rec.autos.simulators

OMG: Isle of Man!

Gerry Aitke

OMG: Isle of Man!

by Gerry Aitke » Thu, 17 Jul 2003 02:35:53


> He says conversions need his approval, if I understand this correctly?

Just out of interest, and not wanting to stir up a hornets nest, are the
  rights to the real TT circuit owned by anyone?

Gerry

Malc

OMG: Isle of Man!

by Malc » Thu, 17 Jul 2003 04:32:19



> > He says conversions need his approval, if I understand this correctly?

> Just out of interest, and not wanting to stir up a hornets nest, are the
>   rights to the real TT circuit owned by anyone?

I sometimes wonder that about 3rd party tracks too, but I don't worry too
much about it, and I guess the track makers know what they're doing ;-)

The IOM circuit is a public road course except for about 50ft of someone's
driveway iirc, so I doubt anyone will be bothered, plus technically it's not
the IOM, so in this particular case it wouldn't be an issue anyway.

Damn well looks like it though ;-)

Malc.

Gerry Aitke

OMG: Isle of Man!

by Gerry Aitke » Thu, 17 Jul 2003 04:50:26





>>>He says conversions need his approval, if I understand this correctly?

>>Just out of interest, and not wanting to stir up a hornets nest, are the
>>  rights to the real TT circuit owned by anyone?

> I sometimes wonder that about 3rd party tracks too, but I don't worry too
> much about it, and I guess the track makers know what they're doing ;-)

> The IOM circuit is a public road course except for about 50ft of someone's
> driveway iirc, so I doubt anyone will be bothered, plus technically it's not
> the IOM, so in this particular case it wouldn't be an issue anyway.

> Damn well looks like it though ;-)

> Malc.

Oh of course, public roads! You're right.

I went to Goodwood festival os speed last year, and there was a GPL
stand there with some BRD racing frames setup with computers running GPL
  and a version of the goodwood hill climb course. I asked if the track
was being released to the public, but was told Lord March had banned any
public use!

Tight git! Maybe he thought sony would give him a better deal, inbred
***! I'll never go to another FOS, it's a rip-off in my opinion.

Gerry

Joachim Trens

OMG: Isle of Man!

by Joachim Trens » Thu, 17 Jul 2003 06:14:36

I have no idea. However, I agree with the others, it's all public roads.
Someone might own the name, but probably not the track.

Achim



> > He says conversions need his approval, if I understand this correctly?

> Just out of interest, and not wanting to stir up a hornets nest, are the
>   rights to the real TT circuit owned by anyone?

> Gerry

Goy Larse

OMG: Isle of Man!

by Goy Larse » Thu, 17 Jul 2003 06:46:00


> That doesn't mean it's a good thing to do, though, does it? :-)

> I still remember with awe and fascination the small yellow Lotus cars racing
> against Opel Diplomats, the modified Fiats, Cobras (some of them drove home
> on the public streets after the race), the Triumphs, Austin Healeys or MG's
> and all the others race around the Norisring in the era ~40 years ago. I can
> actually still see some of the racing scenes before me. And I can hear the
> awesome sounds of I forget what they were called at the time - prototypes?
> Single-seaters with a sound that shook your bones so deeply you'd bite your
> teeth to prevent them from getting shaken out :-)

> But I'll also recognise when something new and good is coming my way in
> terms of racing, and I'll enjoy it with just as much pleasure as I enjoyed
> those ancient racecars :-)

> Achim

> P.s.: AAMOF, Nascar technology should send pleasant shudders down the spine
> of anyone adoring racing history :-) (no offense to Nascars meant) :-)

Wow, you're almost as old as Bruce aren't you ?

Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy
"goyl at nettx dot no"

http://www.theuspits.com

"A man is only as old as the woman he feels........"
--Groucho Marx--

Bruce Kennewel

OMG: Isle of Man!

by Bruce Kennewel » Thu, 17 Jul 2003 06:46:17

See next couple of posts in this thread, Carl.

Bruce.


Bruce Kennewel

OMG: Isle of Man!

by Bruce Kennewel » Thu, 17 Jul 2003 06:55:24

I'd say that there's probably little chance of that happening, Joachim.
I've dabbled in on-line racing but, due to personal time constraints,
usually end up giving it away. RASCAR is the most recent example.

I "drive" for the entertainment and if the AI is half reasonable, that's
fine by me.
In GPL I get the vast majority of my pleasure simply by the excellence of
tracks such as IoM.

But your point is valid - about converting IoM. But then so is that of the
person who created it and I endorse his personal wishes concerning no NASCAR
tin on the course.
You never know - if someone creates a superb mod for historic GP cars he
might well change his mind.

Bruce.

Bruce Kennewel

OMG: Isle of Man!

by Bruce Kennewel » Thu, 17 Jul 2003 07:02:31

Sad?
Hmmm.....maybe, Mark.
But then so would be the situation of someone "raping" the creation of one
simply to satisfy their own desires, I s'pose.

I'm not "happy about restricted choice", Mark, I'm happy to support someone
who doesn't want their work bastardised because they prefer not to have that
happen.
And as one who has some artistic ability, I can understand from where Jim is
coming.

Bruce.


Bruce Kennewel

OMG: Isle of Man!

by Bruce Kennewel » Thu, 17 Jul 2003 07:08:07

Or maybe he didn't want it commercialised, bastardised and any other "-ised"
that you care to insert.

If anyone is a "***" (which down here is slang for the female sex organ),
I'd say that you're exhibiting a few traits with that post.

Bruce.


Bruce Kennewel

OMG: Isle of Man!

by Bruce Kennewel » Thu, 17 Jul 2003 07:15:24

Correct.
Some difference between the meaning of that clause and saying that "he
wouldn't do it himself".

Bruce.


Joachim Trens

OMG: Isle of Man!

by Joachim Trens » Thu, 17 Jul 2003 07:20:18

I have no idea how old Bruce is. However, I certainly _look_ younger than
you <g>

Achim


...

Joachim Trens

OMG: Isle of Man!

by Joachim Trens » Thu, 17 Jul 2003 07:22:09

Doesn't mean it's never gonna be converted either, right? ;-)

Achim


Goy Larse

OMG: Isle of Man!

by Goy Larse » Thu, 17 Jul 2003 07:27:46


> I have no idea how old Bruce is. However, I certainly _look_ younger than
> you <g>

Wouldn't surprise me if it were true.....:-)

Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy
"goyl at nettx dot no"

http://www.theuspits.com

"A man is only as old as the woman he feels........"
--Groucho Marx--

John DiFoo

OMG: Isle of Man!

by John DiFoo » Thu, 17 Jul 2003 07:32:20

On Mon, 14 Jul 2003 22:34:25 +0300, "Mika Takala"


>> Do such weird things happen if a NR2003 track is
>> too long?  The hard limit (5 miles) has been repealed,
>> yes, but is there a 'soft' limit too?  Aside from lag on
>> such a memory hog of course...

>> John DiFool

>Nascar Racing 2003 does not have a length limit on tracks.

Duhh... :-p  If you will read my question more carefully,
I was wondering if there was a point in NR2003 where
the game engine starts getting wonky if the track is
too long.  No addon tracks for NR'03 exceed 5 miles
(currently), I presume because the track designers
didn't know about the hard limit going bye-bye until
right before the game was released 6 months ago.
Yes the 'Ring runs fine (if you have sufficient RAM,
natch).

      JD

John DiFoo

OMG: Isle of Man!

by John DiFoo » Thu, 17 Jul 2003 07:42:08

On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 12:31:37 GMT, "Steve Smith"


>Yeah, the seascape coming down into Douglas is incredible!  Rarely have
>there been any ocean views in GPL (E. London is the only example I can think
>of, altho there have been others in Papy sims: Detroit, Cleveland, Surfers).
>It looks like it took a thousand monks a thousand years to finish all the
>details.  Entire villages!  It reminds me of the scenery in Mobil 1 Rally
>Championship.  The textures!  The colors!  It's the polar opposite of what
>Alison Hine once coldly dismissed as "tree wallpaper" in some lame fantasy
>track.  What a lovely romp!  I don't think there's ever been as magnificent
>a track for GPL...including the original 11.

        The beauty of the track goes without saying.

        It's a pain in the *ss to drive tho (and I mean that in the
best possible way!) because oftentimes you are having to brake
while in a turn to make the next (slower) corner, and for someone
hopeless like me I'm constantly spinning out because of how
braking affects a car which is turning.  For the aliens out there
this certainly isn't a problem...

        JD


rec.autos.simulators is a usenet newsgroup formed in December, 1993. As this group was always unmoderated there may be some spam or off topic articles included. Some links do point back to racesimcentral.net as we could not validate the original address. Please report any pages that you believe warrant deletion from this archive (include the link in your email). RaceSimCentral.net is in no way responsible and does not endorse any of the content herein.