rec.autos.simulators

Basically, its been flawless.  I've seen exactly one issue, where the Nature
test crashes 3dmark2001SE, but this is a bug in 3dmark itself which will
soon be fixed.  The tenebrae quake mod (with the latest 9700 patch) looks
amazing, making that game much scarier than the original.  UT with the S3TC
textures is glass smooth (you must d/l all the updated renderers from the
Epic site first, besides the 436 patch).  Grand Prix Legends looks great in
either D3D or OGL, tho my cpu is not enough to crank up all the options to
the max yet.  The card doesn't run that hot BTW, the heatsink is maybe 50C.

The only other thing remotely worrying is the reported issues with agp 8x
mobos, but that hopefully will be addressed with a 9700 bios upgrade.  My
hat's off to ATI, I'm very happy with this card so far.

rms

The ATI 9700 will not do FSAA in 16-bit color mode, which is all that
GPLegends has.
This has been confirmed by ATI.
See this previous thread:

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&threadm=alqvmv%24r...

(Christ!!, what a link!! Maybe just search in Google groups for 9700 &
fsaa.)

 This is the main reason why I have not upgraded from my ATI 8500, after all
 without FSAA what advantage is there in a 9700?? All you can get is 36fps,
 same as me, but my image has nicely smoothed edges, whereas yours is
 jaggy!!

I hope you will post at the Rage3D forum to insist that ATI supply drivers
to make your card work as well in GPL as 2-3 year old ATI or Nvidea cards.

Regards

JM

I'll wait though, the proof is in the pudding...

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: Oh no it doesn't!!
:
: The ATI 9700 will not do FSAA in 16-bit color mode, which is all that
: GPLegends has.
: This has been confirmed by ATI.
: See this previous thread:
:

rms

For what reason ? You seem to have some very useful  knowledge
to share. Some URLs to the relevant information would be
nice.

Has ATi produced an "errata list" for pre-1.3 boards ? Maybe the
erratas are quite trivial, such as slightly better analog filters, and
don't affect core functionality.  Is 1.3 the latest version from Ati ?

Has ATi officially stated that any pre-1.3 card can be RMA'd ??

John Lewis

http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?s=&threadid=33634403&perpa...
ighlight=revision%201.3&pagenumber=1

    is one, just do some searches on rage3d 9700 forum.

rms

I didn't see any better GF4 though.. What GF4 brand is your friend
using ?

Regards,

   - Juancho

It's been flawless for me, too.  In fact, I don't even have the nature
problem you mention with 3DMark2001SE.  I did have to get the patch ATI
released a few weeks ago to fix the menu font problems in Battlefield 1942
but that's it.

AMD Athlon 2200+ XP
Giga-byte 7DX MB

rms

What CPU do you have? A P2 150mhz?

Vintook

Andr

What is that game that 3dmark uses at the very beginning?  It's the one with
the truck running around shooting the ***out of the big mechanical
robots...

I'd like to get that one :)

-Larry

He's losing the better part of 10000 marks because of it!

-Larry