rec.autos.simulators

GPL force feedback

Tim Wheatle

GPL force feedback

by Tim Wheatle » Sat, 10 Jul 1999 04:00:00

hmm..... what wheel do you have? doesn't sound like a good one, it is great
on mine :)
Andre Warrin

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by Andre Warrin » Sat, 10 Jul 1999 04:00:00

Well, if the wheel pulls to the right, you're driving a sharp
left-bend corner. If the wheel pulls to the left, you're driving a
sharp right-bend corner. And if the wheel shakes wildly, you better
get on the road back again...

I think the ff is fantastic!

Andre

On Sat, 10 Jul 1999 00:47:18 +0800, "Roger Lai"


>Hey guys,

>Got the patch, played with the force feedback. What do the different forces
>actually mean? I can't figure out what each wheel shake means what.

>Roger


Chris Schlette

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by Chris Schlette » Sat, 10 Jul 1999 04:00:00

Except on those $1000 ECCI wheels. Or even $300 TSW/TSW2 wheels. ;)

Scottie Smit

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by Scottie Smit » Sat, 10 Jul 1999 04:00:00

There isn't a FF wheel made today that I would trade my ECCI for. In fact
the only way that I'll ever be separated from my ECCI is to upgrade to a
newer ECCI:) I bet the TSW owners feel the same way.

You'll always be happy with your Yugo until you try a Ferrari. When you do
you'll realize what you've been missing:)

Scottie


>> I think the ff is fantastic!

>> Andre

>Except on those $1000 ECCI wheels. Or even $300 TSW/TSW2 wheels. ;)

Jo

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by Jo » Sat, 10 Jul 1999 04:00:00


>You'll always be happy with your Yugo until you try a Ferrari. When you do
>you'll realize what you've been missing:)

I'm sure the ECCI wheels are great, but if I were you I'd try to give
1.1 a shot on a asystem with a FF wheel.

Joe McGinn
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Kurt Steinboc

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by Kurt Steinboc » Sat, 10 Jul 1999 04:00:00

That was kind of a cheap shot at TSW and ECCI owners.  Y'all own great
equipment.

But, man oh man, you ought to feel the force once.  You'll be all over ECCI
to get them to implement.  It's sensational.

Kurt


>There isn't a FF wheel made today that I would trade my ECCI for. In fact
>the only way that I'll ever be separated from my ECCI is to upgrade to a
>newer ECCI:) I bet the TSW owners feel the same way.

>You'll always be happy with your Yugo until you try a Ferrari. When you do
>you'll realize what you've been missing:)

>Scottie


>>> I think the ff is fantastic!

>>> Andre

>>Except on those $1000 ECCI wheels. Or even $300 TSW/TSW2 wheels. ;)

Scottie Smit

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by Scottie Smit » Sat, 10 Jul 1999 04:00:00

I don't think the other wheels are "crap" as you put it. The others are
simply not built as well as the ECCI and TSW wheels.

BTW, my first wheel was a TM Nascar Pro, good wheel, just not as good as
ECCI. Sorry if that upsets you, the facts are the facts.

Scottie


Chris Schlette

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by Chris Schlette » Sat, 10 Jul 1999 04:00:00

Go ahead and keep kidding yourself that anything but a ECCI/TSW is "crap",
aka a Yugo.


Randy Cassid

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by Randy Cassid » Sat, 10 Jul 1999 04:00:00



Hmmm.  Just to play the devil's advocate (since the devil is apparently
too cold to do it himself), which would give you a better driving
experience; a fully operational Yugo (whatever that may be :-), or  a
Ferrari that has no engine?

Randy

John Bod

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by John Bod » Sat, 10 Jul 1999 04:00:00

Ah, at last something that ECCI and TSW owners can agree on! <G>

I have access to a Saitek R4 Force wheel, but I find myself seldom
using it -- my TSW/TSW2 wheels are far more precise, and I can turn in
consistently better lap times (and better race times, too).  The FF
effects are neat, and in Viper Racing, they do add an immersive
quality, but there are too many other sensations missing for FF to be
anything more than a neat gimmick, as far as I'm concerned.  Adding in
the Aura Interactor helps fill in some of the blanks left by a FF
wheel, but even with that added in, I'm still not ready to trade in my
TSW.  All in all, I really enjoy sims more with my TSW wheels than I
do with a FF wheel.

I don't have access to the Saitek wheel today (it's out on loan to a
friend -- lucky guy!), so the jury is out on GPL and FF for me, but I
imagine I'll think it's neat up to a point, and slowly drift back to
using the TSW2 full-time (my TSW2 has a nicer wheel than my TSW <G>).

-- JB

On Fri, 9 Jul 1999 14:06:51 -0500, "Scottie Smith"


>There isn't a FF wheel made today that I would trade my ECCI for. In fact
>the only way that I'll ever be separated from my ECCI is to upgrade to a
>newer ECCI:) I bet the TSW owners feel the same way.

>You'll always be happy with your Yugo until you try a Ferrari. When you do
>you'll realize what you've been missing:)

>Scottie


>>> I think the ff is fantastic!

>>> Andre

>>Except on those $1000 ECCI wheels. Or even $300 TSW/TSW2 wheels. ;)

Chris Schlette

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by Chris Schlette » Sat, 10 Jul 1999 04:00:00


And a low blow in return. :)

Music to my ears.

John Bod

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by John Bod » Sat, 10 Jul 1999 04:00:00

On Fri, 09 Jul 1999 19:30:48 GMT, "Randy Cassidy"


>Hmmm.  Just to play the devil's advocate (since the devil is apparently
>too cold to do it himself), which would give you a better driving
>experience; a fully operational Yugo (whatever that may be :-), or  a
>Ferrari that has no engine?

>Randy

Pop quiz:  You meet a hot young lady in a bar and she wants you to
come back to her place -- which line would get you farther:

A) "I can drive if you'd like -- let me bring my Yugo around front."

or:

B) "Can you drive?  My Ferrari's in the shop."

;-)

-- JB

Scottie Smit

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by Scottie Smit » Sat, 10 Jul 1999 04:00:00

Is this a loaded question or what? Either way I answer I hang myself, so I
give<waving white flag>. Man, you're good:)

I'm sure that you guys did an excellent job with the FF in GPL. Papy is the
best. My point is that the FF wheels on the market today are no where no the
quality of a ECCI wheel. Yes, I would like to have a FF wheel but I'm not
willing to trade quality for one feature.

Now, may I ask you a question? Would you trade a Gremlin for a Ferrari just
because the Gremlin had a radio and the Ferrari didn't? Same concept. In the
question you presented to me my choice was a working car or a non working
car and what we're really talking about here is a feature(i.e.. my ECCI
works but does lack a feature).

Scottie


devil is apparently

Scottie Smit

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by Scottie Smit » Sat, 10 Jul 1999 04:00:00

Oops,  lol.  Editor is out too lunch:)

Now, may I ask you a question? Would you trade a Ferrari for a Gremlin just
because the Gremlin had a radio and the Ferrari didn't? Same concept. In the
question you presented to me my choice was a working car or a non working
car and what we're really talking about here is a feature(i.e.. my ECCI
works but does lack a feature).

Scottie

Chris Schlette

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by Chris Schlette » Sat, 10 Jul 1999 04:00:00

Neither, she'll laugh at both of them...first because you have a Yugo,
second because she won't believe your line of "My Ferrari's in the shop".

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