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by **John Pancoas** » Fri, 07 Jun 2002 01:36:58

True, but "open" racing only works if everyone co-operates........which is
a pretty unrealistic expectation :) All someone needs to do, is ask to be
on an invite list. Then, they race and go from there.

Actually trying to make it _easier_ for him. Doesn't sound like it is
now.

Agreed about ras, but if someone wants to make an ass of themselves about
it, I think most here would side with Eldred. Know I certainly would.

Anyway, probably wouldn't work. But the more complex it gets, the quicker
there won't be any ras races I bet.

-John

> Hi John,

> apart from the fact that your suggestion counterfeits the original idea of
> an open race for everyone on RAS, you're putting quite a bit of pressure
on
> Eldred. As a league admin you know that those not on the invite list might
> not always be easy about it, and since there's no way from keeping them
off
> RAS as well, Eldred would be confronted with that...

> Achim

> ...
> > The way to do it, IMO, is via an invite list. And you have the final
say
> > on who is on it; if someone doesn't like that, race elsewhere, take it
or
> > leave it. You decide if someone gets booted off it, etc. And make it
> > known, them's the rules, they're not up for discussion.
> ...

by **John Pancoas** » Fri, 07 Jun 2002 01:37:44

Yep.

-John

by **Eldre** » Fri, 07 Jun 2002 02:08:46

>Hi John,

>apart from the fact that your suggestion counterfeits the original idea of
>an open race for everyone on RAS, you're putting quite a bit of pressure on
>Eldred. As a league admin you know that those not on the invite list might
>not always be easy about it, and since there's no way from keeping them off
>RAS as well, Eldred would be confronted with that...

Well, there are many league admins who post here. Everyone here doesn't have
the password or 'invite' on their servers, and there aren't any problems.
After all, any serverdude has the right to allow who he wants, WHEN he wants.
I'm all for imposing a few rules, as per Jason's suggestion. There should be
some sanctions for people who *continually* cause incidents.

Eldred
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by **Ed Solhei** » Fri, 07 Jun 2002 01:11:04

Will do... just give me a couple of days and you'll hear from me.
Ok?

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by **Uwe Schuerkam** » Fri, 07 Jun 2002 02:27:54

Agreed, Eldred. I should be possible to run a clean race or two
with the grown-ups from RAS, shouldn't it? Oh, I'm talking
about RAS here.... sorry! ;->

Let's keep it the way it is and try without yellows in Pocono.

Cheers,

uwe

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by **Ed Solhei** » Fri, 07 Jun 2002 04:02:31

Hey Larry!

Just wanted to ask you if you could consider to switch one of the availibe
RASCAR carnumbers - and then upload your car so the rest of us can download
it...

On my PC you just drive around in a blue car with #8 on it.. and according
to our rooster - #8 has been taken.
See http://www.paddedwall.org/rascar for availibe numbers..

Would be so nice to see your real car online :-)
(+ you might want to d/l the carset yourself! :-)

Best regards,

ed_

by **Colin Harri** » Fri, 07 Jun 2002 04:31:48

I didn't know you kept chickens, Ed! :-)

by **Ed Solhei** » Fri, 07 Jun 2002 04:39:39

> "Ed Solheim" said:
> > On my PC you just drive around in a blue car with #8 on it.. and
according
> > to our rooster - #8 has been taken.
> > ed_

> I didn't know you kept chickens, Ed! :-)

Oh, HOLD KJEFT Colin! :-)

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by **Eldre** » Fri, 07 Jun 2002 04:55:53

> Agreed about ras, but if someone wants to make an ass of themselves about
>it, I think most here would side with Eldred. Know I certainly would.

Thanks.
I don't think that an 'invite' list would be clamping down too much. That will
probably happen more sooner than later...

Eldred
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by **Eldre** » Fri, 07 Jun 2002 04:55:53

>Will do... just give me a couple of days and you'll hear from me.
>Ok?

Ok, thanks!

Eldred
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by **Uwe Schuerkam** » Fri, 07 Jun 2002 04:17:45

> Hey Larry!

> Would be so nice to see your real car online :-)

Hey Ed,

wait till you see mine ;-)

BTW, I wonder why the image never made it onto the RASCAR
website...

Cheers,

uwe

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by **Rob Adam** » Fri, 07 Jun 2002 05:17:40

I side with Eldred.

(What are we talking about?)

by **Larr** » Fri, 07 Jun 2002 05:55:13

Won't work. Most of us run Open races too, and LPI is a useless number when
you run open races.

-Larry

> How about a LPI restriction instead?

> /Carl

> > Simmons

> > > >Actully, the only way to REALLY fix the problem is to turn this thing
> > > >into an administered league with a spcific ruleset that everyone must
> > > >adhere to, along with an access-restricted server (through an invite
> > > >file). Like I stated earlier (and possibly in another thread),
Eldred
> > > >isn't up for that (and I really can't blame him).

> > > Do we really need *another* league? Aren't there enough out there for
> > people
> > > who want the organized competition? There are probably 10 or more
> > different
> > > leagues that run every day... Just guessing, but there have to be a
> > COUPLE
> > > every day.

> > > Eldred

> > The way to do it, IMO, is via an invite list. And you have the final
> say
> > on who is on it; if someone doesn't like that, race elsewhere, take it
or
> > leave it. You decide if someone gets booted off it, etc. And make it
> > known, them's the rules, they're not up for discussion.
> > Keeps it simple, easy, etc.
> > It really shouldn't be as involved as this thread.

> > -John

by **Larr** » Fri, 07 Jun 2002 05:56:29

To think, this all started over Eldred turning off Yellows for Pocono :)

-Larry

> True, but "open" racing only works if everyone co-operates........which
is
> a pretty unrealistic expectation :) All someone needs to do, is ask to
be
> on an invite list. Then, they race and go from there.

> Actually trying to make it _easier_ for him. Doesn't sound like it is
> now.

> Agreed about ras, but if someone wants to make an ass of themselves
about
> it, I think most here would side with Eldred. Know I certainly would.

> Anyway, probably wouldn't work. But the more complex it gets, the
quicker
> there won't be any ras races I bet.

> -John

> > Hi John,

> > apart from the fact that your suggestion counterfeits the original idea
of
> > an open race for everyone on RAS, you're putting quite a bit of pressure
> on
> > Eldred. As a league admin you know that those not on the invite list
might
> > not always be easy about it, and since there's no way from keeping them
> off
> > RAS as well, Eldred would be confronted with that...

> > Achim

> > ...
> > > The way to do it, IMO, is via an invite list. And you have the final
> say
> > > on who is on it; if someone doesn't like that, race elsewhere, take it
> or
> > > leave it. You decide if someone gets booted off it, etc. And make it
> > > known, them's the rules, they're not up for discussion.
> > ...

by **Larr** » Fri, 07 Jun 2002 05:57:03

Ditto.

-Larry

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