with no issues) there must be a common denominator to the problem,
just need to find out what it is..
G
>It's not his CD. A lot of people have had this issue.
>-Larry
G
>-Larry
Ed
Yeah, I had gotten away from sim racing for a least a couple of years, been
mainly flight simming.
Decided I finally wanted to reinstall some racing sims on my new machine,
NR2003 being the first as Nascar has always been my favorite. Mainly for
offline racing now though.
I want to also reinstall EA's F1CS, and possibly GPL also, and then get
R-Factor and/or GTL.
I suppose I could try intalling the original Logitech Momo, but I really
preferred this MS wheel, especially for NR2003. I probably don't have to
have use of the recorder, just irritating that it does not work.
I used to have a TSW2, however sold it on Ebay after moving to FF.
I am having some stability issues, my machine is locking up more often than
not when exiting NR2003, but, I have been
getting some random lockups when exiting other games as well, and at other
times alos, think I am going to try a new power supply to rule that out.
Thanks,
Don
-Larry
> G
>>It's not his CD. A lot of people have had this issue.
>>-Larry
Yes, mine gave same warning, I said install it anyway, AND I let it install
the "profiles" from the cd, the profiles included one pretty basic GPL which
I have modified a bit and use for all games, as I hate forgetting to change
the profile when switching games I play... (gpl, nascar, GTlegends etc..)
but I am finding I rfactor is best to build your own in a way although I
havent run it for quite a while. and that is done with the part of the MS
sofware that apparently is dead to you at this time (you assign what
keystroke is "emulated" when you press which button).
Maybe, you might reinstall, MAKE SURE the wheel is unplugged until the
Sidewinder install wants it plugged in. Or maybe your missing the VBruntime
libraries or something (which I had installed usually all the time because
of an app I have, I cant think of what else is going wrong, maybe shutoff
the XP firewall until installed?
drop me an email stingre via yahoo. (yeah I meant to spell it that way that
is correct).
Don Burnette enlightened us with:
>>> After getting NR 2003 up and running successfully, I installed the
>>> software for my MS Sidewinder FF usb wheel.
>>> I installed the software for the wheel from the cd that came with
>>> it. It is version 4, for the usb wheel. I believe this was the
>>> latest software produced for this wheel? I searched the MS website
>>> , and did not find any later drivers, realizing of course, support
>>> is really not offered by MS anymore for this wheel.
>>> The problem I am having, when I install on my XP Pro installation,
>>> I get a warning message that it may not function properly, as it
>>> recognizes my system as a windows NT/2000 installation.
>>> It works ok, with the exception, of the recorder portion of the
>>> software. If I try and launch the recorder, it closes with an
>>> error message , something about a dll file.
>>> Anyone know, of any later software that was offered for this wheel
>>> for Windows XP, that might still be available somewhere? Or a
>>> workaround for this issue?
>>> I also have the original red Momo I could install and use, assuming
>>> it would work ok in XP, however, for NR2003 I always preferred the
>>> MS wheel, mainly for the increased pedal throw over the Momo.
>>> Any help would be appreciated...
>>> Thanks,
>>> Don Burnette
>> XP has native support for the wheel. I have never installed any
>> drivers for it since ME. The only difference I have seen is that
>> there is not seperate brake and accellerator axis' anymore. I am
>> fairly sure it had that option before. Try unplugging the wheel,
>> uninstall the drivers and plug the wheel in and let it autodetect.
>> Make sure you have XPSP2 installed too. I have the MS FF USB and a
>> black Momo and actually prefer the Momo. I wish I could somehow use
>> the MS pedals as they are almost bulletproof where the Momo pedals
>> fail frequently. Ed
> Hmm, I could try that, however, I do have the option of setting
> separate brake and accelerator
> axis, which I prefer in NR 2003 , I would hate to lose that
> function...
> Don Burnette
Larry enlightened us with:
> The 4.0 software was the initial and only software MS ever released. It
> was never updated and never will be.
> Somewhere along the line a particular XP update breaks the Macro
> function. I know of no way to repair it.
> Bear in mind this is the same software MS granted HWQL certification
> to for XP, and they didn't even bother to remove the incompatibility
> warning during installation. Shows how reliable the HWQL
> certification really is, or how much you can get away with if you own
> the certification :)
> I know your problem well. I just don't believe there is a fix or
> ever will be.
> -Larry
>> After getting NR 2003 up and running successfully, I installed the
>> software for my MS Sidewinder FF usb wheel.
>> I installed the software for the wheel from the cd that came with
>> it. It is version 4, for the usb wheel. I believe this was the
>> latest software produced for this wheel? I searched the MS website ,
>> and did not find any later drivers, realizing of course, support
>> is really not offered by MS anymore for this wheel.
>> The problem I am having, when I install on my XP Pro installation, I
>> get a warning message that it may not function properly, as it
>> recognizes my system as a windows NT/2000 installation.
>> It works ok, with the exception, of the recorder portion of the
>> software. If I try and launch the recorder, it closes with an
>> error message , something about a dll file.
>> Anyone know, of any later software that was offered for this wheel
>> for Windows XP, that might still be available somewhere? Or a
>> workaround for this issue?
>> I also have the original red Momo I could install and use, assuming
>> it would work ok in XP, however, for NR2003 I always preferred the
>> MS wheel, mainly for the increased pedal throw over the Momo.
>> Any help would be appreciated...
>> Thanks,
>> Don Burnette
Follow the instructions EXACTLY, as you have to plug the wheel in at
the correct step in the installation.
Another thing to try is to power up the computer with the wheel plugged
in.
Even with my installation, I have to go into the recorder on the
control panel and set my buttons every time I have a racing session.
Get it working, because the N2003 community is thinning out!
Gil
Ed
To prove me wrong or you wrong, you would have to understand what Larry and
I meant. It would seem that if you bought a brand new version (shipped as
XP Sp2) then the wheel wont install the software, because something about
the way the sindwinder installer used a hackable loophole in XP, to install
itself. Seems now that Larry mentioned it, I read this problem before. But
I cant recall if anyone found a way around it. I know I have pre service
pack 1 xp at home and at work.
Gil enlightened us with:
The problem is the Macro's tab in the profiler is dead.
Otherwise it works ok.
Luckily, I had my profiles backed up and just copy them over manually.
-Larry
> The problem is the Macro's tab in the profiler is dead.
> Otherwise it works ok.
> Luckily, I had my profiles backed up and just copy them over manually.
> -Larry
>> No, Gil,
>> To prove me wrong or you wrong, you would have to understand what
>> Larry and I meant. It would seem that if you bought a brand new
>> version (shipped as XP Sp2) then the wheel wont install the
>> software, because something about the way the sindwinder installer
>> used a hackable loophole in XP, to install itself. Seems now that
>> Larry mentioned it, I read this problem before. But I cant recall
>> if anyone found a way around it. I know I have pre service pack 1
>> xp at home and at work. Gil enlightened us with:
>>> My MSFF USB wheel has always worked fine, with my frequently patched
>>> XP installation.
>>> Follow the instructions EXACTLY, as you have to plug the wheel in at
>>> the correct step in the installation.
>>> Another thing to try is to power up the computer with the wheel
>>> plugged in.
>>> Even with my installation, I have to go into the recorder on the
>>> control panel and set my buttons every time I have a racing session.
>>> Get it working, because the N2003 community is thinning out!
>>> Gil
GP
>The problem is the Macro's tab in the profiler is dead.
>Otherwise it works ok.
>Luckily, I had my profiles backed up and just copy them over manually.
>-Larry
Profiles you copy over that are complete will work. You just can't do any
changes or it crashes.
-Larry
>> The problem is the Macro's tab in the profiler is dead.
>> Otherwise it works ok.
>> Luckily, I had my profiles backed up and just copy them over manually.
>> -Larry
>>> No, Gil,
>>> To prove me wrong or you wrong, you would have to understand what
>>> Larry and I meant. It would seem that if you bought a brand new
>>> version (shipped as XP Sp2) then the wheel wont install the
>>> software, because something about the way the sindwinder installer
>>> used a hackable loophole in XP, to install itself. Seems now that
>>> Larry mentioned it, I read this problem before. But I cant recall
>>> if anyone found a way around it. I know I have pre service pack 1
>>> xp at home and at work. Gil enlightened us with:
>>>> My MSFF USB wheel has always worked fine, with my frequently patched
>>>> XP installation.
>>>> Follow the instructions EXACTLY, as you have to plug the wheel in at
>>>> the correct step in the installation.
>>>> Another thing to try is to power up the computer with the wheel
>>>> plugged in.
>>>> Even with my installation, I have to go into the recorder on the
>>>> control panel and set my buttons every time I have a racing session.
>>>> Get it working, because the N2003 community is thinning out!
>>>> Gil
-Larry
> GP
>>The software will actually install (just ignore the Win98 warning).
>>The problem is the Macro's tab in the profiler is dead.
>>Otherwise it works ok.
>>Luckily, I had my profiles backed up and just copy them over manually.
>>-Larry
Thanks Ed.
As far as the stability issue, as far as I know, I have all updated drivers
for video and sound, plus the most recent motherboard drivers as well. I
just have a sneaky suspicion, I may have a failing or inconsistant power
supply, I have ordered a new Antec 550W from Newegg, should be waiting on me
when I get back home from out of town this week. I'll put that in, and
either it will fix the stability, or not, and if not then I at least know it
wasn't the power supply :).
As far as NR2003, I turned on 3d sound, it was set off at default and I was
getting some crazy F1 type sounds in replay window at the race screen. I do
not have any non-default sound files, it is a clean install of NR2003 with
the main patch, I forget the version number as I don't have access to my
home computer at the moment.
Thanks for the feedback,
Don