rec.autos.simulators

by **John Metco** » Sat, 09 Mar 2002 12:16:12

hi

I am looking for comparative test between these 2
could anyone point me to a website ??

I have F12000 but hate the awful graphic and jaggies
makes looking ahead a real pain (1024 x 742 )
AI could do with some improvement.

if I wait for F1 2002, How much longer is the wait ??

by **Dave Henri** » Sat, 09 Mar 2002 17:08:30

The jaggies can be taken care of somewhat by using some method of
FSAA(depending upon your card.) The FSAA or Anistrophy will lower your
framerate so be prepared to reduce some graphics.
F1 2002 should be out in May, but don't expect it to have LESS of a
graphic and CPU demand. Games don't get faster by magic.
dave henrie
(get the biggest baddest fastest cpu you can afford.)

by **Damien Smit** » Sat, 09 Mar 2002 17:18:51

May 17 is a date that was being tossed about. Not too far off - probably
worth waiting. I'm anticipating it very eagerly. I'm totally impressed by
the driving model in F12001 and all it really needs for F12002 to be a
classic is some cosmetic and functional additions and improvements. But, if
you're bored in the meantime and see F12001 pretty cheap - don't hesitate.

by **lane** » Sun, 10 Mar 2002 01:07:35

F12001 has a new graphics engine, it's better than F1200, but I suppose it
is not as clean looking as F1RC. F1RC has ***AI, IMO..

by **Larry Lindstro** » Sun, 10 Mar 2002 01:48:45

> > hi

> > I am looking for comparative test between these 2
> > could anyone point me to a website ??

> > I have F12000 but hate the awful graphic and jaggies
> > makes looking ahead a real pain (1024 x 742 )
> > AI could do with some improvement.

> F12001 has a new graphics engine, it's better than F1200, but I suppose it
> is not as clean looking as F1RC. F1RC has ***AI, IMO..

F1RC never made it to my town in the U.S. I started
racing online, NFS/PU, in December and could live without
AI, if there is an active online community.

As I understand it, the AI is the main complaint about
F1RC. I remember reading that the tracks were extremely
accurate. I had the impression that, apart from the AI,
people liked it. I don't remember what was said about the
vehicle physics modeling.

How is the online play? Can F1RC be a great online sim?

Larry

by **Alai** » Sun, 10 Mar 2002 03:01:25

Keep in mind that F1 2001 is very cheap right now and when F1 2002 comes out
it will probably be two to three times the price. I picked up F1 2001 at my
local "Office Depot" for $22.95 CAD (that's $15 US!), at that price, and
with GTMod available as a free add-on, why wait?

by **Dave Henri** » Sun, 10 Mar 2002 12:24:56

> > > hi

> > > I am looking for comparative test between these 2
> > > could anyone point me to a website ??

> > > I have F12000 but hate the awful graphic and jaggies
> > > makes looking ahead a real pain (1024 x 742 )
> > > AI could do with some improvement.

> > F12001 has a new graphics engine, it's better than F1200, but I suppose
it
> > is not as clean looking as F1RC. F1RC has ***AI, IMO..

> F1RC never made it to my town in the U.S. I started
> racing online, NFS/PU, in December and could live without
> AI, if there is an active online community.

> As I understand it, the AI is the main complaint about
> F1RC. I remember reading that the tracks were extremely
> accurate. I had the impression that, apart from the AI,
> people liked it. I don't remember what was said about the
> vehicle physics modeling.

> How is the online play? Can F1RC be a great online sim?

> Larry

NO! F1rc like all the other current F1 titles has a very pitiful
multiplayer component. You CAN run multiplayer, but 4 players is about the
max...F1relay has done a lot of work to improve the F1 multi but it still
SUCKS compared to other types of racing.
dave henrie

by **lane** » Mon, 11 Mar 2002 06:31:04

> F1RC never made it to my town in the U.S. I started
> racing online, NFS/PU, in December and could live without
> AI, if there is an active online community.

> As I understand it, the AI is the main complaint about
> F1RC. I remember reading that the tracks were extremely
> accurate. I had the impression that, apart from the AI,
> people liked it. I don't remember what was said about the
> vehicle physics modeling.

> How is the online play? Can F1RC be a great online sim?

> Larry

I've never tried it online so can't coment. The phyics are not as good as
F12001, IMO. Some people say they are good (accurate?) but to me it felt
like I was floating just above the track with no feeling from the road,
except the rumble strips. F12001 on the other hand gives you lots of
feedback from the road if you are using a FFB wheel. In fact, many people
believe (me included) that F12001 surpasses even GPL in the quality of it's
FFB implementation.

by **Bra** » Mon, 11 Mar 2002 09:19:39

>Keep in mind that F1 2001 is very cheap right now and when F1 2002 comes out
>it will probably be two to three times the price. I picked up F1 2001 at my
>local "Office Depot" for $22.95 CAD (that's $15 US!), at that price, and
>with GTMod available as a free add-on, why wait?

Alain would you help me please with the GT mod? I'm not familiar with
that. I'm awaiting my copy of 2001 in the mail I understand there is a
couple of patches and a no cd add on of some sort never heard of no cd
before either.

Thanks

Brad

by **Alai** » Tue, 12 Mar 2002 05:46:27

Get the EA patches from:
http://www.easportsf1.com/
(Install as directed)
And for GTMod:
http://www.simbin.com
(Go to the forums, you must sign up as a user, find the "Sports Cars" group
of forums and enter the "Official GT Mod Forum". Open the first message
"Announcement" from Ian Bell for instructions.

by **Bra** » Tue, 12 Mar 2002 12:32:12

>Get the EA patches from:
> http://www.easportsf1.com/
> (Install as directed)
>And for GTMod:
> http://www.simbin.com
>(Go to the forums, you must sign up as a user, find the "Sports Cars" group
>of forums and enter the "Official GT Mod Forum". Open the first message
>"Announcement" from Ian Bell for instructions.

I know I know, if everyone posted a thank you every time it would get
all clogged up with thank you posts.......but....but......Thank
you.....

Brad

by **John Metco** » Tue, 12 Mar 2002 13:06:36

hi lane

did the patch for F1RC take care of the crappy AI ?

I have seen some really great horizon shots of
RC and it just helps when you are looking forward
to see the next corner.....

> > hi

> > I am looking for comparative test between these 2
> > could anyone point me to a website ??

> > I have F12000 but hate the awful graphic and
jaggies
> > makes looking ahead a real pain (1024 x 742 )
> > AI could do with some improvement.

> F12001 has a new graphics engine, it's better than

F1200, but I suppose it

by **John Metco** » Tue, 12 Mar 2002 20:50:27

hi lane

how did the latest patch from UBISOFT helped
the AI on F1RC ???

I was quite startled to read about POWERVR in the
patch readme........
is the game that old ???

> > hi

> > I am looking for comparative test between these 2
> > could anyone point me to a website ??

> > I have F12000 but hate the awful graphic and
jaggies
> > makes looking ahead a real pain (1024 x 742 )
> > AI could do with some improvement.

> F12001 has a new graphics engine, it's better than

F1200, but I suppose it

by **ymenar** » Wed, 13 Mar 2002 17:07:28

> did the patch for F1RC take care of the crappy AI ?

Yes, the patch fixed every major problem ever in F1RC and made it the
equivalent of GPL. Tehehe

(there was never a patch for it, we were lied and completely treated like
arses by them)

Here is a great quote from an Ubi rep : "Ubi Soft guarantees that the patch
will be out before the release of the sequel". LOL!

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Corporation - helping America into the New World...

by **Jason Mond** » Thu, 14 Mar 2002 01:28:17

PowerVR makes the KyroII which is quite a nice DX7 card. I wouldn't
hesitate in getting a KyroIII because of their great drivers, speed and
price :)

http://www.pvrdev.com/

> I was quite startled to read about POWERVR in the
> patch readme........
> is the game that old ???

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