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Bruce Kennewel

OMG: Isle of Man!

by Bruce Kennewel » Fri, 18 Jul 2003 07:09:11

Yes, Ruud. That's about it.

I cannot stand modern F1, for example, and the Aussie V8 series is a
travesty of what  touring car racing used to be like back in the late 1960's
through the 1970's and into the 1980's. Once again, as we old blokes have
seen, it's motor racing tailored for TV.
Because F1 of the mid 1950's through the 1960's is part of my real world I
associate very strongly with it. That was the time, after all, when I
developed an interest in motor racing - F1 in particular.
Jack Brabham becoming world champ also helped to amplify that interest.

It is a known fact amongst those who study human behaviour that the things
and events with which we are most comfortable and with which we have the
closest associations all stem from our formative years, particularly those
between the ages of 10 and 25. After that period we settle into a groove
and, even as the years pass, we look back on our youth with mostly fond
memories....rose coloured glasses, for sure, but that's the way our brains
work.

So that's why I love that period in motor racing, because that's when my
association started.

Now, if N2003 could spin off mods for F1 of the 1950's when those glorious
Lancia, Mercedes, Ferrari, Maserati, BRM, Vanwall etc cars were in the
forefront, I'd become a drooling fool (or drooling more than I do at the
moment).
Or if mods such as the Can-Am of the 1960's and the Trans-Am of the 1960's
were developed, I'd become a gibbering idiot.

I love most of the technology of the present day and if that can be put to
good use in giving us historical simulations, that's fabulous in my book.

Regards,
Bruce.



> Or did you mean that you like the fact that GPL takes place in the past
> (when things were more interesting in some respects), instead of
> referring to current "GPL2" developments?

Bruce Kennewel

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by Bruce Kennewel » Fri, 18 Jul 2003 07:10:25

LOL!
"How I learned To Stop Worrying And Love The Bomb".......right, Dimitri? :)

Bruce.


Bruce Kennewel

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by Bruce Kennewel » Fri, 18 Jul 2003 07:22:17

Aaah! Well, that's totally different then, I'm sure you'd agree.
You THINK that's the reason.
That's how ***, vicious and often damaging rumours start, you know.

And your not liking His Lordship and referring to him as you did irks me
because you make an immediate, on-the-spot determination about the
personality of someone you've never, ever had a conversation with and that
assessment is based on innuendo, gossip and third-party "information".

I don't know what Lord March is like; he could be the Devil Incarnate or the
Angel Gabriel but until I actually met, conversed with and had some on-going
interaction with the person I would keep my mind wide-open.

That's a philosophy which has stood me in good stead all my *** life, in
both business and personal relationships.

Bruce.


Bruce Kennewel

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by Bruce Kennewel » Fri, 18 Jul 2003 07:32:23

Speaking of pubs.........

At one of the races at Longford (Tasmania) back in the 1950's, Lex
Davidson's car conked out at the corner on which the Longford pub stood, so
Lex hopped out, went into the bar and spent the rest of the race having a
few beers and spectating from a window!
http://big.business.8m.com/cgi-bin/i/Retro/Images/Tasman/longf59b.jpg

http://big.business.8m.com/cgi-bin/i/Retro/Images/Tasman/longf59.jpg

http://big.business.8m.com/cgi-bin/i/Retro/Images/Tasman/longfrd.jpg

http://big.business.8m.com/cgi-bin/i/Retro/Images/Tasman/longfd.jpg

http://big.business.8m.com/cgi-bin/i/Retro/Images/Tasman/longf59a.jpg

Now THAT is motor racing, folks!

Bruce.


Joachim Trens

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by Joachim Trens » Fri, 18 Jul 2003 07:39:29

http://www.solexoldtimer.de/

:-)


Bruce Kennewel

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by Bruce Kennewel » Fri, 18 Jul 2003 08:37:58

Aaaah!
Now I understand. :)

Bruce.


> http://www.solexoldtimer.de/

> :-)



> > I thought a Solex was a carburettor?
> > Why would it be scary?

> > Bruce.

Haqsa

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by Haqsa » Fri, 18 Jul 2003 10:50:43

Seconded!


Gerry Aitke

OMG: Isle of Man!

by Gerry Aitke » Fri, 18 Jul 2003 15:31:33


> Aaah! Well, that's totally different then, I'm sure you'd agree.
> You THINK that's the reason.
> That's how ***, vicious and often damaging rumours start, you know.

In a free society I'm free to theorize. What's your best guess? Or are
you to shy to form an opinion on this issue?

I don't like his views, which, BTW, are in the public domain. He has
been exhibited a few traits of ***ism over the years. I think GWB is a
*** too, never met the chap of course, but I still think he's a draft
dodging ***. Although I don't know for sure he dodged the draft, I only
heard it third hand!

So you don't know if he's a *** or not. But your happy to form an
opinion about me, although we've never met!? Your happy to form that
opinion on only what I've posted here?

But in your humble opinion, I'm wrong to pass judgment on his Lordship
formed on what he has written and done over the years, it that right, is
that your POV?

So Hitler wasn't evil, IYO, because the facts are all third party? You
never met the chap, don't forget!

Oh yeah, also remember that I lives near Goodwood for the first twenty
years of my life!

Bruce Kennewel

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by Bruce Kennewel » Fri, 18 Jul 2003 15:49:04

Who's "GWB", Gerry?

As for the rest of your post, as you say, you're entitled to your opinions,
certainly.
It's how you go about forming them that may be open to question.

I have no opinion on Lord March; I know less about him than I do about Kim
Il Sung.

And I said that your were exhibiting some ***ish traits....not that you
*are* one. A big difference, old chap.

I have no opinion of you - for all I know you could be a 22 year old female
mouldscraper who collects butterflies and likes crocheting. Then again you
might well be the 65 year-old gatekeeper at Goodwood and have a beef about
the Lord.
There is no way of knowing and that's a reason why I do NOT form opinions
about those I come across on the 'net: I will critique what they *SAY*, not
who or what they might (or might not) be.

Bruce.

Steve Smit

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by Steve Smit » Fri, 18 Jul 2003 21:18:41

There have only been a couple of scratch-built N2003 tracks.  Most are
conversions.  I'm guessing most track designers are waiting for the
track-building tools alledgedly part of the forthcoming N2003 patch.


> Thanks for the explanation. I wasn't construing anything btw, I was just
> asking because I hadn't understood.

> As for the longer add-on tracks - I'd guess the longer the track, the
longer
> it takes to create the track and all the environment involved. Maybe N2k3
> simply isn't hasn't been available for long enough time for someone to
> already have created a really long track for N2k3 - considering that IoM
> took a year to create, and anyone creating for N2k3 will first have to
learn
> how to make tracks for this sim as well.

> Achim



> ...
> > NR2003", as it was made for GPL.  I haven't seen a USER-
> > made track that long so far-all are under 5 miles.  I'll ask this
> > on the Pits board where I'm sure to get a straight answer... :-p

Steve Smit

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by Steve Smit » Fri, 18 Jul 2003 21:19:50

Thirded!


> Seconded!



> > Now, if N2003 could spin off mods for F1 of the 1950's when those
glorious
> > Lancia, Mercedes, Ferrari, Maserati, BRM, Vanwall etc cars were in the
> > forefront, I'd become a drooling fool (or drooling more than I do at the
> > moment).
> > Or if mods such as the Can-Am of the 1960's and the Trans-Am of the
1960's
> > were developed, I'd become a gibbering idiot.

Steve Smit

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by Steve Smit » Fri, 18 Jul 2003 21:25:16

Don't click on these images unless you love pop-ups.  Great piccies, tho.
Longford looks to be one of the few tracks left that would make a sterling
(NOT stirling!) addition to GPL.


> Speaking of pubs.........

> At one of the races at Longford (Tasmania) back in the 1950's, Lex
> Davidson's car conked out at the corner on which the Longford pub stood,
so
> Lex hopped out, went into the bar and spent the rest of the race having a
> few beers and spectating from a window!
> http://big.business.8m.com/cgi-bin/i/Retro/Images/Tasman/longf59b.jpg

> http://big.business.8m.com/cgi-bin/i/Retro/Images/Tasman/longf59.jpg

> http://big.business.8m.com/cgi-bin/i/Retro/Images/Tasman/longfrd.jpg

> http://big.business.8m.com/cgi-bin/i/Retro/Images/Tasman/longfd.jpg

> http://big.business.8m.com/cgi-bin/i/Retro/Images/Tasman/longf59a.jpg

> Now THAT is motor racing, folks!

> Bruce.



> > Exactly - it's like a higher-speed Nurburgring...with pubs.

Joachim Trens

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by Joachim Trens » Fri, 18 Jul 2003 23:19:24

Steve, weren't most of these ovals, except Bathurst and Queensland? I.e.,
most of these scratch built tracks won't exceed the 5 mile limit because,
well, because ovals don't get that long? :-)

Achim


Gerry Aitke

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by Gerry Aitke » Sat, 19 Jul 2003 00:51:45

Bruce

You're clearly one of the world's great undiscovered philosophers!

Gerry

Mark Daviso

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by Mark Daviso » Sat, 19 Jul 2003 04:07:50

And wouldn't it be nice to have this TT circuit ready and running for those
car...

;-)

Regards,

Mark


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