rec.autos.simulators

SPEED SENSITIVITY
X AXIS SENSITIVITY
Y AXIS SENSITIVITY
X AXIS DEADZONE
Y AXIS DEADZONE

Any feedback or help would be greatly appreciated!

I can't say whether or not this is ideal for everyone, and you using a
joystick may make these kinda pointless, maybe.  But just in case it helps
you or anyone else, here's what works well for my Momo...:

Speed Sensitivity:    85%
X Axis Sensitivity:    45%
Y Axis Sensitivity:    0%
RZ Axis Sensitivity:     20%  (Split axis - RZ instead of Y)
X Deadzone:    1%
Y Deadzone:    0%

I strongly recommend setting Speed Sensitivity to 0% (full linear) and
X-axis sensitivity to about 5% with a MOMO.  You will get much better feel
for the steering particularly when braking into corners.

A friend of mine with a sidewinder joystick uses 20% SS and 0% X-axis.

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Damien Smith

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Speed sensitivity lessens the influence of the wheel at high speeds only.
Without it, the car is so twitchy at high speeds that it is easy to go
off-track.  Having a higher sens. number approximates the centrifugal force
that the wheels generate, which helps to keep the car traveling in a
straight line.  This is from an article by former Benneton engineer Steve
Matchett at
http://www.planet-f1.com/features/guest/guest.html/f1/ENG?guest0001=g...
6: "rotational, centrifugal force generates a gyroscopic effect which,
depending on velocity, makes the steering increasingly heavy, the car less
responsive to the driver's steering input."   Thus, it should be harder to
affect your car's motion at higher speed than at low speed.  That is what
speed sensitivity is there for..

Of the two, X-axis sensitivity would be more likely to affect how you turn
into corners.  But turning it down to 5% as you suggest, my car becomes
extremely sluggish, meaning I have to apply more steering input, earlier.
Not exactly what one needs in negotiating tight chicanes.  Turning up the
sensitivity to 45% gives me excellent turn-in in comparison.

I'm not saying you're incorrect, though - if your values work for you,
that's great.  But you may want to experiment with these values (as I did
with yours).

I'll try the different settings and see what feels best with my crappy
joystick. Time to get a FF wheel I guess!

x-no-archive: yes

I don't get this at all... Some people seem to be doing some weird stuff
with controllers to compensate for stuff they should set right in the first
place.

Turn the speed sensitivity off. Having that on will cause the same amount of
wheel movement to give different amounts of lock depending on your speed.
Imagine turning into a corner, and slowing as you do. You may keep the wheel
in the same place, but your amount of lock in the game will change. ***s
me completely! I can't drive like that, and I bet most others can't do it
reliably without loads of practice, because it goes against the nature of
all driving things.

Next sensitivity. Why turn that down? It gives less control. Slap it at 100,
and if you find the car too twitchy, then reduce the steering lock in the
car setup. I don't get why people try to drive a F1 with 20 degrees of
lock!! Set the lock to a realistic figure, like 8-12 degrees in the setup,
and whoa! you'll need to increase the sensitivity in the controller setup.
Makes sense to me.

R.

(Set in 1st options screen) 100%

(joystick options screen)
100%

100%

4% (might not need that much).

1%

 Seems to work pretty well, no jerky 'zig-zagging' down straights, and
a decent feel for gas and brake.

 I see others posting varied settings, the numbers above might not
work well for your joystick.

 For car-setups, I usually set 'Steering-Lock' to 18 or 20. Any more
or less, the car feels too jumpy, or can't turn enough.

 Matt

If that is the case then full linear is undriveable.

I tried this suggestion, but moving the wheel 1mm at high speed resulted in
a spin.

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Damien Smith

ICQ: 77028579
F12001 rank: +21.468

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Damien Smith

ICQ: 77028579
F12001 rank: +21.468

I've no doubt you're car is turning in easily - that's because the steering
gain is increasing as you're slowing down into a corner (because of the 85%
SS) - very annoying and a bad habit to get into IMO.  I assume you also set
speed sens. to 0% when setting x-axis to 5%?  If you still find it sluggish
into corners, then you simply need to increase the steering lock.

Well, I believe that what you're telling me works for you.  But my main
problem when I run with your settings is that the car wanders on high speed
straights (Hockenheim, for example) and the Momo FF kicks the wheel back and
forth slightly if I get the slightest bit offline.  This gives me the
sensation of instability, and that's opposite of what you'd expect out of a
car in a situation like that.  Momentum would make it less likely to want to
move from its course.

Low-speed corners?  I really don't get a sensation that my steering force is
increasing as I turn in, as you suggest.  Honest.  If anything, I could use
more force sometimes, as some of the corners are still pretty tight.  And my
lock settings are fairly high..

I'm using FF settings that a number of people on HG use, too - so I'd say
they're pretty common, and I'm not going to go changing them lightly.  It
may be that when the new game comes out, I'll re-think this.  I'll probably
have to, anyways.  But I really don't want to mess with my settings any
further until then - I'd have to mess with all my setups to do so, and I am
enjoying just driving now.  But thanks for the convo - it's helpful to
consider these things, from time to time..

Ack!  Hopefully you turned down the steering lock angle in the vehicle
setup also?  I use about 18 degrees of steering lock with control
settings as above and a wheel that has 180 degree rotation.  I also use
the medium sensitivity setting in the Wingman profiler, because that is
the only one for which full wheel travel equals full axis travel.  These
settings feel quite comfortable to me.

Yep these are the same conclusions I reached and this is exactly what I do
with my TMFF.  Speed Sensitivity 0 and all Axis sensitivities 50% will give
you full linear.  Then compensate for straightine twitchyness by turning
down the steering lock, mine is at 12 degrees I believe.  The only problem
with this setup is that sometimes you can't turn tight enough out of the
pits to avoid the pitwall!  After you've done that, THEN mess with the FF.

    -Phasor