That's a good idea, both Air Warrior and Warbirds do that.
BTW, how about an FTP or www site dedicated to the Hawaii project? This way we
can participate in bbs discussions and get the latest poop without
a: Paying LD charges.
b: Cluttering p this board for all the poos souls that can't access the Hawaii
project.
The World Group Manager client software would be a good way to go here.
OR, how about having a new newsgroup just for this.
Los
>> Yes, in the begining, because everyone must start at the bottom,
"good"
>> drivers" will have to fight it out with "bad" drivers, but I can't
think
>> of any other way to handle it.
>What about going on recommendations of reputatable series directors.
That's fine if you've raced in one of these series', but I can run with
most people, and you or the others don't know me.
Mike
Eldred Pickett
I am NOT paranoid. And why are you always watching me?!?
I got on late Friday night/early Sat. morning and tried it out
(yes, even this po' boy had to try it at least once ;). I ran a 9
lapper with 33 competitors at Talladega. Things went well, with one
exception: everyone qualified at 188-195, but the guy on the pole
was 212 or so. Maybe a warp?
The race was a demo-derby (no pace lap). I lucked out though and
got a late start, starting from the pits and missing all of the fun. ;)
I ended up 6th and only lost 10 sec or so to the winner (once I was
up to speed) so I can't complain. I'll wait until they come up with
a cheaper connect method and adapt it to ICR2 (or will it be ICR3 by
then? ;) Oh, yeah, and wait until I upgrade to something faster than
my DX2/66 -- low res NASCAR isn't too cool with the unpredictable moves
of the human drivers.
Good work, Rick, Ed, et al!
Pick one or more: Model Rockets (competition-NERCB) / PCs (even Atari!) /
ICR-PRO / NASCAR-NRL / Who needs a life when you have multiple non-lives?
I thought I should add a few comments to this thread. First there
are networks that can give global access and low latency. I
support the worlds largest Frame Relay network for MCI. This
network gives round trip delay numbers for here (Bay area CAl.) to
EUROPE in the 250ms. range and to Japan in the 300ms range. In
the US and Canada the delay is in the 100ms range. This would
provide a suitable enviroment for Multi Player Racing. Also with
Remote lan access (ie. 800 number access in all areas of the US
and most of Canada) you would have the best possible coverage.
I also would like a lan version to allow local club racing. I
also have been looking for the Brickyard 500 game to add the Indy
track to my collection, any help?
In closing look at MCI's network as a solution for Global dial-in
access to a host. Jim Parkhurst / Second Level Support Frame
Relay..
I got the software Wednesday night and up to day I spend well over 10
hours on Hawaii. You were right about everybody causing an accident
from the start. I learned a lot. I don't know how to thank you guys
(beta testers and Papyrus) for putting up Hawaii. I think it's kind
of a nice replacement for the Papyrus BBS. Yesterday (Sunday) I had
my best day so far. Although I won two races on Friday, last night
was the best. I had the best backmarkers, very smart competitors, and
a _VERY_ loose car at Martinsville. Although I had to give up my lead
about 3 laps to go, I'm very happy with that race.
There is one suggestion I would like to make. I know everyone has
his own preferences. Talladega; I don't hate that track, but after
wayting for 20 minutes for a race somewhere else then Dega, I think
Hawaii shouldn't allow more then 3 races at the same track at a time.
I mean, 36 people go to Taladega and only 12 of them finish anyway.
The guys that want to race at Martinsville or Bristol or Atlanta, etc.
Anyway, thanks again. Hope to race you once. I'm DaveK on Hawaii.
Dave.
Dave.
I don't disagree that these types of drivers have no place racing
against drivers who want some decent competition.
Somehow the terms "game" and "serious competition" seem out of place
when used together. Sure there are guys who take this seriously (maybe
way too seriously)...but if they expect to find NASCAR quality driving
all the time on a public network, they're setting themselves up to be
disappointed. Should they expect a good time and people driving to
win? Yes, no doubt about it. But along with it comes the idiots,
inexperienced, or whatever you want to call them. Nature of the Beast.
But as someone else said, the skill ratings will eventually weed out
the lamers. Then they'll be racing by themselves and can have all the
demo derby action they want. Unfortunately anyone starting out will
have to bob and weave around these guys long enough to work their
rating up.
Don't disagree with this either.
I kind of doubt that this is in any way a majority or even significant
minority of the people racing online. To begin with, anyone who wasn;t
interested in NASCAR Racing, doesn't follow the subject close enough
to realize that Hawaiii even exists.
Which is why I've pretty much limited myself to Talladega online.
Hell, if I can;t stay clean there, I have no business being on the
short tracks.
I think this is true even in real life racing. I doubt that Earnhardt
would profess to having mastered the sport.
Nobody likes jerks that are just out there to cause trouble, that's
for sure. And there's nothing wrong with respecting those who've
attained the best skills...but there was a time when they were green
too. They have no business calling for the heads of newbies because
they're better.
Fine, put your "passion" on display at the track. There's no better
way to show it than to blow the rest away. The best drivers do their
talking on the track.
And I suggest that being an expert doesn't give you the right to be a
demanding jerk.
I race as clean as possible. I never spin anyone out on purpose
(unlike the man in the black #3).
Yes, and that should be the end of it. No need to call for the banning
of newbies.
=========================================================
==Jim McGuigan Power Switching & Conversion Systems==
==Hanover, PA Baltimore / Washington Field Service==
== ==
** Hawaii Driver: Knuckle Duster **
*********************************************************
>Maybe one of the things Papyrus could put into Hawaii V2 (hehe) is a
>'driving school', where more experienced drivers could teach us less
>talented folks without hurting anyone's ratings if someone wrecks. Hell, I
>can't even drive well enough to finish a race in single player mode yet,
>and not because I drive like a suicidal on crack. I need guidance. ;)
>Yeah, that's a good idea.
=========================================================
==Jim McGuigan Power Switching & Conversion Systems==
==Hanover, PA Baltimore / Washington Field Service==
== ==
** Hawaii Driver: Knuckle Duster **
*********************************************************
Yeah, you'd think that would work. I did hit enter and the box turned
from red to grey.
=========================================================
==Jim McGuigan Power Switching & Conversion Systems==
==Hanover, PA Baltimore / Washington Field Service==
== ==
** Hawaii Driver: Knuckle Duster **
*********************************************************
> I guess it bothers me that you have come to believe that the
>original testers feel this way, maybe it shouldn't.
I understand what you mean..it just takes some familiarity to the
system. It wouldn't surprise me if many people don't even notice the
number of laps and race flags (pace, damage, yellows, day/night)
listed on the track screen.
Don't think it's unapreciated. I'm thrilled it works as good as it
does and I'm not naive enough to think it wasn't always this way.
When I race online, I pretty much run the race and keep quiet. That is
unless someone does something really dumb. Like spinning me out on the
pace lap to the point of me not being able to get myself righted,
until the green has dropped.
No flames from me, you're points are valid. I wish I could have been a
tester. Then maybe I wouldn't be stuck in the back so much <G>
Exactly why I couldn't understand all the griping about newbies.
=========================================================
==Jim McGuigan Power Switching & Conversion Systems==
==Hanover, PA Baltimore / Washington Field Service==
== ==
** Hawaii Driver: Knuckle Duster **
*********************************************************
> > Ed, who are these 1% online who are driving cars around Bristol? Inquiring minds
> > would like to know! :-)
> > Regards Pete
> I can't tell you that! :-) But they are out there. Y'all might be
> surprised who you're REALLY racing sometimes!
> --
> Ed Martin
> Papyrus Design Group
Regards Pete
> : > -- Brian, maybe we can get a red car permanently assigned to you! :-)
> :
> I'd like to request that "puke" green car... especially for the warping
> issue we used to have :-)
> bill
Pete
Pat
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Pat Campbell The Chevy Monte Carlo 6,94,88,16,4,25
Lexington, AL NASCAR's Wide Load War Eagle!!!
Home Page: http://fly.hiwaay.net/~pscampbe/pscindex.html
NASCAR Stats: http://fly.hiwaay.net/~pscampbe/nascstat.html
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> That's fine if you've raced in one of these series', but I can run with
> most people, and you or the others don't know me.
> Mike
David Martin
IVL Series Director http://www.card.unc.edu/~ivl
#26 Samuel Adams Chevy
HAWAII dgm26sam
