rec.autos.simulators

No real sims of modern F1!

Arto Wik

No real sims of modern F1!

by Arto Wik » Sun, 10 Jun 2001 09:28:39

Well, after having been taken part to a N4 practice on-line series of
four about 50% races, and after some years of GPL offline experience,
I must confess that to me all those three "good" modern F1 "sims" -
F1CS2000, GP3 and F1RC really are not so very good! They all do have
their good points, but I think they really are not simulators in the
sense of GPL and N4 are! What do you think?

Arto

PS Sierra/Papy, please make us a _good_ modern F1 sim with on line
   capabilities like N4 has!

Don Burnett

No real sims of modern F1!

by Don Burnett » Sun, 10 Jun 2001 11:07:21

I would agree with that, but I would really love to see a Cart sim instead.
However, any open wheel sim by Papy would be great.

Don Burnette


Uncle Feste

No real sims of modern F1!

by Uncle Feste » Sun, 10 Jun 2001 11:11:31


> Well, after having been taken part to a N4 practice on-line series of
> four about 50% races, and after some years of GPL offline experience,
> I must confess that to me all those three "good" modern F1 "sims" -
> F1CS2000, GP3 and F1RC really are not so very good! They all do have
> their good points, but I think they really are not simulators in the
> sense of GPL and N4 are! What do you think?

> Arto

> PS Sierra/Papy, please make us a _good_ modern F1 sim with on line
>    capabilities like N4 has!

If Papy makes it, I will buy it.  

--

Fester

Thom j

No real sims of modern F1!

by Thom j » Sun, 10 Jun 2001 11:28:08

See now!! if Papy makes it they will come!!

| If Papy makes it, I will buy it.
| --
| Fester

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David G Fishe

No real sims of modern F1!

by David G Fishe » Sun, 10 Jun 2001 12:16:10

Maybe Papy will make some of you a woman.

David G Fisher



> > Well, after having been taken part to a N4 practice on-line series of
> > four about 50% races, and after some years of GPL offline experience,
> > I must confess that to me all those three "good" modern F1 "sims" -
> > F1CS2000, GP3 and F1RC really are not so very good! They all do have
> > their good points, but I think they really are not simulators in the
> > sense of GPL and N4 are! What do you think?

> > Arto

> > PS Sierra/Papy, please make us a _good_ modern F1 sim with on line
> >    capabilities like N4 has!

> If Papy makes it, I will buy it.

> --

> Fester

Don Burnett

No real sims of modern F1!

by Don Burnett » Sun, 10 Jun 2001 12:21:30

Strange comment.

Donald M. Burnette



> Maybe Papy will make some of you a woman.

> David G Fisher




> > > Well, after having been taken part to a N4 practice on-line series of
> > > four about 50% races, and after some years of GPL offline experience,
> > > I must confess that to me all those three "good" modern F1 "sims" -
> > > F1CS2000, GP3 and F1RC really are not so very good! They all do have
> > > their good points, but I think they really are not simulators in the
> > > sense of GPL and N4 are! What do you think?

> > > Arto

> > > PS Sierra/Papy, please make us a _good_ modern F1 sim with on line
> > >    capabilities like N4 has!

> > If Papy makes it, I will buy it.

> > --

> > Fester

J. Janaso

No real sims of modern F1!

by J. Janaso » Sun, 10 Jun 2001 12:45:57

Someone else's papy made me a woman!  She's got a full head of teeth to
boot~

J. Janasov
N. Ga Hillbilly
GPL kicks my ass!


> Strange comment.

> Donald M. Burnette



> > Maybe Papy will make some of you a woman.

> > David G Fisher




> > > > Well, after having been taken part to a N4 practice on-line series
of
> > > > four about 50% races, and after some years of GPL offline
experience,
> > > > I must confess that to me all those three "good" modern F1 "sims" -
> > > > F1CS2000, GP3 and F1RC really are not so very good! They all do have
> > > > their good points, but I think they really are not simulators in the
> > > > sense of GPL and N4 are! What do you think?

> > > > Arto

> > > > PS Sierra/Papy, please make us a _good_ modern F1 sim with on line
> > > >    capabilities like N4 has!

> > > If Papy makes it, I will buy it.

> > > --

> > > Fester

John Bod

No real sims of modern F1!

by John Bod » Sun, 10 Jun 2001 12:50:29

That's bull, Arto -- F1CS2000 is right up there with N4 and GPL
physics-wise (this is especially true once you apply the All Chassis
Patch to gain the advanced physics).  This is a VERY under-rated sim,
IMO.  Too many people couldn't get decent performance out of F1 2000,
and I don't they they've given F1CS2000 a fair shake (you included,
perhaps?).  

With some of the current graphics add-ons, F1CS2K rivals F1RC in terms
of eye-candy.

This may not be the definitive modern F1 sim, but its successor -- F1
2001 -- will be, without a doubt.  F1 2001 could well exceed GPL, N4,
and WSC.

Just my $0.02 (hey, you asked!).

-- JB


Kevin Gavit

No real sims of modern F1!

by Kevin Gavit » Sun, 10 Jun 2001 12:55:34



Hey, I have nothing against women, some of my best friends have been women,
but I don't want to be made one.

KFG

John Bod

No real sims of modern F1!

by John Bod » Sun, 10 Jun 2001 12:57:44

I still don't own the full version of N4.  I'm not a huge NASCAR fan,
I have all the NASCAR tracks in N3 (including Indy and Pocono), I have
NASCAR Heat for modern physics, and I just don't feel the need for
another NASCAR sim, even if it is the "Son of GPL."  Not until the
price comes down, anyway.

-- JB ("The Heretic")



>See now!! if Papy makes it they will come!!


>| If Papy makes it, I will buy it.
>| --
>| Fester

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John Bod

No real sims of modern F1!

by John Bod » Sun, 10 Jun 2001 13:00:10

Okay, so other than my previous response which addressed the issue of
modern F1 sims, your post has only managed to prompt replies on how
much we need a CART sim and how great Papy is.

Maybe we should call ourselves rec.autos.onetrickponies . . .

;-)

-- JB


David G Fishe

No real sims of modern F1!

by David G Fishe » Sun, 10 Jun 2001 13:28:20

Even if they used the GPL physics engine?

David G Fisher




> > Maybe Papy will make some of you a woman.

> > David G Fisher

> Hey, I have nothing against women, some of my best friends have been
women,
> but I don't want to be made one.

> KFG

Dave Cas

No real sims of modern F1!

by Dave Cas » Sun, 10 Jun 2001 14:19:41

Really?  Okay, make mine 25 years old, beautiful, blonde hair, blue eyes,
somewhere around 36-24-36 and slightly smarter than a box of rocks.

Dave Casey
Casey#9 (NASCAR Racing 4)
www.teamcasey.net
www.lvkc.com
www.buycoolcrap.com

Ben Colema

No real sims of modern F1!

by Ben Colema » Sun, 10 Jun 2001 14:45:59


>Even if they used the GPL physics engine?

>David G Fisher

That depends....some I know would benefit from ignoring small,
high-frequency bumps...

Ben

Iain Mackenzi

No real sims of modern F1!

by Iain Mackenzi » Sun, 10 Jun 2001 16:03:13

A classic Dave!!  One of the funniest things I've read on ras - ever!
Iain



> Even if they used the GPL physics engine?

> David G Fisher





> > > Maybe Papy will make some of you a woman.

> > > David G Fisher

> > Hey, I have nothing against women, some of my best friends have been
> women,
> > but I don't want to be made one.

> > KFG


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