rec.autos.simulators

>   How many 'Modern' F1 sims are out there?  Criminey!  Why would
Papyrus
> want to spend two-four years coding something that has to compete with
> almost a half dozen products?  And of those, 3 are published by major
> distributors with Name brand identity already established.  So you see
there
> is really no REASON for Papyrus to venture into such crowded waters.
A gem
> covered in a field of rocks is just another rock.
> Of course I said this about the Athlon Patch for GPL as well,<<so you
can
> see I am not a good indicator>>...."we'd NEVER see such a patch," I
> said...hehehe(pssst I also said we'd never see another CART title from
> Papyrus....can Lightning Strike Thrice?)
>   btw...that gts is letting you down some AND you can up that AMD
several
> levels, everybit helps.
> also have you been running F12k+1 in a window?  Check out the various
> threads going on.
> dave henrie


> > Well, ..., I have tried to get in love to F1 2001...
> > There are a couple of things that harm me in this project:

> > Making the sim work fluently seems to be a big problem:
> > getting over 10fps at the start of Suzuka seems to demand
> > a lot of work... And my system is not a low end one:
> > AMD 1.13, GF2 GTS (driver 12.90), ...

> > An ff would be nice! A good ff, not any "EA ff" ..... :-/

> > Just for fun I tried the good old N4 (and of course GPL :-)
> > and once again I found the professionalism, of how well
> > Papyrus/Sierra make their products!!!

> > Is there really no hope that they would make a modern F1
> > simulator based on the engines (physics, graphics...) of
> > N4 (and thus GPL)???

> > Do you hear me, Papy/Sierra? Listen, please!     :-)

> > Arto
> > --
> > http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/wikla/music.html

> > Is there really no hope that they would make a modern F1  simulator
based
> > on the engines (physics, graphics...) of N4 (and thus GPL)???

> No, no, no!  Modern F1 is boring!!!  :-)  And the market is saturated.

> What about using the N4/GPL engine to create a super-doopa touring car
game?
> We could have 'BTC Touring[*]', Super Touring, Super Production, DTM, Oz
V8
> classes etc.

> Heck, if the physics were up to the N4/GPL standard, I'd pay 50ukp or more
> for a 'BTC Touring' game, even if it only had a couple of tracks!!!

> > Do you hear me, Papy/Sierra? Listen, please!     :-)

> Nah... they can listen to me!  ;-)

> > What about using the N4/GPL engine to create a super-doopa touring car
> > game? We could have 'BTC Touring[*]', Super Touring, Super Production,
> > DTM, Oz V8 classes etc.

> > Heck, if the physics were up to the N4/GPL standard, I'd pay 50ukp or
> > more for a 'BTC Touring' game, even if it only had a couple of tracks!!!

> IF!  they could add some grip to the cars, so they could bounce off each
> other without spinning, and IF they could add side mirrors that could be
> knocked off

> > > What about using the N4/GPL engine to create a super-doopa touring car
> > > game? We could have 'BTC Touring[*]', Super Touring, Super Production,
> > > DTM, Oz V8 classes etc.

> > > Heck, if the physics were up to the N4/GPL standard, I'd pay 50ukp or
> > > more for a 'BTC Touring' game, even if it only had a couple of
tracks!!!

> > IF!  they could add some grip to the cars, so they could bounce off each
> > other without spinning, and IF they could add side mirrors that could be
> > knocked off

> Pretty simple stuff.  I'd even be happy with the existing N4/GPL tracks!

> > and IF the modeled the glory years of BTCC from when Renault, Honda, and
> > Nissan all had stellar teams...THEN...I'd go for it in an instant..

> Oh, the Super Touring cars, eh?  I dunno...  In a way, I'd like to see
> those, but I think the new-for-2001 'BTC Touring' cars would be more fun
to
> drive!

> > (oh and Papy has to figure out how to model track bumps better)

> True!

> --
> Richard.

> "In Penny Lane there is a barber showing photographs."

> [ Richard wants an N4/GPL-based touring car sim! ]

> > They haven't gotten up to speed yet with N4, but they do have most of the
> > GPL tracks converted for use with n3, The TPTCC touring/V8 league at the
> > uspits.com.  It's not a true class series, but a 'one size fits all' type.
> > Due to the limitations of N3.  They will be moving to N4 eventually.  The
> > pits also has a video of the N4 Winston Cup car rumbling around Monaco.

> Hmm... so there could be a 'The Pits Touring Car' add-on for N4?  That would
> be pretty good.  Anyone have any ideas as to when such a thing might appear?