>>Imo this decision came from luca demontezemelo. He should take all the
>>blame, he's there for the good of ferrari but is dragging the name into
> the
>>dirt.
> Agreed but Schumacher's car has brakes that are every bit as effective as
> Ruben's.
> He could have used them. Or am I being a bit idealistic ? ;o)
--
Fester
Hey nobody's perfect, not even myself 8)
-- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard> 4/15/02
There was one real incident today, Heidfelds crash into Sato. I think the
two of them (and Montoya for that matter) must be deeply relieved it was not
worse.
Did anyone see Villeneuves overtaking explouits today? I thought not, there
isn't enough red paint on the car to make it interesting eh!
Andi.
("borrowed" from rasf1)
J. P. Hovercraft
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> > > What Ferrari did denied all the Austrian fans of the joy they would have
> > > experienced if Rubens had won. As stoic as he was during the press
> > > conference, team orders defeat the purpose of racing. The best man and
> > car
> > > should win. I hope Ferrari learns from this.
> > > This is why most Americans will never understand or enjoy F1, all they
> > will
> > > see is that Shucey was handed the win and didn't earn it.
> > OTOH, there's a large WWF audience that might appreciate it
> LOL, snort, cough, spit-up . . . .
> Damn! And that was a good keyboard too! ;O)
> elrikk
There were rumours of Schumi "sandbagging" - allowing Rubens to get close so
that his contract would be renewed - in previous races. This proves that
was not the case. Rubens has signed, no need for the sandbagging anymore.
How much real worth does Schumi's tally of wins have anymore?
I'd all but given up on F1 prior to this race (still slept through the last
laps) but was making the effort here as 1) Schumi was outqualified fair and
square and 2) it's a track with overtaking potential. Against my better
judgement I really thought Ferrari would be above this rubbish given their
position, but I was wrong...
Maybe we should have a new rule - only 1 car teams are allowed. Surely that
would help on the cost cutting that F1 desires...
Mark
Reading, UK
What a joke. FOR THAT VERY REASON he shouldn't put all his eggs in one
basket. Say Schumi breaks his leg again next time out and Rubens loses the
championship by three points. Ferrari would look pretty frickin stupid
then, wouldn't they...
Mark
Reading, UK
The big "RB Engine OFF" switch on Ross Brawns remote control meant Rubens
had no choice in the matter. Move over or be shut off. They have 2-way
telemetry now you know.
MS still had a working brake pedal. He could have chosen to defy the team
orders.
cheers
John
> > What Ferrari did denied all the Austrian fans of the joy they would
> > have experienced if Rubens had won. As stoic as he was during the
> > press conference, team orders defeat the purpose of racing. The best
> > man and car should win. I hope Ferrari learns from this.
> > This is why most Americans will never understand or enjoy F1, all they
> > will see is that Shucey was handed the win and didn't earn it.
> > Wayne
> > (A very irate American F1 Fan)
> Actually today's fiasco reminded me of a good percentage of the NASCAR
> races I've watched, in terms of fixing who gets to win.
> cheers
> John
Now we get to hear Ferrari and MS bashing for a few days from jealous fans
of other drivers/teams. <yawn>
David G Fisher
> > > What Ferrari did denied all the Austrian fans of the joy they would
> > > have experienced if Rubens had won. As stoic as he was during the
> > > press conference, team orders defeat the purpose of racing. The best
> > > man and car should win. I hope Ferrari learns from this.
> > > This is why most Americans will never understand or enjoy F1, all they
> > > will see is that Shucey was handed the win and didn't earn it.
> > > Wayne
> > > (A very irate American F1 Fan)
> > Actually today's fiasco reminded me of a good percentage of the NASCAR
> > races I've watched, in terms of fixing who gets to win.
> > cheers
> > John
> Funny how when Waltrip just sat there and let Earnhardt take the Talladega
> win, it was just accepted as something that's done all the time.
> Now we get to hear Ferrari and MS bashing for a few days from jealous fans
> of other drivers/teams. <yawn>
> David G Fisher
As far as accepting "all the time" per above in Nascar races ? Don't
think so.............don't know who said that, but it wasn't me <G>
-John
> > > > What Ferrari did denied all the Austrian fans of the joy they would
> > > > have experienced if Rubens had won. As stoic as he was during the
> > > > press conference, team orders defeat the purpose of racing. The
best
> > > > man and car should win. I hope Ferrari learns from this.
> > > > This is why most Americans will never understand or enjoy F1, all
they
> > > > will see is that Shucey was handed the win and didn't earn it.
> > > > Wayne
> > > > (A very irate American F1 Fan)
> > > Actually today's fiasco reminded me of a good percentage of the NASCAR
> > > races I've watched, in terms of fixing who gets to win.
> > > cheers
> > > John
> > Funny how when Waltrip just sat there and let Earnhardt take the
Talladega
> > win, it was just accepted as something that's done all the time.
> > Now we get to hear Ferrari and MS bashing for a few days from jealous
fans
> > of other drivers/teams. <yawn>
> > David G Fisher
> I think it's safe to say what happened today, has happened all the time
in
> F1 also, just a bit more blatant this time, but what's the difference
> between that an ordering someone into the pits, as has happened in F1
since
> stops were started ?
> As far as accepting "all the time" per above in Nascar races ? Don't
> think so.............don't know who said that, but it wasn't me <G>
> -John
David G Fisher
Achim
...
Well I guess he added some orange paint to his car in an effort for more
coverage :-)
Achim
...
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> > > > > What Ferrari did denied all the Austrian fans of the joy they
would
> > > > > have experienced if Rubens had won. As stoic as he was during the
> > > > > press conference, team orders defeat the purpose of racing. The
> best
> > > > > man and car should win. I hope Ferrari learns from this.
> > > > > This is why most Americans will never understand or enjoy F1, all
> they
> > > > > will see is that Shucey was handed the win and didn't earn it.
> > > > > Wayne
> > > > > (A very irate American F1 Fan)
> > > > Actually today's fiasco reminded me of a good percentage of the
NASCAR
> > > > races I've watched, in terms of fixing who gets to win.
> > > > cheers
> > > > John
> > > Funny how when Waltrip just sat there and let Earnhardt take the
> Talladega
> > > win, it was just accepted as something that's done all the time.
> > > Now we get to hear Ferrari and MS bashing for a few days from jealous
> fans
> > > of other drivers/teams. <yawn>
> > > David G Fisher
> > I think it's safe to say what happened today, has happened all the
time
> in
> > F1 also, just a bit more blatant this time, but what's the difference
> > between that an ordering someone into the pits, as has happened in F1
> since
> > stops were started ?
> > As far as accepting "all the time" per above in Nascar races ? Don't
> > think so.............don't know who said that, but it wasn't me <G>
> > -John
> Just finished reading through this thread and all I can say is it's full
of
> bullshit from the usual F1/MS bashers and some mello-drama queens.
Tempting
> to respond to a few of them, but I've got some better things to do right
> now.
> David G Fisher
-John
No, I wasn't. Sorry about that.
David G Fisher
