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by **John Simmon** » Fri, 25 Jul 2003 06:38:59

> > > Joachim, this is sort of off the topic but what ever became of
> > >John Wallace? I was looking through some things the other day
> > >(house cleaning) and I found a message from him I had printed
> > >out. Sort of miss his contributions.

> > > Pete

> > That makes me feel wierd - first time I've stopped by r.a.s. in ages,
> > and read the above!

> Welcome back John!

> We have missed your sharp wit. In fact I haven't seen many really decent
> arguments (not simple abuse) on here for ages :)

I am truly wounded by that statement, Tony... :)

by **Tony Rickar** » Fri, 25 Jul 2003 06:43:11

> If you're laps down and you want to avoid the tension of a double-
> file restart, a more correct thing to do would be on the "1 more lap
> to green" announcment, pull into the pits and do a drive-through so
> that anyone behind you can do what they want/need to do. That way,
> you could just fall in behind the last car of the longest line, and
> you're all set.

I feel one of my headaches coming on...

It was never like this in Days of Thunder

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by **Tony Rickar** » Fri, 25 Jul 2003 06:52:30

> > Welcome back John!

> > We have missed your sharp wit. In fact I haven't seen many really
decent
> > arguments (not simple abuse) on here for ages :)

> I am truly wounded by that statement, Tony... :)

Sorry John, forgot about your many years chairing the debating society :)

Now anyone got any questions? :)

Cheers!
Tony

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by **Pete** » Fri, 25 Jul 2003 06:41:51

Well I made a prediction a week ago about what might appear in the
upcoming
mods being done for N2003. Well I recieved a few interesting emails and one
of them assured me that not only is the GPL code in N2003 but it has been
for
awhile. I was also informed it would be brought to life.
If you can't think physics perhaps you have blinders on. :-)

Pete

>> A real blast from the past (February 1999) courtesy of Google Groups!

> >You've gotta be kidding me?! The perfect vehicle for delivering a
> >driving sim is a 200mph school bus? I'd rather see a Formula Ford sim,
> >F1, CART or even (if you must have tin-tops) a Touring Car or
> >Sportscar sim. More varied cars, handling, tracks, styles. NASCAR sims
> >are good, but I'd place a whole lot of things in the queue ahead of
> >NASCAR as the perfect vehicle for a new engine. Some sports (like the
> >two mentioned above or rallying) don't have any sim at all yet.

> I agree with you 100% John (again - heck this is getting boring), the GPL
> engine is so good at handling direction changes, braking & acceleration
> effects that enhancements of this engine would not be fully utilised in a
> Nascar sim (except for pit stops & recovering from wrecks).

> Now I know we are going to upset a lot of our friends across the water who
> just love Nascar to bits, but like you I would put Nascar way down the
list
> as a flagship for an auto sim engine.

> The prospect of N3 just doesn't e*** me - I'd rather the resources were
> pumped into ICR3, or any number of open wheel or saloon car racing titles.
> What about on-line rallycross for testing friendships?

> Way off topic - but imagine a Papy sim using the GPL engine based on
famous
> car chases!

> Cheers!

> Tony"

> Not much has changed John?

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by **grub** » Fri, 25 Jul 2003 07:10:25

I kinda feel the same way Eldred.

by **Joachim Trens** » Fri, 25 Jul 2003 07:25:07

Thanks Goy. I'll search this site for signs of Marc.

Achim

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by **Joachim Trens** » Fri, 25 Jul 2003 07:29:13

Sometimes strange things happen :-) - welcome back, John!

And N2k3 together with Noonan's converted road circuits is a must have. In
addition the upcoming patch to N2k3 will open the door for a TransAm mod
with physics appropriate for that car class, and there's a group of people
working on such a mod (Project Wildfire).

One thing you might consider, we're flying IL2-FB online fairly often, with
Roger Wilco for voice comms. This is good fun, too.

Achim

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by **Joachim Trens** » Fri, 25 Jul 2003 07:53:54

You wouldn't nail the throttle, but sometimes you just feel that a little
blip on the throttle will help.

What you call heel and toe, does that imply that the clutch is depressed, or
can that also be done while the clutch is engaged?

Achim

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by **Joachim Trens** » Fri, 25 Jul 2003 07:55:06

I'll gladly withdraw the word 'better' - I simply meant 'easier to use and
hence allowing for lower laptimes' :-)

Achim

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by **Ed Solhei** » Fri, 25 Jul 2003 09:17:22

"John Wallace" said:

I'll be damned.... Look what the cat dragged in...

Welcome back John!

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by **Eldre** » Fri, 25 Jul 2003 09:53:19

>Roof riders may have a wider FOV by default, but it's nothing compared
>to look left/right from the***pit. The advantage is clearly with
>the***pit drivers. Having trouble driving and pushing buttons to
>look around? I do!

Yep, I have problems hitting my shift lever to look left/right(wheel buttons
are up/downshift. And, it cost me a league championship(GPL). I tried to make
a pass for the lead, but couldn't balance the look right while I was scrambling
for traction/steering inputs to make the turn... Had I been in F10 view, I'd
have known that the pass was complete, and probably won the race... :-(

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by **Tim** » Fri, 25 Jul 2003 10:47:21

Sorry, got that backwards bud
:)

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> Post patch? Am I understanding correctly, that even with the new
> patch, a driver with aids turned on is faster than one without? I
> thought the patch would address that? This is very disappointing
> news!

by **Bruce Kennewel** » Fri, 25 Jul 2003 11:05:24

Sorry, but in 1995 Max Moseley (sp?) actually stated publicly - after a
comment made by Jaques Villeneuve - that F1 drivers WEREN'T MEANT TO BE
HAVING "FUN".

In addition to that fact, coaches and officials associated with most of the
Olympic sports - particularly those in which the Europeans have
traditionally excelled (such as gymnastics) - have long held to the credo
that the kids are not there to have "fun".

Sorry, my friend, but the day that professionalism entered what were
traditionally amateur sports, "fun" disappeared out the door at a zillion
miles an hour.

Bruce.

by **Bruce Kennewel** » Fri, 25 Jul 2003 11:06:55

That was because of my liking for history and yes, I KNOW that F1 cars
haven't raced at IoM but in my view they are closer to bikes than are NASCAR
machines. :)

Bruce.

by **frederickso** » Fri, 25 Jul 2003 11:26:07

> >Roof riders may have a wider FOV by default, but it's nothing compared
> >to look left/right from the***pit. The advantage is clearly with
> >the***pit drivers. Having trouble driving and pushing buttons to
> >look around? I do!

> Yep, I have problems hitting my shift lever to look left/right(wheel
buttons
> are up/downshift. And, it cost me a league championship(GPL). I tried to
make
> a pass for the lead, but couldn't balance the look right while I was
scrambling
> for traction/steering inputs to make the turn... Had I been in F10 view,
I'd
> have known that the pass was complete, and probably won the race... :-(

> Eldred
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> homepage)
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