John Wallace? I was looking through some things the other day
(house cleaning) and I found a message from him I had printed
out. Sort of miss his contributions.
Pete
Pete
I don't know what they're doing right now.
Achim
> I have no idea. He married a long time ago, and since then I haven't heard
> much from him anymore. AAMOF, I also lost contact with Marc Nelson, and I
> really regret this.
> I don't know what they're doing right now.
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> Achim
Gerry
> I'm always surprised when people say that using throttle and brake together
> is 'unrealistic'. The percentages and frequency with which it's done may
> differ between sims and real road or offroad cars, but it works in a real
> car just as it works in Papy's sims, and when I was younger and drove my
> cars on the limit more often, and cars were still rear wheel driven, I used
> to practice and do it from time to time myself. To be honest, mainly after
> Walter Roehrl said he's doing it a lot <g> although a few times I even did
> it on motorcycles (to stabilise them when the started oscillating).
> Of course it's a lot more difficult with the classical pedal layout and
> without automatic transmission, so it certainly happens more often in cars
> which can be left-foot braked, and the amount of throttle you'd apply
> probably differs for various reasons from what Gerry refers to when he talks
> about simmers doing it. And you'll probably use it offroads more than on
> tarmac, and it probably also is related to how often the car slides, but it
> works and is not unrealistic at all. It's just difficult to do. But nobody
> really knows whether drivers like Jim Clark didn't use it as well from time
> to time, maybe even subconsciously.
> I know Gerry's a *** realism driver, so for him, using anything but
> realistic controls diminishes the fun. But, since most online racers use
> comparable controllers, the competition is still fair and on a level
> playground for most of us when we use these techniques.
> Achim
So how will braking while nailing the throttle at the same time make me
exit T3 faster than if I heel and toed?
Also, same track same question, but I'm in a real Lotus 49?
TIA
Gerry
Sure, I'll host. I'm betting that after the first couple of wrecks, most cars
will be too damaged to continue. The last 3 or 4 will drive until they get
bored and quit...<g>
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IMO, the same time constraints that prevent people from joining 'official'
leagues also keep people from running the number of practice laps you'd like to
see.
Maybe, but I'd hate to***up my perspective in other cars/games... For some
reason when I drive in roof view, I have even less 'feel' for the car.
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Thanks for reminding me about that. I understand your reluctance to start up
near the front on the restarts. I've been there myself. But, if anyone is
behind you, you staying near the back deprives him of the chance to possible
make up a lap(since he can't pass you without getting a BF). I couldn't keep
track easily of which cars were a lap down, and now many. So I don't know if
this actually affected anyone saturday. But if no one is behind you, sure -
start near the back if it makes you more comfortable. If someone IS behind
you, stay up front, but annouce that they should pass you on the right at the
start. When the flag drops, pull to the left and slow to let everyone pass
safely. Just a suggestion...
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That makes me feel wierd - first time I've stopped by r.a.s. in ages,
and read the above!
Actually had been out of sims for ages, basically since my industry
went into a nosedive and work got too stressful. Recently clicked that
stopping doing the things which alleviate stress (sim-racing being
one) to have more time to devote to the things which cause stress is
"a bad thing".
So, reinstalled GPL, bought F1-2002 and added GTR2002, bought F1C, and
basically searching around for what a once keen sim-racer should be
looking at these days. N2003 sounds good, but open to any suggestions.
John
I don't usually look left/right either. I lose focus to easily hehe.
I really enjoy the advanced head physics of F1C. Your head tracks where the
car is pointed. Others have done it in the past (MS Precision Racing comes
to mind) but F1C seems to be the first to get it right. It really helps the
immersion factor IMO. I would like similar options for Papy sims but that
aint gonna happen now <g>.
I come from the *old* world where driving AIDS actually made the car more
stable but at a speed/performance cost. I know get out of the past Mitch
<g>.
This is a good point. I would say the items you mention making things
unfair would be closer to reality as well. As in RL the more you spend the
faster you are (most times anyway). Some teams budget are 2-3 times that of
some of the backmarkers. This is still actually pretty fair as if you
desire the high end then go purchase it <g>
Mitch
But if one of us turns on driving aids (post patch), it's all over; not even close. And that was not true prior to N2003.
That's the difference.
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> So even though aids are 'more of a sin' they are ok but driving from the roof isn't?? I don't understand that at all, ...
> > Pete
> That makes me feel wierd - first time I've stopped by r.a.s. in ages,
> and read the above!
We have missed your sharp wit. In fact I haven't seen many really decent
arguments (not simple abuse) on here for ages :)
Cheers
Tony
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>> Joachim, this is sort of off the topic but what ever became of
>>John Wallace? I was looking through some things the other day
>>(house cleaning) and I found a message from him I had printed
>>out. Sort of miss his contributions.
>> Pete
> That makes me feel wierd - first time I've stopped by r.a.s. in ages,
> and read the above!
> Actually had been out of sims for ages, basically since my industry
> went into a nosedive and work got too stressful. Recently clicked that
> stopping doing the things which alleviate stress (sim-racing being
> one) to have more time to devote to the things which cause stress is
> "a bad thing".
> So, reinstalled GPL, bought F1-2002 and added GTR2002, bought F1C, and
> basically searching around for what a once keen sim-racer should be
> looking at these days. N2003 sounds good, but open to any suggestions.
> John
> That makes me feel wierd - first time I've stopped by r.a.s. in ages,
> and read the above!
> Actually had been out of sims for ages, basically since my industry
> went into a nosedive and work got too stressful. Recently clicked that
> stopping doing the things which alleviate stress (sim-racing being
> one) to have more time to devote to the things which cause stress is
> "a bad thing".
> So, reinstalled GPL, bought F1-2002 and added GTR2002, bought F1C, and
> basically searching around for what a once keen sim-racer should be
> looking at these days. N2003 sounds good, but open to any suggestions.
Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy
"goyl at nettx dot no"
http://www.theuspits.com
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