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by **Larr** » Sat, 08 Jun 2002 12:25:35

I'd love to do a full race one day :) Daytona would be great!

-Larry

> >> writes:

> >> >To think, this all started over Eldred turning off Yellows for Pocono
:)

> >> No, this all started because people wanted me to host longer races in
N2002
> >> like I used to do in GPL...<g>

> >haha! good one Eldred. I have hardly done races longer than 30
> >minutes in GPL, but the RASCAR races are two hours in front of the
> >steering wheel. There should be a autopilot mode during yellows to
> >allow running to the toilet :D

> We've done *10* full-length GP races. I've also run in 50% races with the
CORS
> league, and full races with the MoG league. You oughta try longer races
more
> often.
> We *still* haven't done a full race with N2002...<g>

> Eldred
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by **Larr** » Sat, 08 Jun 2002 12:27:00

I did a 70 or 80 one time. Forget the exact number.

And it was a BRISTOL race with yellows :)

After the first 100 laps or so, and after all the non-racers were weeded out
and sent home, it actually wasn't bad at all. In fact, it was a damned fine
race.

-Larry

> >We *still* haven't done a full race with N2002...<g>

> >Eldred

> You know, that would be pretty cool. We could really kill ourselves
> and do the 600 at Lowes. Come to think of it, after playing N4 and
> N2002 almost constantly since their release I have never run a race
> that is more than 50% in length.

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by **Larr** » Sat, 08 Jun 2002 12:27:52

That's what I thought. I was suprised to hear it wasn't.

-Larry

> It shows as a red #8 to me.

> David G Fisher

> > I don't have a special car.

> > You mean it's not showing up as the red #8? I always thought it did :)

> > What numbers are available. I can change, no problem.

> > This is an area of NR I don't really follow or understand.

> > -Larry

> > > Hey Larry!

> > > Just wanted to ask you if you could consider to switch one of the
> availibe
> > > RASCAR carnumbers - and then upload your car so the rest of us can
> > download
> > > it...

> > > On my PC you just drive around in a blue car with #8 on it.. and
> according
> > > to our rooster - #8 has been taken.
> > > See http://www.paddedwall.org/rascar for availibe numbers..

> > > Would be so nice to see your real car online :-)
> > > (+ you might want to d/l the carset yourself! :-)

> > > Best regards,

> > > ed_

by **Larr** » Sat, 08 Jun 2002 12:28:26

Then, frankly, it's not my problem :)

-Larry

> The reason it may not show as a red #8 to others is if they have removed
> some or all of the original car set that came with N2002.

> David G Fisher

> > It shows as a red #8 to me.

> > David G Fisher

> > > I don't have a special car.

> > > You mean it's not showing up as the red #8? I always thought it did
:)

> > > What numbers are available. I can change, no problem.

> > > This is an area of NR I don't really follow or understand.

> > > -Larry

> > > > Hey Larry!

> > > > Just wanted to ask you if you could consider to switch one of the
> > availibe
> > > > RASCAR carnumbers - and then upload your car so the rest of us can
> > > download
> > > > it...

> > > > On my PC you just drive around in a blue car with #8 on it.. and
> > according
> > > > to our rooster - #8 has been taken.
> > > > See http://www.paddedwall.org/rascar for availibe numbers..

> > > > Would be so nice to see your real car online :-)
> > > > (+ you might want to d/l the carset yourself! :-)

> > > > Best regards,

> > > > ed_

by **Larr** » Sat, 08 Jun 2002 12:32:50

Oh, you don't WANT to have to live with my paint job :)

I spent 11 years in the Navy. The first cruise I ever went on was a 7
monther in the Indian Ocean (during the hostage crisis). Since my
particular rating wasn't a high priority over there, it was seen as a good
time to 'spiffy' up our equipment spaces.

I swear I laid 100 gallons of paint on that cruise, in 120 deg or hotter
heat.

I vowed from that day that if anyone ever MADE me paint something, I would
purposely do it so bad that they would regret it for the rest of their lives
:)

In later years, after I made Chief, I always took volunteer's. There were
plenty who liked to do it. I never forced anyone to pick up a paint brush.

And THAT is how much I hate, and how bad I am, at painting.

-Larry

by **Larr** » Sat, 08 Jun 2002 12:33:26

Cool!

I wish I could duplicate Marine-Aqua :)

-Larry

by **Larr** » Sat, 08 Jun 2002 12:34:15

I'm not going to have time to resolve this by the next race.

This is the first time I've ever had a complaint about using the #8, too.

-Larry

> > "Larry" said
> > > I don't have a special car.

> > > You mean it's not showing up as the red #8? I always thought it did
:)

> > > What numbers are available. I can change, no problem.

> > > This is an area of NR I don't really follow or understand.

> > > > See http://www.paddedwall.org/rascar for availibe numbers..

> > I'm pretty sure that if you ask John kindly he'll find a nice looking
car
> > for you :-)
> > If not - talk to me and I'll try and help you.

> You can't use the #8 unless you're really a guy named Travis Lind
> (that's who has the number reserved).

> Like Ed said, go to the roster page here:

> http://www.paddedwall.org/rascar

> and find a car number that's not already in use, and let me know here.

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by **Larr** » Sat, 08 Jun 2002 12:39:33

I'm sorry, but I still don't understand all of this.

I went to the web pages, but can't figure out what I'm supposed to do.

I can't find a specific listing of car numbers and who has them.

-Larry

> > "Larry" said
> > > I don't have a special car.

> > > You mean it's not showing up as the red #8? I always thought it did
:)

> > > What numbers are available. I can change, no problem.

> > > This is an area of NR I don't really follow or understand.

> > > > See http://www.paddedwall.org/rascar for availibe numbers..

> > I'm pretty sure that if you ask John kindly he'll find a nice looking
car
> > for you :-)
> > If not - talk to me and I'll try and help you.

> You can't use the #8 unless you're really a guy named Travis Lind
> (that's who has the number reserved).

> Like Ed said, go to the roster page here:

> http://www.paddedwall.org/rascar

> and find a car number that's not already in use, and let me know here.

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by **Larr** » Sat, 08 Jun 2002 12:43:12

It's very simple.

When you run in open races, you end up racing with a wide variety of skills
and 'personalities'. It's hard enough to finish a race without an incident
much less win one.

-Larry

> Whats the relationship between open/fixed and LPI? I see very little.

> > Won't work. Most of us run Open races too, and LPI is a useless number
> when
> > you run open races.

> > -Larry

message

> > > How about a LPI restriction instead?

> > > /Carl

> John
> > > > Simmons

> > > > > >Actully, the only way to REALLY fix the problem is to turn this
> thing
> > > > > >into an administered league with a spcific ruleset that everyone
> must
> > > > > >adhere to, along with an access-restricted server (through an
> invite
> > > > > >file). Like I stated earlier (and possibly in another thread),
> > Eldred
> > > > > >isn't up for that (and I really can't blame him).

> > > > > Do we really need *another* league? Aren't there enough out there
> for
> > > > people
> > > > > who want the organized competition? There are probably 10 or more
> > > > different
> > > > > leagues that run every day... Just guessing, but there have to be
a
> > > > COUPLE
> > > > > every day.

> > > > > Eldred

> > > > The way to do it, IMO, is via an invite list. And you have the
> final
> > > say
> > > > on who is on it; if someone doesn't like that, race elsewhere, take
it
> > or
> > > > leave it. You decide if someone gets booted off it, etc. And make
it
> > > > known, them's the rules, they're not up for discussion.
> > > > Keeps it simple, easy, etc.
> > > > It really shouldn't be as involved as this thread.

> > > > -John

by **John Simmon** » Sat, 08 Jun 2002 19:20:20

> >We *still* haven't done a full race with N2002...<g>

> >Eldred

> You know, that would be pretty cool. We could really kill ourselves
> and do the 600 at Lowes. Come to think of it, after playing N4 and
> N2002 almost constantly since their release I have never run a race
> that is more than 50% in length.

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I'd rather run 100% at Watkins Glen with cautions off (but damage on
realistic. :)

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by **John Simmon** » Sat, 08 Jun 2002 19:23:31

I need your sierra ID and country.

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by **John Simmon** » Sat, 08 Jun 2002 19:34:21

I need your sierra ID and country.

If you're going to use Kevin Harvic's car, you need to copy that car
file to something like 29_j_moyer.cup.car, and then go intoopponent
manager and put your own name in the car file (don't forget to select
the new file as your online car).

I don't want to see "Kevin Harvic" on the grid on Saturday. Otherwise,
you'll get an earful.

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by **John Simmon** » Sat, 08 Jun 2002 19:35:12

says...

I wasn't in the last couple of races, but if I had been, you would jave
had a complaint. In fact, you may have been in the last race I was in,
and I recall someone asking if the #8 wasn't already taken. But beyond
all that...

You have plenty of time to resolve it. Just pick a different car number
and upload a car when you have the time. If you want a car number with
an "8" in it, the following car numbers are available:

08
38
48 (you could use the Lowes car that came with the game in the meantime)
58
78
98

See? That was easy.

Next, if you're not going to use #48, you'll have to do a minimal
paintjob for yourself until you come up with something appropriate.

All you need to do is create a new car file and plaster your selected
car number on it. Don't worry about uploading it (until your official
paintjob is done) because the game will compensate for everyone else.

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by **John Simmon** » Sat, 08 Jun 2002 19:43:28

says...

I'll make it easy for you - check the roster to see if the deesired car
number is in use. If you see the yellow text "Available" on a green
rectangle, you can use that car number.

I thought I had spelled it out quite clearly. What part don't you
understand?

It's right there in plain sight. On the left pane, you'll see the word
"Roster". To find out what you have to do, click that word. Once you
read that, click the number pairs under the word "Roster". that cover
the range of numbers that includes the number you think you want to use.
For instance, if you think you'd like to use the number "8", click the
number pair "0-9". The pane on the right side will change to show pics
of all the cars currently in use for that number range (0 through 9).
Well lookie there, someone already has the number "8" reserved. How can
you tell? Because there is either a paintjob shown (with someone's name
above it) or there's a white rectangle with a hand-drawn cartoon car
indicating that no paintjob has been submitted yet.

It's not that freakin hard.

The next easiest thing I can do is just assign the damn car numbers, and
I really don't feel like doing that.

> -Larry

> > > "Larry" said
> > > > I don't have a special car.

> > > > You mean it's not showing up as the red #8? I always thought it did
> :)

> > > > What numbers are available. I can change, no problem.

> > > > This is an area of NR I don't really follow or understand.

> > > > > See http://www.paddedwall.org/rascar for availibe numbers..

> > > I'm pretty sure that if you ask John kindly he'll find a nice looking
> car
> > > for you :-)
> > > If not - talk to me and I'll try and help you.

> > You can't use the #8 unless you're really a guy named Travis Lind
> > (that's who has the number reserved).

> > Like Ed said, go to the roster page here:

> > http://www.paddedwall.org/rascar

> > and find a car number that's not already in use, and let me know here.

> > --
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> > DeMONS/2 for Nascar Racing 4 and 2002 Season (in development)
> > http://www.paddedwall.org/demons2
> > RASCAR Roster
> > http://www.paddedwall.org/rascar
> > Redneck Techno-Biker & "programming deity"
> > http://www.paddedwall.org/john

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by **Larr** » Sat, 08 Jun 2002 21:45:58

John,

Chill out. You don't have to be so condescending about this.

I explained that this is something I've never done before. You need to have
more patience with people.

Read the new thread I've started. I'll take the #98. I'll start working on
the car. I'll use the #48 and standard car until I have time to sort this
out.

Once I have the car done, I'll ask someone if I can't figure out what to do
with it.

-Larry

> says...
> > I'm sorry, but I still don't understand all of this.

> I'll make it easy for you - check the roster to see if the deesired car
> number is in use. If you see the yellow text "Available" on a green
> rectangle, you can use that car number.

> > I went to the web pages, but can't figure out what I'm supposed to do.

> I thought I had spelled it out quite clearly. What part don't you
> understand?

> > I can't find a specific listing of car numbers and who has them.

> It's right there in plain sight. On the left pane, you'll see the word
> "Roster". To find out what you have to do, click that word. Once you
> read that, click the number pairs under the word "Roster". that cover
> the range of numbers that includes the number you think you want to use.
> For instance, if you think you'd like to use the number "8", click the
> number pair "0-9". The pane on the right side will change to show pics
> of all the cars currently in use for that number range (0 through 9).
> Well lookie there, someone already has the number "8" reserved. How can
> you tell? Because there is either a paintjob shown (with someone's name
> above it) or there's a white rectangle with a hand-drawn cartoon car
> indicating that no paintjob has been submitted yet.

> It's not that freakin hard.

> The next easiest thing I can do is just assign the damn car numbers, and
> I really don't feel like doing that.

> > -Larry

> > > > "Larry" said
> > > > > I don't have a special car.

> > > > > You mean it's not showing up as the red #8? I always thought it
did
> > :)

> > > > > What numbers are available. I can change, no problem.

> > > > > This is an area of NR I don't really follow or understand.

> > > > > > See http://www.paddedwall.org/rascar for availibe numbers..

> > > > I'm pretty sure that if you ask John kindly he'll find a nice
looking
> > car
> > > > for you :-)
> > > > If not - talk to me and I'll try and help you.

> > > You can't use the #8 unless you're really a guy named Travis Lind
> > > (that's who has the number reserved).

> > > Like Ed said, go to the roster page here:

> > > http://www.paddedwall.org/rascar

> > > and find a car number that's not already in use, and let me know here.

> > > --
> > > =========================================================
> > > DeMONS/1 for Nascar Racing 3 & Nascar Legends
> > > http://www.paddedwall.org/demons
> > > DeMONS/2 for Nascar Racing 4 and 2002 Season (in development)
> > > http://www.paddedwall.org/demons2
> > > RASCAR Roster
> > > http://www.paddedwall.org/rascar
> > > Redneck Techno-Biker & "programming deity"
> > > http://www.paddedwall.org/john

> --
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> DeMONS/2 for Nascar Racing 4 and 2002 Season (in development)
> http://www.paddedwall.org/demons2
> RASCAR Roster
> http://www.paddedwall.org/rascar
> Redneck Techno-Biker & "programming deity"
> http://www.paddedwall.org/john
> Barbarian Diecast Collector (460+ cars and counting)
> http://www.paddedwall.org/diecast

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