rec.autos.simulators

    There have been enough messages advocating one FF wheel over another on
this board to pore over for months.  Ultimately, I threw a dart at a board
and opted for the Forse RS/Shifter (actually in fairness to Act Labs, I did
a *little* more than this and am looking forward to getting the wheel after
it ships from back order).  It had pretty much come down to Force RS and
LWFF and I liked two things about the Force RS, the flexibility of use with
other systems (looking forward to Crazy Taxi and other DC racers) and the
shifter (don't race manual yet, but I intend to learn :-) ).  Anyhow, back
on topic...

    I haven't seen enough threads cover the favorite FF implementation in
games.  Perhaps I am new, but if anyone can recommend their top 5 or so
titles, I would appreciate it.  Off the top of my list I have NFS3, NFS:HS
and Nascar 3 and look forward to testing the implementation in these.  I
expect to see the resident favorite GPL, i suppose.  In any case, I'd like
to hear your opinions.

    Also, any recommendations for tuning the feedback settings on the
aforementioned games would be welcome as well.

Thx,
    Phil

The N3 demo was just released tonight (2 tracks), you can get all of
them at www.3dfiles.com

"Philip Carrotta" wrote

I recently received a MSFF wheel as a gift from my wife,<G>,

and have a few observations:

N3: Great fun! esp. when a tire goes down, you know when you have heavy
wheel damage. : )

GPL: Adds to an already immersive simulatory experience. Its so good on this
game that I don't understand why!

Viper: If you like NFS,youl love Viper with FF!

My 1 1/2 cents

Jeff "Flex" Flechsing
LTO Motorsports

Joe McGinn
_________________________
GA-Sports Writer
http://www.ga-sports.com/

The FF effects in NFS are gimmics. They do not help with driving the car,
and in fact I drive those games better with out FF. The NFS games are only
good for showing off your new wheel to some one who doesn't play sims.
GPL by far has the best FF effects, you can actually feel what the car is
doing. If I were going to rate it on a scale of 1 to 10, GPL would be 9 or
10, and the closest sim would be like 5 (in my opinion MGPRS2).
The FF effects in Rally Champion are kinda cool also, but they don't help
you drive the car, they are more of the gimmicy FF effects.
I have not played N3, I have DL'ed the demo, but I haven't installed it yet
(cable modem, DL everything).

My opinion is that the GPL and Viper Racing have the best FF implementations.
NASCAR Racing 3 is decent, but does not add to the actual handling/reaction
characteristics that GPL and Viper display.  Its the same in NASCAR Legends as
in N3.  DTR's FF implementation is a tad below that of N3 IMHO.

Viper and GPL took FF to the next level by actually helping the driver feel
what the car is doing and how it is handling.  Not just a vibrating wheel when
you hit something, etc  Be warned...  FF in GPL makes it much more difficult at
first.  However, a few hours and you will realize how beneficial FF is.

Good choice on the wheel/shifter BTW =)

My .02 <G>

Scott
PA-Scott
PowerSims.com

if you've ever been off raod mud dogging you will know . I was pleasantly
suprised at how acurate this software really is,  and MGPR2  is good as
well,
but MTM2 is really good I was very suprised, and find myself in it just to
have fun,

...of those I played... but there is no doubt, that GPL and Viper are top
notch...

CU
Zolli

Actually I found it instantly made the cars easier to handle. I just
wasn't able to pick up the subtle visual weight-shifting cues. With
the FF it became a whole new game.

Joe McGinn
_________________________
GA-Sports Writer
http://www.ga-sports.com/

Marc.

Joe McGinn
_________________________
GA-Sports Writer
http://www.ga-sports.com/

~daxe

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