That was for Schumacher!
and to think that Rubens has a guaranteed 2 more years of this to look
forward to.
elrikk
OK, there are reasons that I never was a big Ferreri fan ;O)
That was for Schumacher!
and to think that Rubens has a guaranteed 2 more years of this to look
forward to.
elrikk
OK, there are reasons that I never was a big Ferreri fan ;O)
I think Jean Todt and Ross Brawn made a disgraceful decision in asking
Rubens to move over. I also think it was disgraceful that Schumacher made
the move for the win. All 3 of them fully deserved the boos they got from
the crowd, something I have never heard before. Today they have made a
mockery of Formula 1.
Phil
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-John
Boo indeed.
I just posted to rec.autos.sport.f1 with the following....
After Coulthard let Hackers past at the Aussie GP in 1998 the FIA Made a
ruleing reagrding tactics like today's.
These are direct quotes from the 1998-1999 Formula One Yearbook I have
infront of me now..
Page 104
"The week before the Brazilian race, the FIA had put out a statement
declaring that teams could no longer arbitrarily decide the finishing order
of their drivers"
"In Interlagos, Bernie Ecclestone declared that the two McLaren would be
disqualified if they adoped a similar tactic to the one used in Austrailia"
So Going on that Rule - congratulations to Juan Pablo Montoya for a great
race victory. However - I fully expect the result to stand thus proving
the FIA have a fantastic ability to simply 'forget' rules as and when
applicable to improve Ferrari's performance.
We saw the death of Formula One today.
Doug
> > BOOOO-OOOO-OOOO-OOOOO-OOOOOO-OOOOOOOOOO!!!
> > That was for Schumacher!
> I think Jean Todt and Ross Brawn made a disgraceful decision in asking
> Rubens to move over. I also think it was disgraceful that Schumacher made
> the move for the win. All 3 of them fully deserved the boos they got from
> the crowd, something I have never heard before. Today they have made a
> mockery of Formula 1.
Schumacher himself might not have had anything to do with it, but a true
sportsman, especially one with so much success to his name already,
would never have accepted it
Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy
http://www.theuspits.com
"A man is only as old as the woman he feels........"
--Groucho Marx--
Imo this decision came from luca demontezemelo. He should take all the
blame, he's there for the good of ferrari but is dragging the name into the
dirt.
> > > BOOOO-OOOO-OOOO-OOOOO-OOOOOO-OOOOOOOOOO!!!
> > > That was for Schumacher!
> > I think Jean Todt and Ross Brawn made a disgraceful decision in asking
> > Rubens to move over. I also think it was disgraceful that Schumacher
made
> > the move for the win. All 3 of them fully deserved the boos they got
from
> > the crowd, something I have never heard before. Today they have made a
> > mockery of Formula 1.
> My thoughts exactly Phil, MS didn't *have* to take that win when it was
> offered to him, his position in the Ferrari team will never be in
> question, he could have afforded to make that gesture towards Rubens
> even if the order came from Jean Todt himself and he might have taken
> some heat over it
> Schumacher himself might not have had anything to do with it, but a true
> sportsman, especially one with so much success to his name already,
> would never have accepted it
> Beers and cheers
> (uncle) Goy
> http://www.theuspits.com
> "A man is only as old as the woman he feels........"
> --Groucho Marx--
Not defending it, or am a MS fan, just my .02 :)
-John
I second that Boo and here it is in my maden language :
Chouuuuuuuu-ouuuuuu-ouuuuuuu-ouuuuuux!!!, Hiboux, cailloux etc.
That's a good point, while two way telemetry could have shut off Ruben's
car if he tried to say "no", nothing could have stopped Michael saying he'd
park the car if he truly disagreed with the team orders.
It's like we're back in the 1950's again.
cheers
John
Andi.
> > BOOOO-OOOO-OOOO-OOOOO-OOOOOO-OOOOOOOOOO!!!
> Boo indeed.
> I just posted to rec.autos.sport.f1 with the following....
> After Coulthard let Hackers past at the Aussie GP in 1998 the FIA Made a
> ruleing reagrding tactics like today's.
> These are direct quotes from the 1998-1999 Formula One Yearbook I have
> infront of me now..
> Page 104
> "The week before the Brazilian race, the FIA had put out a statement
> declaring that teams could no longer arbitrarily decide the finishing
order
> of their drivers"
> "In Interlagos, Bernie Ecclestone declared that the two McLaren would be
> disqualified if they adoped a similar tactic to the one used in
Austrailia"
> So Going on that Rule - congratulations to Juan Pablo Montoya for a great
> race victory. However - I fully expect the result to stand thus proving
> the FIA have a fantastic ability to simply 'forget' rules as and when
> applicable to improve Ferrari's performance.
> We saw the death of Formula One today.
> Doug
Agreed but Schumacher's car has brakes that are every bit as effective as
Ruben's.
He could have used them. Or am I being a bit idealistic ? ;o)
elrikk
PS I'm a Montrealer who could be accused of still remembering the attempt
to bump Villeneuve off the track to cinch a drivers championship and hence
of being bit biased in this issue. But I don't think I am.
This is why most Americans will never understand or enjoy F1, all they will
see is that Shucey was handed the win and didn't earn it.
Wayne
(A very irate American F1 Fan)
> > That was for Schumacher!
> I think Jean Todt and Ross Brawn made a disgraceful decision in asking
> Rubens to move over. I also think it was disgraceful that Schumacher made
> the move for the win. All 3 of them fully deserved the boos they got from
> the crowd, something I have never heard before. Today they have made a
> mockery of Formula 1.
> Phil
> --
> Racesim Central Administrator
> http://www.racesimcentral.com
I think you could be right about the origin of the decision, but have to say
that Todt, Brawn and Schumacher must all shoulder part of the blame for
their complicity.
Even from one who's no great fan of Rubens, I found it disgraceful.
J. Janasov
> > BOOOO-OOOO-OOOO-OOOOO-OOOOOO-OOOOOOOOOO!!!
> I second that Boo and here it is in my maden language :
> Chouuuuuuuu-ouuuuuu-ouuuuuuu-ouuuuuux!!!, Hiboux, cailloux etc.
Edward
>>BOOOO-OOOO-OOOO-OOOOO-OOOOOO-OOOOOOOOOO!!!
> Boo indeed.
> I just posted to rec.autos.sport.f1 with the following....
> After Coulthard let Hackers past at the Aussie GP in 1998 the FIA Made a
> ruleing reagrding tactics like today's.
> These are direct quotes from the 1998-1999 Formula One Yearbook I have
> infront of me now..
> Page 104
> "The week before the Brazilian race, the FIA had put out a statement
> declaring that teams could no longer arbitrarily decide the finishing order
> of their drivers"
> "In Interlagos, Bernie Ecclestone declared that the two McLaren would be
> disqualified if they adoped a similar tactic to the one used in Austrailia"
> So Going on that Rule - congratulations to Juan Pablo Montoya for a great
> race victory. However - I fully expect the result to stand thus proving
> the FIA have a fantastic ability to simply 'forget' rules as and when
> applicable to improve Ferrari's performance.
> We saw the death of Formula One today.
> Doug