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by **Goy Larse** » Fri, 25 Jul 2003 04:03:26

> > > Joachim, this is sort of off the topic but what ever became of
> > >John Wallace? I was looking through some things the other day
> > >(house cleaning) and I found a message from him I had printed
> > >out. Sort of miss his contributions.

> > > Pete

> > That makes me feel wierd - first time I've stopped by r.a.s. in ages,
> > and read the above!

> Welcome back John!

> We have missed your sharp wit. In fact I haven't seen many really decent
> arguments (not simple abuse) on here for ages :)

Pffft, with Byron Forbes not pitching in, the abuse hasn't been much to
write home about either

Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy
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by **David G Fishe** » Fri, 25 Jul 2003 04:05:14

> > That makes me feel wierd - first time I've stopped by r.a.s. in ages,
> > and read the above!

> > Actually had been out of sims for ages, basically since my industry
> > went into a nosedive and work got too stressful. Recently clicked that
> > stopping doing the things which alleviate stress (sim-racing being
> > one) to have more time to devote to the things which cause stress is
> > "a bad thing".

> > So, reinstalled GPL, bought F1-2002 and added GTR2002, bought F1C, and
> > basically searching around for what a once keen sim-racer should be
> > looking at these days. N2003 sounds good, but open to any suggestions.

> Talk about blast from the past :-)

I remember arguing with him years ago. :-)

David G Fisher

by **Goy Larse** » Fri, 25 Jul 2003 04:09:47

> I remember arguing with him years ago. :-)

I believe that goes without saying David :-)

Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy
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by **Peter Thorwaldsso** » Fri, 25 Jul 2003 04:12:35

Gerry

I am just curious and am in no way saying that you are wrong or so, but why
is it a loophole in the physics when you brake and use the throttle at the
same time? Is it something with GPL that cant handle that? I mean
rallydrivers left brake and use throttle all the time, and i wouldnt be
surprised if they did in the gp-cars back then too?

Peter

by **frederickso** » Fri, 25 Jul 2003 04:25:09

I heard during a pickup race someone was riding the brakes through the turns
at new hampshire while controlling the car with the gas pedal, and getting
great laptimes. I would imagine you would ruin the brakes in real life.

by **Peter Thorwaldsso** » Fri, 25 Jul 2003 05:17:16

Aaahh

Well that makes sense! Im always balancing the car with blips on the
throttle while breaking, but that is in to a turn not all the way through
it. I was just curious of what he was talking about...

Thanks

Peter

by **John Wallac** » Fri, 25 Jul 2003 05:37:36

On Wed, 23 Jul 2003 18:49:24 GMT, "Tony Rickard"

>Welcome back John!

>We have missed your sharp wit. In fact I haven't seen many really decent
>arguments (not simple abuse) on here for ages :)

Thanks Tony, it's kinda fun to "see" everyone again.

I hope to provide as much as possible of the former, and avoid the
latter, but since we're all older and wiser I'm sure we can
behave....!

Any sims you would recommend I look into? Or add-ons for ones I may
know?

Cheers!
John

by **John Wallac** » Fri, 25 Jul 2003 05:40:15

On Wed, 23 Jul 2003 18:55:31 GMT, Ken MacKay

>Might I suggest LFS http://lfs.racesimcentral.com
>and netkar: http://www.drivingitalia.net/sezioni.php?sez=files

Thanks Ken,

I tried Netkar earlier today and, well, I was left pretty much
ungripped. The sim itself looked quite well designed, graphics sound
etc, but the driving felt uninvolving and the handling something to be
driven around. I may have set things up wrong, so I'll probably give
it a whirl again at the weekend.

I haven't seen LFS, so I'll give it a go - thanks!

John

by **John Wallac** » Fri, 25 Jul 2003 05:43:20

On Wed, 23 Jul 2003 21:01:48 +0200, Goy Larsen

>Talk about blast from the past :-)

Hi!

I'm certainly having a blast being passed - I hope I'm gonna get
faster with practice since I'm way slower than I used to be!!

I'm still about the same on a track, so hopefully it's lack of
practice and not my reflexes dulling with age (or dulling with
Cabernet Sauvignon atrophy....)

Cheers!
John

by **John Wallac** » Fri, 25 Jul 2003 05:45:10

On Wed, 23 Jul 2003 15:05:14 -0400, "David G Fisher"

>I remember arguing with him years ago. :-)

Hi David!

I don't remember arguing with you - many debates, discussions and the
odd troll wafted about from each side, but argument? Naaah.

Now that "Honda sucks" guy, what was his name? HE argued!

Cheers!
John

by **Pete** » Fri, 25 Jul 2003 05:38:25

John, great to see you are still around. I have been
accussed of being psychotic but I may have a future
as a psychic.
On monday I was thinking I had to give a friend a call
because I hadn't spoke with her in awhile and I was concerned.
My mother phoned me this morning to tell me she had died
monday afternoon. Regretabley I didn't call.
I think I may go and buy a lottery ticket.
Its funny because I was looking through some old things from
a few years ago and noticed a printout of a discussion you and I were
having about Papyrus and Geoff Crammond.
I still haven't got to Tighnabruaich but I will ones of these days.

Pete

> That makes me feel wierd - first time I've stopped by r.a.s. in ages,
> and read the above!

> Actually had been out of sims for ages, basically since my industry
> went into a nosedive and work got too stressful. Recently clicked that
> stopping doing the things which alleviate stress (sim-racing being
> one) to have more time to devote to the things which cause stress is
> "a bad thing".

> So, reinstalled GPL, bought F1-2002 and added GTR2002, bought F1C, and
> basically searching around for what a once keen sim-racer should be
> looking at these days. N2003 sounds good, but open to any suggestions.

> John

by **Pete** » Fri, 25 Jul 2003 05:43:01

I think it was 2 or 3 years ago I was talking with
Julian Data and he was on ICQ with us. He was working
on a couple of projects as I recall one of them was car
related the other not. But I can't recall the specifics.
I don't talk to Julian anymore but he may still be in
touch with him.

Pete

by **Pete** » Fri, 25 Jul 2003 05:45:48

John, pick up Nascar 2003 and then get David Noonans converter
for the road courses and convert from GPL, Indy Car Racing and the
Nascar tracks. Plus download some of the 3rd party tracks and you'll
be in heaven.

Pete

> That makes me feel wierd - first time I've stopped by r.a.s. in ages,
> and read the above!

> Actually had been out of sims for ages, basically since my industry
> went into a nosedive and work got too stressful. Recently clicked that
> stopping doing the things which alleviate stress (sim-racing being
> one) to have more time to devote to the things which cause stress is
> "a bad thing".

> So, reinstalled GPL, bought F1-2002 and added GTR2002, bought F1C, and
> basically searching around for what a once keen sim-racer should be
> looking at these days. N2003 sounds good, but open to any suggestions.

> John

by **Tony Rickar** » Fri, 25 Jul 2003 06:26:13

> John, pick up Nascar 2003 and then get David Noonans converter
> for the road courses and convert from GPL, Indy Car Racing and the
> Nascar tracks. Plus download some of the 3rd party tracks and you'll
> be in heaven.

A real blast from the past (February 1999) courtesy of Google Groups!

>You've gotta be kidding me?! The perfect vehicle for delivering a
>driving sim is a 200mph school bus? I'd rather see a Formula Ford sim,
>F1, CART or even (if you must have tin-tops) a Touring Car or
>Sportscar sim. More varied cars, handling, tracks, styles. NASCAR sims
>are good, but I'd place a whole lot of things in the queue ahead of
>NASCAR as the perfect vehicle for a new engine. Some sports (like the
>two mentioned above or rallying) don't have any sim at all yet.

I agree with you 100% John (again - heck this is getting boring), the GPL
engine is so good at handling direction changes, braking & acceleration
effects that enhancements of this engine would not be fully utilised in a
Nascar sim (except for pit stops & recovering from wrecks).

Now I know we are going to upset a lot of our friends across the water who
just love Nascar to bits, but like you I would put Nascar way down the list
as a flagship for an auto sim engine.

The prospect of N3 just doesn't e*** me - I'd rather the resources were
pumped into ICR3, or any number of open wheel or saloon car racing titles.
What about on-line rallycross for testing friendships?

Way off topic - but imagine a Papy sim using the GPL engine based on famous
car chases!

Cheers!

Tony"

Not much has changed John?

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by **John Simmon** » Fri, 25 Jul 2003 06:36:09

If you're laps down and you want to avoid the tension of a double-
file restart, a more correct thing to do would be on the "1 more lap
to green" announcment, pull into the pits and do a drive-through so
that anyone behind you can do what they want/need to do. That way,
you could just fall in behind the last car of the longest line, and
you're all set.

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