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by **Careful with that Axe, Nic** » Fri, 27 Dec 2002 12:29:40

I'm looking into upgrading my computer and I was wondering how
difference a Radeon Pro 9700 will make on my machine:

Athlon 750mhz
Windows 98
Hercules 3D Prophet 4500
256MB RAM

And of course, will it work with GPL?

Nick

by **Dave Henri** » Fri, 27 Dec 2002 13:05:19

zippo...zip...zero.
You don't have enuf CPU to benefit from a Radeon. A Nvidia GF4 Ti4200
would be a much better fit. Always try to upgrade the cpu to the max your
motherboard can support before really laying out big bucks on a new vidcard.
dave henrie

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by **Doug Hoo** » Sat, 28 Dec 2002 00:00:34

Dave,
Would an Athlon 1.2 (266 fsb) be enough horse power to notice any difference
if I upgrade to it from my GF2 GTS 64? Unfortunately my motherboard (Abit
KT7A Raid) only supports sdram (I have 512 megs though)

> zippo...zip...zero.
> You don't have enuf CPU to benefit from a Radeon. A Nvidia GF4 Ti4200
> would be a much better fit. Always try to upgrade the cpu to the max your
> motherboard can support before really laying out big bucks on a new
vidcard.
> dave henrie

> > I'm looking into upgrading my computer and I was wondering how
> > difference a Radeon Pro 9700 will make on my machine:

> > Athlon 750mhz
> > Windows 98
> > Hercules 3D Prophet 4500
> > 256MB RAM

> > And of course, will it work with GPL?

> > Nick

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by **Schoone** » Sat, 28 Dec 2002 00:02:58

I don't think anything under a 2ghz or a AMD 2000+ would be worth it with a
9700. I'd go with a 9500 instead, much cheaper and probably better match
with slower CPUs.

> Dave,
> Would an Athlon 1.2 (266 fsb) be enough horse power to notice any
difference
> if I upgrade to it from my GF2 GTS 64? Unfortunately my motherboard (Abit
> KT7A Raid) only supports sdram (I have 512 megs though)

> > zippo...zip...zero.
> > You don't have enuf CPU to benefit from a Radeon. A Nvidia GF4 Ti4200
> > would be a much better fit. Always try to upgrade the cpu to the max
your
> > motherboard can support before really laying out big bucks on a new
> vidcard.
> > dave henrie

> > > I'm looking into upgrading my computer and I was wondering how
> > > difference a Radeon Pro 9700 will make on my machine:

> > > Athlon 750mhz
> > > Windows 98
> > > Hercules 3D Prophet 4500
> > > 256MB RAM

> > > And of course, will it work with GPL?

> > > Nick

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by **Rush** » Sat, 28 Dec 2002 00:20:41

I recently upgraded from a AMD 1800 and a 266 FSB to a 2700 running a 333
FSB both using the 9700 Pro. The earlier MB ran at 4X agp and the new
systems runs at 8X. I always running Crucial XMS memory. Nascar 2002 runs
good on about anything. F1 2002 is a different story. What really made the
biggest difference was the Direct X 9 and the ATI Catalyst 03.00 drivers.
F1 2002 is so smoother and every just flows. I still tweak the graphic
settings to amplify the performance but very impressed with the potential
DX9 has and future of Catalyst drivers. I said all this but I will be the
first to buy the Nvida FX when available. Now don't run off and download
DX9. I have read problems with this software along with ATI drivers for
DX9. I didn't. Seem everyone gave really good advice to the original post
about matching CPU to Video card performance.

by **Dave Henri** » Sat, 28 Dec 2002 01:05:22

yes, maybe. I just can't recomend the 9700 pro because of it's steep
price. IF you had a cpu in the XP+ line then yeah, a 9700p would be sweet.
But since you are tied to a slower chip(geez a chip that is over ONE
GIGAHERTZ and we call it slow!! Who'd a figured that two Christmas' ago?)
Your Vid card will be idling a-lot waiting for stuff to be sent to it. If
you can't run a newer CPU, the XP 2100+ is under $100 (us) most places,
then $350 for the Price of a 9700pro just seems like wasted cash. Unless
you also have plans to jump up the cpu performance later on.
I'd agree with Schooner, anything under the 2ghz rating is probably a
waste for a 9700 pro. You Definately WILL see increased performance, but
the price is pretty steep when you can probably get MORE performance from a
cpu upgrade at Half the cost.
The Gf4 price is plummeting, the 9500pro is about a $100 less than the
9700pro, either one of those would seem to be a better fit for your current
hardware.
dave henrie

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by **bernie eccl** » Sat, 28 Dec 2002 06:41:39

Doug

I have an Abit KT7A (non-raid) board V.1 and after flashing the BIOS, I am
able to run an AMD Athlon XP2000 (1667Mhz). I believe that it can actually
take an XP2100, but I didn't think it was worth the extra 15. I think you
can get one of these processors for around 60 now. If you are in the UK
try www.ebuyer.com

Hope this helps

Stewart

> Dave,
> Would an Athlon 1.2 (266 fsb) be enough horse power to notice any
difference
> if I upgrade to it from my GF2 GTS 64? Unfortunately my motherboard (Abit
> KT7A Raid) only supports sdram (I have 512 megs though)

> > zippo...zip...zero.
> > You don't have enuf CPU to benefit from a Radeon. A Nvidia GF4 Ti4200
> > would be a much better fit. Always try to upgrade the cpu to the max
your
> > motherboard can support before really laying out big bucks on a new
> vidcard.
> > dave henrie

> > > I'm looking into upgrading my computer and I was wondering how
> > > difference a Radeon Pro 9700 will make on my machine:

> > > Athlon 750mhz
> > > Windows 98
> > > Hercules 3D Prophet 4500
> > > 256MB RAM

> > > And of course, will it work with GPL?

> > > Nick

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by **Careful with that Axe, Nic** » Sat, 28 Dec 2002 08:12:18

Thanks for your comments and suggestions, today I went over to the local
CompUSA and picked up a new motherboard and an Athlon 2400XP chip. As
the money comes along I'll get some more memory and get it all
installed. Then I'll look for a new card.

Thanks again,

NIck

by **Doug Hoo** » Sat, 28 Dec 2002 12:39:44

Thanks for the info Bernie. I am in the US .What bios version did you flash
to?

> Doug

> I have an Abit KT7A (non-raid) board V.1 and after flashing the BIOS, I am
> able to run an AMD Athlon XP2000 (1667Mhz). I believe that it can
actually
> take an XP2100, but I didn't think it was worth the extra 15. I think
you
> can get one of these processors for around 60 now. If you are in the UK
> try www.ebuyer.com

> Hope this helps

> Stewart

> > Dave,
> > Would an Athlon 1.2 (266 fsb) be enough horse power to notice any
> difference
> > if I upgrade to it from my GF2 GTS 64? Unfortunately my motherboard
(Abit
> > KT7A Raid) only supports sdram (I have 512 megs though)

> > > zippo...zip...zero.
> > > You don't have enuf CPU to benefit from a Radeon. A Nvidia GF4
Ti4200
> > > would be a much better fit. Always try to upgrade the cpu to the max
> your
> > > motherboard can support before really laying out big bucks on a new
> > vidcard.
> > > dave henrie

> > > > I'm looking into upgrading my computer and I was wondering how
> > > > difference a Radeon Pro 9700 will make on my machine:

> > > > Athlon 750mhz
> > > > Windows 98
> > > > Hercules 3D Prophet 4500
> > > > 256MB RAM

> > > > And of course, will it work with GPL?

> > > > Nick

> > > ---
> > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
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