rec.autos.simulators

Appreciated. Although I still think it's ***y stupid that you have to fix
it in the first place. Why don't it just WORK..!

Ice D

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Guys,

[...]

I ran DXTweak, and found that the pedals sit at a value of 63, and this
reduces to 0 as they are pressed.

After a bit of fiddling, I adjusted the centre value to be 62, and the
pedals now work perfectly over their entire range.

So, the rule seems to be: set the centre value for each pedal to be one
value away from the value you get when the pedals are not pressed. I.e. if
the range is 0 -> 100, set the centre at 1, if it's 63 -> 0, set the centre
to 62.

Does anyone have any EA contacts, to give them this information, so that it
can be in the proper patch? Hmmm.... actually, they should be convinced that
they can't release a sim like this without it's own calibration routine,
anyway...

I can now lock the brakes on the default setup, I have no more spins for no
apparent reason, and I found a bonus. Doesn't really make a difference, but
it's well cool...

Sitting on the grid at the start, revving the engine, I noticed that the
vibration changes as the revs do!

This sim has now taken GPL's crown IMO.
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<snip dxtweak trick for F1 2001>

Anyone know how to make this work in Win2000 or XP ? I want to get
rid of that WinME partition I need ONLY for F1 2001.
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Olav K. Malmin
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Does this tweak affect other games using the MSFF? I'd like to try it,
but I drive everything.

--
Jason Monds
http://www.proracingclub.com - Pro Racing Club! (GPL)
http://www.scprc.com - Stock Car Division of the PRC. (N4, Fun Run Sims)
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Richard, I'm going to post this in my forums if that's OK I have a member
that was asking how to resolve this exact problem.
I'll give you credit of course.
Thanks
Ian

Nice one Richard,

thanks!

James

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Guys,

I don't care about the credit for this. Someone else gave me the idea, and I
came up with the values, but I think this needs a new thread to get the
information out to those who need it.

I have an MSFF gameport version, but I'm sure this will work for any other
controllers with the same problem.

I have set the pedals to split axes, but then F1 2001 has a huge deadzone on
the pedals - the wheel is fine. The pedals don't do anything until they are
50% depressed.

Well, I say deadzone, but actually it's not. I used the deadzone tweaker and
it made no difference. Anyway, if it was a deadzone problem, why is the
wheel OK?

I ran DXTweak, and found that the pedals sit at a value of 63, and this
reduces to 0 as they are pressed.

After a bit of fiddling, I adjusted the centre value to be 62, and the
pedals now work perfectly over their entire range.

So, the rule seems to be: set the centre value for each pedal to be one
value away from the value you get when the pedals are not pressed. I.e. if
the range is 0 -> 100, set the centre at 1, if it's 63 -> 0, set the centre
to 62.

Does anyone have any EA contacts, to give them this information, so that it
can be in the proper patch? Hmmm.... actually, they should be convinced that
they can't release a sim like this without it's own calibration routine,
anyway...

I can now lock the brakes on the default setup, I have no more spins for no
apparent reason, and I found a bonus. Doesn't really make a difference, but
it's well cool...

Sitting on the grid at the start, revving the engine, I noticed that the
vibration changes as the revs do!

This sim has now taken GPL's crown IMO.

R.

PS. Does DXTweak run agonisingly slowly for everyone, or is it just my
system?

What is the settings that you used in the dxtweaker. I have 3 different
settings, min center and max.. I tried messing with the settings and f**ked
it all up...

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Guys,

I don't care about the credit for this. Someone else gave me the idea, and I
came up with the values, but I think this needs a new thread to get the
information out to those who need it.

I have an MSFF gameport version, but I'm sure this will work for any other
controllers with the same problem.

I have set the pedals to split axes, but then F1 2001 has a huge deadzone on
the pedals - the wheel is fine. The pedals don't do anything until they are
50% depressed.

Well, I say deadzone, but actually it's not. I used the deadzone tweaker and
it made no difference. Anyway, if it was a deadzone problem, why is the
wheel OK?

I ran DXTweak, and found that the pedals sit at a value of 63, and this
reduces to 0 as they are pressed.

After a bit of fiddling, I adjusted the centre value to be 62, and the
pedals now work perfectly over their entire range.

So, the rule seems to be: set the centre value for each pedal to be one
value away from the value you get when the pedals are not pressed. I.e. if
the range is 0 -> 100, set the centre at 1, if it's 63 -> 0, set the centre
to 62.

Does anyone have any EA contacts, to give them this information, so that it
can be in the proper patch? Hmmm.... actually, they should be convinced that
they can't release a sim like this without it's own calibration routine,
anyway...

I can now lock the brakes on the default setup, I have no more spins for no
apparent reason, and I found a bonus. Doesn't really make a difference, but
it's well cool...

Sitting on the grid at the start, revving the engine, I noticed that the
vibration changes as the revs do!

This sim has now taken GPL's crown IMO.

R.

PS. Does DXTweak run agonisingly slowly for everyone, or is it just my
system?

I posted this fix the day the patch was released, but
who's counting? :)

--
Pat Dotson

It doesn't affect N4 or GPL.  That's all I've tried it with
since changing the values with DXtweak months ago.

--
Pat Dotson

Ahh, if the settings aren't permanent I can reboot if they do cause
problems with another program.

--
Jason Monds
http://www.proracingclub.com - Pro Racing Club! (GPL)
http://www.scprc.com - Stock Car Division of the PRC. (N4, Fun Run Sims)
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Too bad none of this works with Act-Labs.  Any changes I make in DXtweaker
to the break and throttle axes effects the steering axis also.  For whatever
reason, DX8, WinME or AL.  DXtweaker just doesn't work.  It's really to bad
too!  Because Act-Labs makes decent hardware.  But, with a company that
makes crappy hardware like Thrustmaster they have a great software like
Thrustmapper.  With thrustmapper you can change the values of the axis and
link them to specific games.  I wish Act-Labs would provide some decent
software for their great products.  A program like thrustmapper would make a
lot of these type of problems a lot easier to solve.

Kurt

you'll have to do it again.

Thrustmapper was a good idea, but it didn't allow me to connect my
Act-Labs Shifter (and keep the Ferrari FF *** Option).  TMapper also
made duplicates if you turned the wheel on/off.

--
Jason Monds
http://www.racesimcentral.net/ - Pro Racing Club! (GPL)
http://www.racesimcentral.net/ - Stock Car Division of the PRC. (N4, Fun Run Sims)
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Nope it screwed it up only for f12k1 all other games ok, even after
rebooting...


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Don't worry about messing up the settings - simply exit DXTweak, and reboot.

If you look at the raw values, you can see what each pedal is set at when
not pressed. With my MSFF gameport this is 63 for both pedals.

Press a pedal all the way down (you may want to do this slowly, so you can
see the values changing, to identify the correct box), and see what the raw
value changes to. My MSFF goes down to 0 on both pedals.

Then, in the boxes on the right hand side, you can see the values for each
axis, and you can adjust the minimum, center, and maximum values.

With my MSFF the minimum is 63, the center is 31 and the maximum is 0.
Adjust the center value to be 62 for both, then click on close.

Job done - well, 'till you reboot, anyway. When you restart your 'puter,
you'll have to do it again.

Anyone know how to make the change permanent?

R.

You have to make sure that your control configuration doesn't
change.  If after re-boot, windows thinks nothing has changed
in your controller ID's it keeps the DX tweak settings.

For instance, I have an ACT Labs Force RS wheel with the
ACT Labs performance pedals.  They show up as two separate
devices.  The pedals always show up on ID #1 after a reboot.

At first, I kept changing the order to put the wheel first,
because all my sims are configured that way.  Everytime I
rebooted after changing ID's, DXtweak settings were lost.

I finally just left the pedals on ID#1 and the wheel on #2,
then re-configured controls in all my sims.  After that,
I've never had to reset DXtweak.

Good luck,

Pat Dotson

DXtweak allows you to clear all calibration data and
start over.  I think this clear all control devices,
so you have to go back and add your wheel back or
whatever.

--
Pat Dotson

It does work with ACT Labs stuff.  I have a Force RS wheel
with performance pedals, and it works fine.

--
Pat Dotson