as they are almost bulletproof where the Momo
pedals fail frequently.

Ed

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by **Don Burnett** » Sun, 16 Jul 2006 23:55:13

>> After getting NR 2003 up and running successfully, I installed the
>> software for my MS Sidewinder FF usb wheel.

>> I installed the software for the wheel from the cd that came with it. It
>> is version 4, for the usb wheel. I believe this was the
>> latest software produced for this wheel? I searched the MS website , and
>> did not find any later drivers, realizing of course, support
>> is really not offered by MS anymore for this wheel.

>> The problem I am having, when I install on my XP Pro installation, I get
>> a warning message that it may not function properly, as it recognizes my
>> system as a windows NT/2000 installation.
>> It works ok, with the exception, of the recorder portion of the software.
>> If I try and launch the recorder, it closes with an
>> error message , something about a dll file.

>> Anyone know, of any later software that was offered for this wheel for
>> Windows XP, that might still be available somewhere? Or a workaround for
>> this issue?

>> I also have the original red Momo I could install and use, assuming it
>> would work ok in XP, however, for NR2003 I always preferred the MS wheel,
>> mainly for the increased pedal throw over the Momo.

>> Any help would be appreciated...

>> Thanks,

>> Don Burnette

> XP has native support for the wheel. I have never installed any drivers
> for it since ME. The only difference I have seen is that there is not
> seperate brake and accellerator axis' anymore. I am fairly sure it had
> that option before. Try unplugging the wheel, uninstall the drivers and
> plug the wheel in and let it autodetect. Make sure you have XPSP2
> installed too. I have the MS FF USB and a black Momo and actually prefer
> the Momo. I wish I could somehow use the MS pedals as they are almost
> bulletproof where the Momo pedals fail frequently.

> Ed

Hmm, I could try that, however, I do have the option of setting separate
brake and accelerator
axis, which I prefer in NR 2003 , I would hate to lose that function...

Don Burnette

by **Gary** » Mon, 17 Jul 2006 00:21:43

Don - I have the same setup and Ver. 4.0 works fine here. When you go
into game Controllers and (with Sidewinder highlighted) you click
"Properties", does the MS Control Panel come up? Have you tried
uninstalling/reinstalling it?

It's possible you have a corrupt CD. What is the exact error message?
I can copy/mail you the CD or email you the missing DLL file (and tell
you where it goes)..

Gary

>>> After getting NR 2003 up and running successfully, I installed the
>>> software for my MS Sidewinder FF usb wheel.

>>> I installed the software for the wheel from the cd that came with it. It
>>> is version 4, for the usb wheel. I believe this was the
>>> latest software produced for this wheel? I searched the MS website , and
>>> did not find any later drivers, realizing of course, support
>>> is really not offered by MS anymore for this wheel.

>>> The problem I am having, when I install on my XP Pro installation, I get
>>> a warning message that it may not function properly, as it recognizes my
>>> system as a windows NT/2000 installation.
>>> It works ok, with the exception, of the recorder portion of the software.
>>> If I try and launch the recorder, it closes with an
>>> error message , something about a dll file.

>>> Anyone know, of any later software that was offered for this wheel for
>>> Windows XP, that might still be available somewhere? Or a workaround for
>>> this issue?

>>> I also have the original red Momo I could install and use, assuming it
>>> would work ok in XP, however, for NR2003 I always preferred the MS wheel,
>>> mainly for the increased pedal throw over the Momo.

>>> Any help would be appreciated...

>>> Thanks,

>>> Don Burnette

by **Don Burnett** » Mon, 17 Jul 2006 01:07:17

Yes, the MS control panel comes up.
When I click on the recorder tab, I get the below error message:
" Runtime Error! - Program C: windows\system32\rundll32exe"
"This application has requested the runtime to terminate in an unusual way.
Please contact the application's support team for more information."

The recorder tab, is the only tab that does not work and gives me this error
message.

--
Don Burnette

> Don - I have the same setup and Ver. 4.0 works fine here. When you go
> into game Controllers and (with Sidewinder highlighted) you click
> "Properties", does the MS Control Panel come up? Have you tried
> uninstalling/reinstalling it?

> It's possible you have a corrupt CD. What is the exact error message?
> I can copy/mail you the CD or email you the missing DLL file (and tell
> you where it goes)..

> Gary

>>On Sat, 15 Jul 2006 09:55:13 -0500, "Don Burnette"

>>>> After getting NR 2003 up and running successfully, I installed the
>>>> software for my MS Sidewinder FF usb wheel.

>>>> I installed the software for the wheel from the cd that came with it.
>>>> It
>>>> is version 4, for the usb wheel. I believe this was the
>>>> latest software produced for this wheel? I searched the MS website ,
>>>> and
>>>> did not find any later drivers, realizing of course, support
>>>> is really not offered by MS anymore for this wheel.

>>>> The problem I am having, when I install on my XP Pro installation, I
>>>> get
>>>> a warning message that it may not function properly, as it recognizes
>>>> my
>>>> system as a windows NT/2000 installation.
>>>> It works ok, with the exception, of the recorder portion of the
>>>> software.
>>>> If I try and launch the recorder, it closes with an
>>>> error message , something about a dll file.

>>>> Anyone know, of any later software that was offered for this wheel for
>>>> Windows XP, that might still be available somewhere? Or a workaround
>>>> for
>>>> this issue?

>>>> I also have the original red Momo I could install and use, assuming it
>>>> would work ok in XP, however, for NR2003 I always preferred the MS
>>>> wheel,
>>>> mainly for the increased pedal throw over the Momo.

>>>> Any help would be appreciated...

>>>> Thanks,

>>>> Don Burnette

by **Gary** » Mon, 17 Jul 2006 01:57:47

A couple things to try. Uninstall/Reinstall, which I would bet you
have done. Are you running it as Administrator? Are you dble-clking it
on the taskbar or going into it from "Game Controllers" in control
panel. I see when dble-clking SW Control it has to access
rundll32.exe (and it does require privlidges) to open GC, going
directly into GC doesn't cause the same calls. I create a shortcut to
GC on my desktop to make it easier.. not sure if this is of any help
but we can try!

G

>Yes, the MS control panel comes up.
>When I click on the recorder tab, I get the below error message:
>" Runtime Error! - Program C: windows\system32\rundll32exe"
>"This application has requested the runtime to terminate in an unusual way.
>Please contact the application's support team for more information."

>The recorder tab, is the only tab that does not work and gives me this error
>message.

by **Don Burnett** » Mon, 17 Jul 2006 02:20:04

Yes, I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling with same result. Yes, I am
running as administrator.

I have been accessing it , by double clicking on the icon on the taskbar,
just tried it by going through game controllers in control panel, still get
the same error message when trying to access the recorder tab...

It was worth a shot anyway, thanks for trying!

--
Don Burnette

>A couple things to try. Uninstall/Reinstall, which I would bet you
> have done. Are you running it as Administrator? Are you dble-clking it
> on the taskbar or going into it from "Game Controllers" in control
> panel. I see when dble-clking SW Control it has to access
> rundll32.exe (and it does require privlidges) to open GC, going
> directly into GC doesn't cause the same calls. I create a shortcut to
> GC on my desktop to make it easier.. not sure if this is of any help
> but we can try!

> G

>>On Sat, 15 Jul 2006 11:07:17 -0500, "Don Burnette"

>>Yes, the MS control panel comes up.
>>When I click on the recorder tab, I get the below error message:
>>" Runtime Error! - Program C: windows\system32\rundll32exe"
>>"This application has requested the runtime to terminate in an unusual
>>way.
>>Please contact the application's support team for more information."

>>The recorder tab, is the only tab that does not work and gives me this
>>error
>>message.

by **Gary** » Mon, 17 Jul 2006 08:24:18

Try deleting (through Add/Remove programs) and then manually delete
the C:\Program Files\Microsoft Hardware\Game Controllers folder and
all below it. Let me know it Add/Remove deletes them for you.

Then reinstall and see what what happens.

Gary

>Yes, I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling with same result. Yes, I am
>running as administrator.

>I have been accessing it , by double clicking on the icon on the taskbar,
>just tried it by going through game controllers in control panel, still get
>the same error message when trying to access the recorder tab...

>It was worth a shot anyway, thanks for trying!

by **Gary** » Mon, 17 Jul 2006 08:25:32

>Try deleting (through Add/Remove programs) and then manually delete
>the C:\Program Files\Microsoft Hardware\Game Controllers folder and
>all below it. Let me know it Add/Remove deletes them for you.

That's IF Add/Remove has already deleted it, sorry...

>Then reinstall and see what what happens.

>Gary

>>Yes, I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling with same result. Yes, I am
>>running as administrator.

>>I have been accessing it , by double clicking on the icon on the taskbar,
>>just tried it by going through game controllers in control panel, still get
>>the same error message when trying to access the recorder tab...

>>It was worth a shot anyway, thanks for trying!

by **Don Burnett** » Mon, 17 Jul 2006 22:51:34

Ok, I tried deleting through add/remove, selected to delete all files, and
it did delete the Microsoft Hardware\Game Controllers folder, reinstalled,
and still get same results.

Strange,

Don

> Try deleting (through Add/Remove programs) and then manually delete
> the C:\Program Files\Microsoft Hardware\Game Controllers folder and
> all below it. Let me know it Add/Remove deletes them for you.

> Then reinstall and see what what happens.

> Gary

>>On Sat, 15 Jul 2006 12:20:04 -0500, "Don Burnette"

>>Yes, I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling with same result. Yes, I
>>am
>>running as administrator.

>>I have been accessing it , by double clicking on the icon on the taskbar,
>>just tried it by going through game controllers in control panel, still
>>get
>>the same error message when trying to access the recorder tab...

>>It was worth a shot anyway, thanks for trying!

by **Gary** » Tue, 18 Jul 2006 00:41:15

Don -

I created an ISO (CD Copy) of the MS disk and will make it available
for download if you want to try it. Just burn it to a new CD and do
another uninstall/reinstall to rule out your CD being at fault. Is
your email correct if "clothes" is removed? I'll send you the link..

Gary

>Ok, I tried deleting through add/remove, selected to delete all files, and
>it did delete the Microsoft Hardware\Game Controllers folder, reinstalled,
>and still get same results.

>Strange,

>Don

>> Try deleting (through Add/Remove programs) and then manually delete
>> the C:\Program Files\Microsoft Hardware\Game Controllers folder and
>> all below it. Let me know it Add/Remove deletes them for you.

>> Then reinstall and see what what happens.

>> Gary

>>>On Sat, 15 Jul 2006 12:20:04 -0500, "Don Burnette"

>>>Yes, I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling with same result. Yes, I
>>>am
>>>running as administrator.

>>>I have been accessing it , by double clicking on the icon on the taskbar,
>>>just tried it by going through game controllers in control panel, still
>>>get
>>>the same error message when trying to access the recorder tab...

>>>It was worth a shot anyway, thanks for trying!

by **Don Burnett** » Tue, 18 Jul 2006 21:05:49

Hey Gary,

Yes, you got my email correct!

I am downloading it now, will try in a few minutes and advise.

Many thanks!

--
Don

> Don -

> I created an ISO (CD Copy) of the MS disk and will make it available
> for download if you want to try it. Just burn it to a new CD and do
> another uninstall/reinstall to rule out your CD being at fault. Is
> your email correct if "clothes" is removed? I'll send you the link..

> Gary

>>On Sun, 16 Jul 2006 08:51:34 -0500, "Don Burnette"

>>Ok, I tried deleting through add/remove, selected to delete all files, and
>>it did delete the Microsoft Hardware\Game Controllers folder, reinstalled,
>>and still get same results.

>>Strange,

>>Don

>>> Try deleting (through Add/Remove programs) and then manually delete
>>> the C:\Program Files\Microsoft Hardware\Game Controllers folder and
>>> all below it. Let me know it Add/Remove deletes them for you.

>>> Then reinstall and see what what happens.

>>> Gary

>>>>On Sat, 15 Jul 2006 12:20:04 -0500, "Don Burnette"

>>>>Yes, I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling with same result. Yes, I
>>>>am
>>>>running as administrator.

>>>>I have been accessing it , by double clicking on the icon on the
>>>>taskbar,
>>>>just tried it by going through game controllers in control panel, still
>>>>get
>>>>the same error message when trying to access the recorder tab...

>>>>It was worth a shot anyway, thanks for trying!

by **Don Burnett** » Tue, 18 Jul 2006 21:27:19

Ok, downloaded and burned to cd, installed from the newly created
installation cd, still having same problem.

Thanks for trying!

--
Don

> Don -

> I created an ISO (CD Copy) of the MS disk and will make it available
> for download if you want to try it. Just burn it to a new CD and do
> another uninstall/reinstall to rule out your CD being at fault. Is
> your email correct if "clothes" is removed? I'll send you the link..

> Gary

>>On Sun, 16 Jul 2006 08:51:34 -0500, "Don Burnette"

>>Ok, I tried deleting through add/remove, selected to delete all files, and
>>it did delete the Microsoft Hardware\Game Controllers folder, reinstalled,
>>and still get same results.

>>Strange,

>>Don

>>> Try deleting (through Add/Remove programs) and then manually delete
>>> the C:\Program Files\Microsoft Hardware\Game Controllers folder and
>>> all below it. Let me know it Add/Remove deletes them for you.

>>> Then reinstall and see what what happens.

>>> Gary

>>>>On Sat, 15 Jul 2006 12:20:04 -0500, "Don Burnette"

>>>>Yes, I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling with same result. Yes, I
>>>>am
>>>>running as administrator.

>>>>I have been accessing it , by double clicking on the icon on the
>>>>taskbar,
>>>>just tried it by going through game controllers in control panel, still
>>>>get
>>>>the same error message when trying to access the recorder tab...

>>>>It was worth a shot anyway, thanks for trying!

by **Larr** » Tue, 18 Jul 2006 22:08:54

Yep. Common problem, no fix.

The 4.0 software was the initial and only software MS ever released. It was
never updated and never will be.

Somewhere along the line a particular XP update breaks the Macro function.
I know of no way to repair it.

Bear in mind this is the same software MS granted HWQL certification to for
XP, and they didn't even bother to remove the incompatibility warning during
installation. Shows how reliable the HWQL certification really is, or how
much you can get away with if you own the certification :)

I know your problem well. I just don't believe there is a fix or ever will
be.

-Larry

by **Larr** » Tue, 18 Jul 2006 22:10:26

It's not his CD. A lot of people have had this issue.

-Larry

> Don -

> I created an ISO (CD Copy) of the MS disk and will make it available
> for download if you want to try it. Just burn it to a new CD and do
> another uninstall/reinstall to rule out your CD being at fault. Is
> your email correct if "clothes" is removed? I'll send you the link..

> Gary

>>On Sun, 16 Jul 2006 08:51:34 -0500, "Don Burnette"

>>Ok, I tried deleting through add/remove, selected to delete all files, and
>>it did delete the Microsoft Hardware\Game Controllers folder, reinstalled,
>>and still get same results.

>>Strange,

>>Don

>>> Try deleting (through Add/Remove programs) and then manually delete
>>> the C:\Program Files\Microsoft Hardware\Game Controllers folder and
>>> all below it. Let me know it Add/Remove deletes them for you.

>>> Then reinstall and see what what happens.

>>> Gary

>>>>On Sat, 15 Jul 2006 12:20:04 -0500, "Don Burnette"

>>>>Yes, I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling with same result. Yes, I
>>>>am
>>>>running as administrator.

>>>>I have been accessing it , by double clicking on the icon on the
>>>>taskbar,
>>>>just tried it by going through game controllers in control panel, still
>>>>get
>>>>the same error message when trying to access the recorder tab...

>>>>It was worth a shot anyway, thanks for trying!

rec.autos.simulators

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