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by **m.seer** » Wed, 26 Apr 2000 04:00:00

ROTFLOL

MS

> A _STINGER_, for Christ's sake!!!! You want the cops to take out a
fleeing
> car with a MISSILE?!!!

> Only kidding, Mark! :-)

> --
> Regards,
> Bruce Kennewell,
> Canberra, Australia.
> ---------------------------

> > If I knew what I was talking about......

> > I'll tell you what I do know.
> > At 20 mph, a child has a 90% probability of surviving an impact with a
> car.
> > At 35 mph, a child stands a 5% chance of surviving an impact with a
motor
> > vehicle.
> > At 40mph, a child surviving an impact with a car is an extreme rarity.

> > If the police or any body else have total mindreading as a prerequisite
> > skill and can account for the unforeseen in 100% of cases EG. children
> > running out from behind parked cars, driveways, concealed entrances and
> the
> > like then I don't know what I'm talking about I guess.

> > There are far safer ways of immobilising a car in this day and age. Ever
> > heard of a device called a stinger?

> > MS

> > > > > Talking about the Police and going wildly off topic, the US Police
> > forces
> > > > > need to learn a thing or two about road safety, pushing the rear
of
> > the
> > > > > pursued car sideways to induce a fishtail at high speed is
> absolutely
> > > > > disgraceful. I'd be surprised if no one has been killed, an
innocent
> > > > > bystander at that !! :(

> > > > LOL. I have to say that in the age of the helicopter "spy in the
sky,
> > it's
> > > > all a bit histrionic isn't it?

> > > It might be, if you knew what you were talking about. That
> > > maneuver is almost always done at very low speed, just after
> > > rounding a 90 degree corner. I have only rarely seen it
> > > done at more than 30 or 40 MPH, and never at anything that
> > > could be considered "high speed".

> > > --
> > > pd

by **David R. Ericso** » Wed, 26 Apr 2000 04:00:00

So I guess we should all drive 20mph or under... because a child could run out
from behind a parked car, driveway or some obscure place and onto the road!!
Your argument doesn't make sense. What Pat is trying to point out is that by
doing the manuever at 30-40mph coming out of a sharp corner, they spin the car
around on the road surface so as not to send the other car off the road. It
makes total sense to me.

Dave Ericson
MomoBoy online
JDB Racing

> If I knew what I was talking about......

> I'll tell you what I do know.
> At 20 mph, a child has a 90% probability of surviving an impact with a car.
> At 35 mph, a child stands a 5% chance of surviving an impact with a motor
> vehicle.
> At 40mph, a child surviving an impact with a car is an extreme rarity.

> If the police or any body else have total mindreading as a prerequisite
> skill and can account for the unforeseen in 100% of cases EG. children
> running out from behind parked cars, driveways, concealed entrances and the
> like then I don't know what I'm talking about I guess.

> There are far safer ways of immobilising a car in this day and age. Ever
> heard of a device called a stinger?

> MS

> > > > Talking about the Police and going wildly off topic, the US Police
> forces
> > > > need to learn a thing or two about road safety, pushing the rear of
> the
> > > > pursued car sideways to induce a fishtail at high speed is absolutely
> > > > disgraceful. I'd be surprised if no one has been killed, an innocent
> > > > bystander at that !! :(

> > > LOL. I have to say that in the age of the helicopter "spy in the sky,
> it's
> > > all a bit histrionic isn't it?

> > It might be, if you knew what you were talking about. That
> > maneuver is almost always done at very low speed, just after
> > rounding a 90 degree corner. I have only rarely seen it
> > done at more than 30 or 40 MPH, and never at anything that
> > could be considered "high speed".

> > --
> > pd

by **m.seer** » Wed, 26 Apr 2000 04:00:00

Not at all. A driver in control of his vehicle will have time to see things
if he is being observant, anticipate and deviate from his course and speed.
A car that is spinning has no chance of doing this in my humble opinion.

obscure place and onto the road!! Your argument doesn't make sense

I used the child scenario as a specific example. Given time, I'm sure that I
could think of 1001 other instances where an out of control spinning car
could be more than just a slight case of tyresmoke accompanying a simple
rotation.

. What Pat is trying to point out is that by

30 to 40 mph out of a sharp 90 degree corner sounds like a fair*** of
speed to me.

car off the road. It

On British TV, I have seen this manoeuvre being performed on vehicles
travelling in excess of 55 mph.

Dave, I'm not going to get into any protracted argument over this issue.
Let's just agree to disagree.

Cheers mate

MS

by **Bruce Kennewel** » Thu, 27 Apr 2000 04:00:00

It wasn't a bad line for an old bloke, was it?!! (If I say so myself :-))

--
Regards,
Bruce Kennewell,
Canberra, Australia.
---------------------------

> ROTFLOL

> MS

> > A _STINGER_, for Christ's sake!!!! You want the cops to take out a
> fleeing
> > car with a MISSILE?!!!

by **m.seer** » Thu, 27 Apr 2000 04:00:00

Speaking of which, It's high time we started to think about how we are going
to celebrate your 84th birthday as an when it comes :-)

MS

> It wasn't a bad line for an old bloke, was it?!! (If I say so myself :-))

> --
> Regards,
> Bruce Kennewell,
> Canberra, Australia.
> ---------------------------

> > ROTFLOL

> > MS

> > > A _STINGER_, for Christ's sake!!!! You want the cops to take out a
> > fleeing
> > > car with a MISSILE?!!!

by **Dave Henri** » Tue, 02 May 2000 04:00:00

> Speaking of which, It's high time we started to think about how we are going
> to celebrate your 84th birthday as an when it comes :-)

> MS

I just don't see how we can get a big bash put together by next week!
dave ;) henrie

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