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I led the champinoship all season in one of my leagues because I drove every
race, drove cleanly, and finished in the points.  Problem is, this league had
"scratch' results.  After the scratch results were applied, I lost the
championship to a guy who missed several races.  Grrr...

Eldred
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When I first got N2k2, I had a HELL of a time with the default setups(easy).  I
kept spinning, and could barely complete a lap.  Someone on r.a.s. suggested
the <fast> setup.  I was able to drive that much better.  When I got N2k3, I
had the same problem with the <easy> setup.  I tried the <fast>, and it was
much better.

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John's already said no one this one and he's earned the right to do things
his way. The new-style setup is not for me though (bf for saying thanks?!!?)
and I'll probably look for something else for Saturday nights.

Regards

Interesting.  I can agree to most of them, but there were a couple that I might
have issues with.  I'll question in private, if you wish...<g>

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"If you are wrecked and end up on your roof you must retire from the
race".

Retire?  Or you must call for a tow-truck?

Brian Oster

I mean ... why do people work hard to avoid accidents in the real
world? Health and money.

So maybe you start a season with a $1 million budget. After races you
have to repair your car. A little wreck might cost you 10 grand, a bad
one 200. So the more often you wreck, the more careful you must be in
future races to just keep your season alive. Out of money, sorry game
over. See you next year.

Obviously this penalizes you for accidents regardless of who's at
fault, but that's a very good thing! This is so obvious to me, I don't
know why everyone's trying to devise systems to only penalize the
person "at fault". The reason everyone (in the real world) works so
hard to avoid accidents is because they are very bad things, no matter
what the cause.

At first look it might seem to create animosity ("you bastard, you
cost me $45,000!"). But in reality it is the "badness of accidents"
that eventually creates a culture of respect among racers. No one
wants to be in an accident, so most show a little respect for their
peers on the track in order to create a generally safer racing
environment.

Your thoughts?

Last lap at Mosport - IGPS1. Considering the rule above, both surviving
this one to the flag was quite something:

http://www.baldrick.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/gpl/images/aprhp5.jpg

Cheers
Tony

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"John Simmons" said:

Oh give me a break John...  The whole issue here is that *you* like to race
back to the line - so you think the rules sucks - just like I like to chat
during yellows (whilch *you* hate) and thus I hate your damn chatting
rules..

You seemed to be more interrested in people racing in correctly painted
cars, keeping their mouths shut than you do in the quality of the races.

GPL-racing and NR2003-racing are ***miles*** apart...  In GPL you'd be
damned lucky if you were within 10 car-lengths of the car infront half the
time - in NR2003 you're riding the bumber of the car in front for the entire
race at times.  Add to that the biggest difference of all; yellows - *the*
very problem one's trying to "get rid of"..

I am sorry - but I cannot see anything there [in those rules]  that will
drasticly improve the quality of the racing or reduce the number of yellows.

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Well we all seem too far apart....  :-)

Anyway,  I've decided to drop out for now... I've just grown to tired of all
the yellows and ***ing.

I plan on waiting until the patch and PWF comes out and then setup a
RASCAR-BGN Euroseries.
Perhaps by then you've made up a rule set I can nick :-)

Anyone who want to take over and maintian the website - let me know and I'll
give you the details and files..

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/ turns up volume on hearing aid.

Oh,  yes.  Anniversary of graduation year - 1963.

/ returns volume to "off" - falls back to sleep. - zzzz, zzzz, zzzzz

Elrikk

By the time I had earned enough ($500,000 ?) to set up a F1 car I was afraid
to run it.  ;o)

Elrikk

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It seems to me that the trouble with some of the other new ideas is that
they are just too involved with too many grey areas that are likely to
cause disputes.  If I recall from last year, John almost quit because
there were guys on his back over his and their interpretation of certain
racing incidents.  I was trying to think up a simple rule structure that
would generally penalise the constant offender without any heavy-
handedness being required.

With this additional rule, all that is required is to review all yellow
flag incidents and assign points to those that are involved in those
incidents.  It would probably need a little tweaking before it became
absolutely fair, such as in a race where there were so many yellows that
several guys notched up a ban in that one race.

Having not yet raced in RASCAR (but soon hoping to) I'm, of course,
making some assumptions as to how frequent and how many cars get
involved etc.  Looking forward to finding out for real though.  :)
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