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F1 2001 - I'm sold!

Rob Swindell

F1 2001 - I'm sold!

by Rob Swindell » Wed, 10 Oct 2001 06:55:46

Truely taken by this one! Feels great to drive, some tweaks are
available at SimRacingNews.com and I'm lovin' it.

F1 2001 > GP3 2000, IMHO

Dave Henri

F1 2001 - I'm sold!

by Dave Henri » Wed, 10 Oct 2001 07:15:55

  I'm waiting for DGF's critique...:)
dave henrie

J. Janaso

F1 2001 - I'm sold!

by J. Janaso » Wed, 10 Oct 2001 10:26:13

Is it out in the US yet?  Haven't seen it in Atlanta yet?

J. Janasov


>   I'm waiting for DGF's critique...:)
> dave henrie


> > Truely taken by this one! Feels great to drive, some tweaks are
> > available at SimRacingNews.com and I'm lovin' it.

> > F1 2001 > GP3 2000, IMHO

murchma

F1 2001 - I'm sold!

by murchma » Wed, 10 Oct 2001 10:37:19

No it's not in the US yet. Last I heard was around the 19th of October for
the US.


> Is it out in the US yet?  Haven't seen it in Atlanta yet?

> J. Janasov



> >   I'm waiting for DGF's critique...:)
> > dave henrie


> > > Truely taken by this one! Feels great to drive, some tweaks are
> > > available at SimRacingNews.com and I'm lovin' it.

> > > F1 2001 > GP3 2000, IMHO

David G Fishe

F1 2001 - I'm sold!

by David G Fishe » Wed, 10 Oct 2001 15:05:19

What do you mean by that comment?

DGF


>   I'm waiting for DGF's critique...:)
> dave henrie


> > Truely taken by this one! Feels great to drive, some tweaks are
> > available at SimRacingNews.com and I'm lovin' it.

> > F1 2001 > GP3 2000, IMHO

Dave Henri

F1 2001 - I'm sold!

by Dave Henri » Wed, 10 Oct 2001 15:39:22

  Hi!  It's just everyone is either gushing with praise or pulling their
hair out.  Thought I'd wait til you weighed in.   Cheap shot...sorry.!
dave henrie


Ashley McConnel

F1 2001 - I'm sold!

by Ashley McConnel » Wed, 10 Oct 2001 17:46:32

David,

Have you tried F1 2001?  I was a big fan of F1RC (except for the AI), but F1
2001 when run with the "right" drivers (grrr) is definitely a cut above.
Definitely worth a look, i'll be interested in your view,

All the best,
Ash

| > > Truely taken by this one! Feels great to drive, some tweaks are
| > > available at SimRacingNews.com and I'm lovin' it.
| > >
| > > F1 2001 > GP3 2000, IMHO
| > >
| >
| >
|

Remco Moe

F1 2001 - I'm sold!

by Remco Moe » Wed, 10 Oct 2001 23:53:19

On Mon, 08 Oct 2001 22:55:46 +0100, Rob Swindells


>Truely taken by this one! Feels great to drive, some tweaks are
>available at SimRacingNews.com and I'm lovin' it.

>F1 2001 > GP3 2000, IMHO

It's nice, no doubt. However, there are some problems with F1 2001.
Multiplay doesn't work for now. Too much warping, cars put on the grid
in the same spot, hitting invisible obstacles. No prediction code for
the other cars, sometimes they're going very fast to make up lost
distance due to dropped packets. I also don't understand the need
for 4 practice, 1 qualify and a warmup session for multiplay.

Further you don't see the time left in each session. If you leave the
qualify session, and return, you've another 12 laps to qualify. It's
not possible to enter a chatline while in car. I also don't understand
why the chatwindow is so small, maybe 20% of the available space.
If the host or game starts the race, you don't have the ability to
select/modify your setup/strategy.  

On the track, sometimes the other cars looks very weird, only front
wing with front wheels for example. Another problem is, the other cars
become invisible when they're about 300 meters away. Very annoying.
The other cars don't seem to have contact with the road. Nope,
multiplay for now is too frustrating to be fun.

Offline it's not too bad. Physics are ok, graphics are good, sound in
car is great. Outside the sound is mediocre. I can't comment on the AI
yet. Controller setup is mediocre. I feel there is major lag, it seems
to beCPU load related. What I really like is the feel of power the car
has. Without any aids you can't drive away full throttle very easily,
you've to be cautious.

Braking the same, once your speed drop, you've to be aware the car's
behaviour changes once the downforce effect is less. No more full laps
with locked frontwheels, as in F1RC. Riding the curb is possible, but
it can upset the car.  Yup, driving the car, apart from the controller
lag, is fun.

The setup management is awfull. Yes, you can assign a favorite setup
for each track, but you still have to load it. No folder for each
track, all setups are saved in 1 folder. That will be fun if you've an
average of 5 setups  for each chassis, for each track...  (that's 880
setups...)

If you change a setting, and you save it, you've to type the setupname
again, even if you want to overwrite it. Is a Save and Save as option
to hard for EA? When you do a testsession, everytime you're in the
pits it seems to revert to the default setup. In car you see the
overal tyre temp, but when in the garage, there is no way to see  the
tyre temps. No inner/center/outer temps, so it's not easy to setup the
camber. I also miss the toe settings. And, no telemetry...

Conclusion: The base is good, but some parts aren't implemented well.
For me the controller lag and setup management are a bit of a pleasure
killer. The first might be my system, so probable that's solvable. The
latter however, I fear that will not be addressed in a patch.

Remco

Dave Ryerso

F1 2001 - I'm sold!

by Dave Ryerso » Thu, 11 Oct 2001 00:28:55



>Conclusion: The base is good, but some parts aren't implemented well.
>For me the controller lag and setup management are a bit of a pleasure
>killer. The first might be my system, so probable that's solvable. The
>latter however, I fear that will not be addressed in a patch.

>Remco

Is your wheel USB? Do you have a USB hub? I ask this because I found
out recently that the ports on your USB host controller share the
12.8mb/s. So if you have more than one device on the host controller
and especially if you are using a hub, then you might get lag because
they are sharing the available bandwidth. The best way around it is to
get an ADS PCI Quadro Turbo USB host controller, each of the four
ports on this card has it's own host controller so each port gets the
full 12.8mb/s. Doubt this is your problem because you would see it in
other games too, just a FYI.
Remco Moe

F1 2001 - I'm sold!

by Remco Moe » Thu, 11 Oct 2001 00:35:11

Hi Dave,

Nope, I use a soundblaster live gameport with an hyperstim. Thanks for
the information, though!

Remco





>>Conclusion: The base is good, but some parts aren't implemented well.
>>For me the controller lag and setup management are a bit of a pleasure
>>killer. The first might be my system, so probable that's solvable. The
>>latter however, I fear that will not be addressed in a patch.

>Is your wheel USB? Do you have a USB hub? I ask this because I found
>out recently that the ports on your USB host controller share the
>12.8mb/s. So if you have more than one device on the host controller
>and especially if you are using a hub, then you might get lag because
>they are sharing the available bandwidth. The best way around it is to
>get an ADS PCI Quadro Turbo USB host controller, each of the four
>ports on this card has it's own host controller so each port gets the
>full 12.8mb/s. Doubt this is your problem because you would see it in
>other games too, just a FYI.

Ashley McConnel

F1 2001 - I'm sold!

by Ashley McConnel » Thu, 11 Oct 2001 00:56:15

Hi Remerooo

I have instant response using my MSFF in the gameport, absolutely no probs.

WinME
512 RAM
1.2 Athlon
Geforce 2 GTS
Sonic Fury (Turtle Beach - Santa Cruz) Sound Card

All the best,
Ash


|
| Hi Dave,
|
| Nope, I use a soundblaster live gameport with an hyperstim. Thanks for
| the information, though!
|
| Remco
|
|
|

David G Fishe

F1 2001 - I'm sold!

by David G Fishe » Thu, 11 Oct 2001 05:42:22

No, I haven't tried it because as far as I know, it hasn't been released yet
here in the U.S. Really wish I could. Frustrating.

David G Fisher


David G Fishe

F1 2001 - I'm sold!

by David G Fishe » Thu, 11 Oct 2001 05:43:51

Based on the opinions of Iain and some others, I'm pretty positive I'm going
to like it alot.

David G Fisher


>   Hi!  It's just everyone is either gushing with praise or pulling their
> hair out.  Thought I'd wait til you weighed in.   Cheap shot...sorry.!
> dave henrie


> > What do you mean by that comment?

> > DGF

Tony Rickar

F1 2001 - I'm sold!

by Tony Rickar » Thu, 11 Oct 2001 06:02:39

Well it does mean we guinea pigs will have sorted out the solutions to
making this sim fly by the time you get it!

Have your list of tweaks ready for when you do get it. These include

For those with geforce cards - a number of drivers to try (12.41 work for
me - loads of different tales)
Edit the config.ini file to try windowed mode
Update the car textures if you want tobacco adverts etc. (coming out
already)
Edit the default.cfg file to alter***pit view to give more perspective (a
bit like the option in GP3)
Edit default.cfg to alter T-cam view to include helmet
Edit default.cfg to add on-board cameras for AI
Edit player.plr to add shadows for T-Cam view
Edit f1car.gen to change lod values so cars don't disappear from view (no
hit on fps)
Some even find running FRAPS improves frame rate.
...and probably some more...

Phew - this is after how many days since release?

Having done all this settle down and enjoy

Cheers

Tony

Dave Ryerso

F1 2001 - I'm sold!

by Dave Ryerso » Thu, 11 Oct 2001 08:49:31

On Tue, 09 Oct 2001 20:42:22 GMT, "David G Fisher"


>No, I haven't tried it because as far as I know, it hasn't been released yet
>here in the U.S. Really wish I could. Frustrating.

>David G Fisher

EB Canada says Thursday or Friday.

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