The entire "43 car" argument only applies to offline racing, and I have
no desire to race imaginary opponents. The problem is that there is a
huge market that buys games to play offline, but only a few thousand of
us that race on the net. Our wants and desires don't have much weight
yet in the decision making process.
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Sure, it would be better to have the advanced physics engine, but
competition wise would be lacking. How fun could it be racing against 15
opponents? Sooner, but probably later, we will have the advanced physics
engine and the full starting field. I can wait. I'll buy this version and
probably every version after that just as every other true 'NASCAR NUT'
will!
Dan Kimmel
mike
> > Since Papyrus announced that Nascar3 would not use the
> > GPL engine because it would not work properly with 43 cars
> > with todays CPU's , would you be willing to race against 15 opponents
> > with an advanced physics engine, as opposed to a slightly upgraded N2
> > engine with 43 opponents and better graphics ? In other words quality
> > vs quantity.
> Does anyone really expect to be able to race 43 cars on the internet
> anyway? Even with dedicated servers and T1 lines on TEN the best we
> could do is 24 cars. With cable or DSL I doubt we will be able to race
> more than 18 with any stabilty.
> The entire "43 car" argument only applies to offline racing, and I have
> no desire to race imaginary opponents. The problem is that there is a
> huge market that buys games to play offline, but only a few thousand of
> us that race on the net. Our wants and desires don't have much weight
> yet in the decision making process.
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Id much rather have better physics than 43 cars, but Im not a huge Nascar
fan either.
ML
>Game vs. Simulator!
>Sure, it would be better to have the advanced physics engine, but
>competition wise would be lacking. How fun could it be racing against 15
>opponents? Sooner, but probably later, we will have the advanced physics
>engine and the full starting field. I can wait. I'll buy this version and
>probably every version after that just as every other true 'NASCAR NUT'
>will!
>Dan Kimmel
>> Since Papyrus announced that Nascar3 would not use the
>> GPL engine because it would not work properly with 43 cars
>> with todays CPU's , would you be willing to race against 15 opponents
>> with an advanced physics engine, as opposed to a slightly upgraded N2
>> engine with 43 opponents and better graphics ? In other words quality
>> vs quantity.
........
Although Papyrus had previously announced plans to develop NASCAR?
Racing 3 around the physics engine in Grand Prix Legends, it was
determined that the system requirements needed to support that model
with a 43 car field would exceed that of virtually all systems on the
market today. An enhanced version of the physics from previous
NASCAR? titles will be used in NASCAR? Racing 3. Papyrus will
continue developing its next generation physics engine for use in
future NASCAR? products.
.......
Nothing in the rest of the press release states anything about online
racing or the number of opponents. Maybe there's another press release
from Papy some place?
> I've been wondering that my self. Unless I missed something, I have
> yet to see anything stated about the number of cars to race on line.
> I'll have to re read the papy press release to see if it's in there.
> All I remember it saying is that you can race 43 cars but I don't think
> it said 43 online. again, I'll re read it.
> mike
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a motor car and racing would not exist as a sport." -- Jim Clark
> Id much rather have better physics than 43 cars, but Im not a huge Nascar
> fan either.
> ML
> >I wouldn't!
> >Game vs. Simulator!
> >Sure, it would be better to have the advanced physics engine, but
> >competition wise would be lacking. How fun could it be racing against 15
> >opponents? Sooner, but probably later, we will have the advanced physics
> >engine and the full starting field. I can wait. I'll buy this version
and
> >probably every version after that just as every other true 'NASCAR NUT'
> >will!
> >Dan Kimmel
> >> Since Papyrus announced that Nascar3 would not use the
> >> GPL engine because it would not work properly with 43 cars
> >> with todays CPU's , would you be willing to race against 15 opponents
> >> with an advanced physics engine, as opposed to a slightly upgraded N2
> >> engine with 43 opponents and better graphics ? In other words quality
> >> vs quantity.
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oval is OK too (In my book).
> >Since Papyrus announced that Nascar3 would not use the
> >GPL engine because it would not work properly with 43 cars
> >with todays CPU's , would you be willing to race against 15 opponents
> >with an advanced physics engine, as opposed to a slightly upgraded N2
> >engine with 43 opponents and better graphics ? In other words quality
> >vs quantity.
> Since racing with more than ten or so people on GPL/VROC starts
> turning into a demo derby more times than not, I hesitate to ponder
> just what 30-40 car N3 pick-up races will be like. The question is
> how many GPL racers we'll still find on VROC once N3 is released?
> (maybe a fair number once they get tired of "N3-newbie-crash-o-rama")
> "But in a way, fear is a big part of racing, because if there was
> nothing to be frightened of, and no limit, any fool could get into
> a motor car and racing would not exist as a sport." -- Jim Clark
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LOL! So you have become -only- a fan of 60's F1 racing?
While I like GPL, I also enjoy driving other types of sims.
When I drive those other sims, I choose the best available
sim to do my driving. Nascar3 will be the best Nascar sim
ever produced, IMO.
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> Game vs. Simulator!
> Sure, it would be better to have the advanced physics engine, but
> competition wise would be lacking. How fun could it be racing against 15
> opponents? Sooner, but probably later, we will have the advanced physics
> engine and the full starting field. I can wait. I'll buy this version
and
> probably every version after that just as every other true 'NASCAR NUT'
> will!
> Dan Kimmel
> > Since Papyrus announced that Nascar3 would not use the
> > GPL engine because it would not work properly with 43 cars
> > with todays CPU's , would you be willing to race against 15 opponents
> > with an advanced physics engine, as opposed to a slightly upgraded N2
> > engine with 43 opponents and better graphics ? In other words quality
> > vs quantity.
