rec.autos.simulators

<sarcasm>
I on purpose won't reply to you, but that's because it would be too
hilarious Goy.  Hmm.. my theses! Great stuff in them, still ;-)    I won't
challenge nor will I approve your message Goy.  Instead, when someday we
race on WON at a road track, you will see or not if I agreed with you.  If
you get punted, you'll know I didn't agreed ;-D

And since people like Barton obviously don't like cynical messages, then we
shall go to N3.D to actually have some fun 8)
</s>

--
-- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
-- May the Downforce be with you...
-- http://www.racesimcentral.net/
-- People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise
how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.

Huh, let's go make fun of Ramsden.....

Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy

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"The Pits"    http://www.theuspits.com/

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There's a statement I cannot argue with. Except maybe the "good thing"
part -- I think even his most ardent sycophants would have to grant that
he's not an unalloyed joy ...

BB

Theses!? I thought he said "feces"! Well, *that's* a different matter,
then. I hate to dredge up old grievances (again), but who was that young
Quebecois whose "theses" included pirating Indy, offering it to all and
sundry, and then boasting about it in his sig at the time? I think a
certain software company objected quite strenuously to that bit of
bare-faced larceny, didn't they? Could that be the same guy who's *now*
preaching against the evils of warez (and you, Frank, know *my* position
against piracy very well). Is this the same Francois Menard who once
claimed to have created RAS, and now talks of the algorithms and
relative merits of sim game engines as if he had coded them himself? You
*still* haven't answered my very honest question: what are the
functional, objective (based on the mechanics of the game engines, not
on you and your buddies' opinions of "how they feel") differences among
the various game engines that are at the heart of sims like GPL, GP2,
N3, F12K, etc.? If you *know*, it's not a difficult answer, and you can
spare everyone here by replying by email if you like (or not -- I'm sure
there are plenty of people who would like a better understanding of how
these engines work). If you *don't* know...well, I think everyone can
draw their own conclusions. I'm not pickin' on ya, little buddy -- I
just want some info. Are you da man, or what?

Au contraire, mon frere! I love *well-crafted" cynical messages, it's
just the completely unimaginative ones that bore me to tears. What is
life without art?

BB

If I may be so bold as to but into your little discussion yet another
time, I disagree here Bart, we need all sorts of people in this group,
it would be an incredibly boring place if everyone adhered to the
conformity rule (trying to impress everyone here with my vast knowledge
of the English language :-), which is why I'm glad we have people like
Ymenard around, and Don Wilshe and yes, even Bruce Kennewell :-), we are
blessed with very few people in here that are only morons that do not
contribute in one way or another, the only person I've ever really
wanted to leave was Y2K rick, for rather obvious reasons...:-)

Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy

"Team Mirage" http://www.teammirage.com/
"The Pits"    http://www.theuspits.com/

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hehe... has anyone told him it's safe to leave his bunker now?

It's not safe for him, he pissed off too many people, so his Y2K proof
bunker came in handy after all....

...and he *did* actually come out of hiding for a few days just after
new year, he posted a few time in the N3.discussion group about how he
had been wrong (gee, we already knew that rick), not an apology for all
his annoying posts or anything mind you, just stated the obvious, and
then started talking about that we were not out of the woods yet as some
problems wouldn't arise until a bit into the new year, and then there
was the "leap year" problem ....

But I must admit that I'm curious as to what he's up to know, it's
always a good idea to know what people like him are doing, he might move
to a place near you...the horror of it all...

Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy

"Team Mirage" http://www.teammirage.com/
"The Pits"    http://www.theuspits.com/

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Couldn't agree more. I was simply unwilling to characterize Frank's
...er, *character* as necessarily and unequivocally "good". Nor is mine.

BB

Ah, got you all wrong then, it "sounded" to me as you thought Ymenard
had no place in here because he chose to be different, and that
surprised me more than a little coming from you, glad I was wrong.....

Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy

"Team Mirage" http://www.teammirage.com/
"The Pits"    http://www.theuspits.com/

* Spam is for losers who can't get business any other way *
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Everybody has evil in himself, I think we both know that...

So Im not perfect? Well Goodly-yes Im not! Should I become a sheep that gets
powered by the Powers that be? Never, that's not anywhere my personnal
goals.  Will I continue to stand against racing developpers who fail to
produce just simply "quality titles"? Of course, I will...    Will I
actually stop posting here? No, but I'll calm down a little.

Careful with that Axe, Barton...

-- eh
-- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
-- May the Downforce be with you...
-- http://www.WeRace.net
-- People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise
how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.

Even David G. Fisher? :)

Never saw him on RAS. Who's he?

Andre

Something tells me I should have put a smiley on that sentence... ;-)

I will make a confession here and now: most days I can't remember what I had
for lunch come dinner time. I honestly don't remember what the general
appreciation of Francois was at the time. I just threw it in to taunt Bart a
little.

I must have joined R.A.S. in the aftermath of "the post", when things were
nearly back to normal with just a few people, it seemed to me at the time,
on a personal crusade against Francois. I only learned what happened when I
enquired about his sig much, much later.

Jan.
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Proud ICR2 Indy500 winner (98% AI) <vwg>

<snip>

Weeeeeeeeell, in principle, yes ....:-)

Naa, seriously though, it's all the different people in here that make
it what it is, and thankfully only a few are morons with nothing to
contribute in any way, very few...

Ah, you've missed out on a "legend" my friend, he was a Y2K prophet that
insisted on telling us that the world as we knew it would end on
December 31st 1999, doomsday and all that, riots in the streets, total
collapse of the banking system, the Russians launching a full scale
nuclear attack because all their weapons would be useless after January
1st so they might as well use them, and because of that, USA ought to
strike first, you probably saw his kind on the news every now and then,
"Y2K survivalists"......head for the hills, the world is ending....

Then there was a bit about people on welfare and the degeneration of the
human race as a whole I think, I got lost in there after a while, but

worth it, he also posted as Omegaman in one of the Y2K NG's, it's funny
now after the fact, but people like him can make a lot of damage with
their misinformation, and there's so much information to be found on the
i-net to support just about any view you care to take, so that kind of
extremist people can be really dangerous

He didn't post too much here on r.a.s. as someone made a complaint to
his ISP that his postings here was not as per the charter of this NG and
that this was a violation of his ISP's rules, unfortunately, some of the
other groups he frequented wasn't so lucky and had to endure quite a bit
of him, so hats off to whoever it was, I'll buy you a beer or two if we
ever meet up (I have a pretty good idea who it was :-)

--
Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy

http://www.theuspits.com
http://www.teammirage.com

"Mountain climbing, auto racing and bullfighting
 are the only true sports...all others are games."  
--Ernest Hemingway--

Stay quite unless you know the FULL story.........

Slight misinterpretation there I think Barton.

It's a "good thing" he posts dissenting and sometimes downright
controversial messages. It provokes thought and discussion, whether I, you
or anyone else agrees or not is beside the point. This also does not make
him a saint or a martyr<sp?>. He's just Francois, which is also a good thing
in its own right.

Sometimes it takes an aggressive post to get an issue explained clearly,
just like when you posted on the "realism tests" in fact (at least I hope it
was clear).

Jan.
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