rec.autos.simulators

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Stiff on

F1 2000 realism

by Stiff on » Sun, 26 Mar 2000 04:00:00

I run this place, I also invented RAS so what I say goes............


rrevve

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by rrevve » Sun, 26 Mar 2000 04:00:00


>I can understand how that bothers you (and other people), but I can't help
>but feel it's more constructive to argue what follows the 'we the sim
>community believe'-bit, not the phrase itself. You can always add "Speak for
>yourself" at the beginning of your reply afaic.

Thats a good idea. That is sort of what I have been saying to him recently.. ;)

Do you find meaning when Frank includes you in his 'we simmers want' group?

Not with me, Jan, but if someone doesn't counter him publicly, it may
appear to sim developers that he, Frank.in.Quebec (tm), IS speaking
for the sim 'community'. I don't want to see that happen, Jan.

I agree wholeheartedly.

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* rrev at mindspring dot com *

Stiff on

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by Stiff on » Sun, 26 Mar 2000 04:00:00

They tell us all they know and use it to give examples of hypocrisy as
well,............
New names for this group

Rec.Autos.Policing.Piracy
Rec.Autos.***s
Rec.Autos.Knowitalls





> >> Do us a favor and tell Bartress that he's won . . . game, set, match,
> >world.

> >Nobody wins or loose in this newsgroup.  People simply exchange opinions,
> >give news and help people with problems.

> .. or proselytize, unfairly criticize, claim knowledge that they don't
possess,
> ego-stroke  ...

> --
> * rrev at mindspring dot com *

Stiff on

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by Stiff on » Sun, 26 Mar 2000 04:00:00

I forgot

Rec.Autos.Hypocrites

Reevved hit the nail on the head "ego stroke". Good call
reevved...............


> They tell us all they know and use it to give examples of hypocrisy as
> well,............
> New names for this group

> Rec.Autos.Policing.Piracy
> Rec.Autos.***s
> Rec.Autos.Knowitalls






> > >> Do us a favor and tell Bartress that he's won . . . game, set, match,
> > >world.

> > >Nobody wins or loose in this newsgroup.  People simply exchange
opinions,
> > >give news and help people with problems.

> > .. or proselytize, unfairly criticize, claim knowledge that they don't
> possess,
> > ego-stroke  ...

> > --
> > * rrev at mindspring dot com *

Bruce Kennewel

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by Bruce Kennewel » Mon, 27 Mar 2000 04:00:00

What then, Bart....simple basic pig-iron? :-)

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Regards,
Bruce Kennewell,
Canberra, Australia.
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Bruce Kennewel

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by Bruce Kennewel » Mon, 27 Mar 2000 04:00:00

Bart....it's just struck me (notice how observant I'm becoming in my old
age!)....what's happened to the "Spencer"?

--
Regards,
Bruce Kennewell,
Canberra, Australia.
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> > Hmm.. my theses! Great stuff in them, still ;-)

> Theses!? I thought he said "feces"! Well, *that's* a different matter,
> then. I hate to dredge up old grievances (again), but who was that young
> Quebecois whose "theses" included pirating Indy, offering it to all and
> sundry, and then boasting about it in his sig at the time? I think a
> certain software company objected quite strenuously to that bit of
> bare-faced larceny, didn't they? Could that be the same guy who's *now*
> preaching against the evils of warez (and you, Frank, know *my* position
> against piracy very well). Is this the same Francois Menard who once
> claimed to have created RAS, and now talks of the algorithms and
> relative merits of sim game engines as if he had coded them himself? You
> *still* haven't answered my very honest question: what are the
> functional, objective (based on the mechanics of the game engines, not
> on you and your buddies' opinions of "how they feel") differences among
> the various game engines that are at the heart of sims like GPL, GP2,
> N3, F12K, etc.? If you *know*, it's not a difficult answer, and you can
> spare everyone here by replying by email if you like (or not -- I'm sure
> there are plenty of people who would like a better understanding of how
> these engines work). If you *don't* know...well, I think everyone can
> draw their own conclusions. I'm not pickin' on ya, little buddy -- I
> just want some info. Are you da man, or what?

> > And since people like Barton obviously don't like cynical messages

> Au contraire, mon frere! I love *well-crafted" cynical messages, it's
> just the completely unimaginative ones that bore me to tears. What is
> life without art?

> BB

Bruce Kennewel

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by Bruce Kennewel » Mon, 27 Mar 2000 04:00:00

Thanks for the vote, Uncle! :-)

--
Regards,
Bruce Kennewell,
Canberra, Australia.
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> > > If nothing else, he brings character to the group, which is a good
thing.

> > There's a statement I cannot argue with. Except maybe the "good thing"
> > part -- I think even his most ardent sycophants would have to grant that
> > he's not an unalloyed joy ...

> If I may be so bold as to but into your little discussion yet another
> time, I disagree here Bart, we need all sorts of people in this group,
> it would be an incredibly boring place if everyone adhered to the
> conformity rule (trying to impress everyone here with my vast knowledge
> of the English language :-), which is why I'm glad we have people like
> Ymenard around, and Don Wilshe and yes, even Bruce Kennewell :-), we are
> blessed with very few people in here that are only morons that do not
> contribute in one way or another, the only person I've ever really
> wanted to leave was Y2K rick, for rather obvious reasons...:-)

> Beers and cheers
> (uncle) Goy

> "Team Mirage" http://www.teammirage.com/
> "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/

> * Spam is for losers who can't get business any other way *
> "Spamkiller"    http://www.spamkiller.com

Bruce Kennewel

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by Bruce Kennewel » Mon, 27 Mar 2000 04:00:00

He's searching the heavens for approaching asteroids, Uncle.

--
Regards,
Bruce Kennewell,
Canberra, Australia.
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> > > the only person I've ever really
> > > wanted to leave was Y2K rick, for rather obvious reasons...:-)

> > hehe... has anyone told him it's safe to leave his bunker now?

> It's not safe for him, he pissed off too many people, so his Y2K proof
> bunker came in handy after all....

> ...and he *did* actually come out of hiding for a few days just after
> new year, he posted a few time in the N3.discussion group about how he
> had been wrong (gee, we already knew that rick), not an apology for all
> his annoying posts or anything mind you, just stated the obvious, and
> then started talking about that we were not out of the woods yet as some
> problems wouldn't arise until a bit into the new year, and then there
> was the "leap year" problem ....

> But I must admit that I'm curious as to what he's up to know, it's
> always a good idea to know what people like him are doing, he might move
> to a place near you...the horror of it all...

> Beers and cheers
> (uncle) Goy

> "Team Mirage" http://www.teammirage.com/
> "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/

> * Spam is for losers who can't get business any other way *
> "Spamkiller"    http://www.spamkiller.com

Bruce Kennewel

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by Bruce Kennewel » Mon, 27 Mar 2000 04:00:00

I think he was the bloke who predicted (here) The End Of Civilisation As We
Know It for January 1st. 2000, Andre.  I can't recall all of the story but
I'm sure it was about that.
--
Regards,
Bruce Kennewell,
Canberra, Australia.
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> >of the English language :-), which is why I'm glad we have people like
> >Ymenard around, and Don Wilshe and yes, even Bruce Kennewell :-), we are

> Even David G. Fisher? :)

> >blessed with very few people in here that are only morons that do not
> >contribute in one way or another, the only person I've ever really
> >wanted to leave was Y2K rick, for rather obvious reasons...:-)

> Never saw him on RAS. Who's he?

> Andre

Bruce Kennewel

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by Bruce Kennewel » Mon, 27 Mar 2000 04:00:00

Thanks for clueing us in on the Rick affair, Goy.  I never did get into that
thread.......thank God! :-)

--
Regards,
Bruce Kennewell,
Canberra, Australia.
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> > >of the English language :-), which is why I'm glad we have people like
> > >Ymenard around, and Don Wilshe and yes, even Bruce Kennewell :-), we
are

> > Even David G. Fisher? :)

> Weeeeeeeeell, in principle, yes ....:-)

> Naa, seriously though, it's all the different people in here that make
> it what it is, and thankfully only a few are morons with nothing to
> contribute in any way, very few...

> > >blessed with very few people in here that are only morons that do not
> > >contribute in one way or another, the only person I've ever really
> > >wanted to leave was Y2K rick, for rather obvious reasons...:-)

> > Never saw him on RAS. Who's he?

> Ah, you've missed out on a "legend" my friend, he was a Y2K prophet that
> insisted on telling us that the world as we knew it would end on
> December 31st 1999, doomsday and all that, riots in the streets, total
> collapse of the banking system, the Russians launching a full scale
> nuclear attack because all their weapons would be useless after January
> 1st so they might as well use them, and because of that, USA ought to
> strike first, you probably saw his kind on the news every now and then,
> "Y2K survivalists"......head for the hills, the world is ending....

> Then there was a bit about people on welfare and the degeneration of the
> human race as a whole I think, I got lost in there after a while, but

> worth it, he also posted as Omegaman in one of the Y2K NG's, it's funny
> now after the fact, but people like him can make a lot of damage with
> their misinformation, and there's so much information to be found on the
> i-net to support just about any view you care to take, so that kind of
> extremist people can be really dangerous

> He didn't post too much here on r.a.s. as someone made a complaint to
> his ISP that his postings here was not as per the charter of this NG and
> that this was a violation of his ISP's rules, unfortunately, some of the
> other groups he frequented wasn't so lucky and had to endure quite a bit
> of him, so hats off to whoever it was, I'll buy you a beer or two if we
> ever meet up (I have a pretty good idea who it was :-)

> --
> Beers and cheers
> (uncle) Goy

> http://www.theuspits.com
> http://www.teammirage.com

> "Mountain climbing, auto racing and bullfighting
>  are the only true sports...all others are games."
> --Ernest Hemingway--

Bruce Kennewel

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by Bruce Kennewel » Mon, 27 Mar 2000 04:00:00

LOL!!
Thanks again, Goy!

--
Regards,
Bruce Kennewell,
Canberra, Australia.
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> > Thanks for the vote, Uncle! :-)

> You welcome, I can appreciate that you might feel a little uncomfy in
> that company, but at least I didn't put you in the "very few people in
> here that are only morons that do not contribute in one way or another"
> category :-)

> Beers and cheers
> (uncle) Goy

> http://www.theuspits.com
> http://www.teammirage.com

> "Mountain climbing, auto racing and bullfighting
>  are the only true sports...all others are games."
> --Ernest Hemingway--

Bruce Kennewel

F1 2000 realism

by Bruce Kennewel » Mon, 27 Mar 2000 04:00:00

Careful....he might hear you!

--
Regards,
Bruce Kennewell,
Canberra, Australia.
---------------------------



> > Thanks for clueing us in on the Rick affair, Goy.  I never did get into
that
> > thread.......thank God! :-)

> You're most welcome, and I must admit that there were times when I just
> couldn't resist no more and just *had* to reply to some of his posts,
> his problem was that he wasn't very good at what he was doing, all you
> had to do was read what was posted on these sites he posted links too,
> and you'd soon see so many conflicting statements you'd think these
> people were running for office somewhere :-), and when confronted by it,
> he would then drop the subject altogether and find a new subject, very
> tiresome chap to discuss with

> Beers and cheers
> (uncle) Goy

> http://www.theuspits.com
> http://www.teammirage.com

> "Mountain climbing, auto racing and bullfighting
>  are the only true sports...all others are games."
> --Ernest Hemingway--

Jan Verschuere

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by Jan Verschuere » Mon, 27 Mar 2000 04:00:00

Hehe... sarcasm, not bad.

Jan.
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<snip>

Barton Brow

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by Barton Brow » Mon, 27 Mar 2000 04:00:00


> Quite a combination there Bart, PBR and Twinkies...what made you go for
> that one ?

No matter how long you keep them, they taste exactly the same as when
fresh...in other words, ghastly.

BB

Barton Brow

F1 2000 realism

by Barton Brow » Mon, 27 Mar 2000 04:00:00


> What then, Bart....simple basic pig-iron? :-)

Low carbon steel with some random impurities, I think...

BB


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