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F1 2001 - I'm sold!

David G Fishe

F1 2001 - I'm sold!

by David G Fishe » Sat, 13 Oct 2001 05:15:29


Those were my exact words..........dear friend?

The tracks in F1RC are close to perfect, and I will be disappointed if the
tracks in following F1 sims aren't as good. Definitely. If the developer
doesn't use GPS, then their tracks won't be as accurate. That fact alone
won't keep me from using the sim though. Rally Tophy's tracks aren't real at
all, but I'm looking forward to that sim.

David G Fisher

David G Fishe

F1 2001 - I'm sold!

by David G Fishe » Sat, 13 Oct 2001 05:40:12

Forgot something. My main concern right now is actually the "view" as I'm
driving around those tracks. F12000/CS had a sort of fish-eye view which I
didn't like at all. I hope that's gone now.

David G Fisher





> > I just warned David about the non-accuracy of some tracks because a
> > couple of weeks ago he wrote he wouldn't be interested in any sim if
> > the tracks were not accurate. As a good friend, it was my duty to warn
> > him.

> Those were my exact words..........dear friend?

> The tracks in F1RC are close to perfect, and I will be disappointed if the
> tracks in following F1 sims aren't as good. Definitely. If the developer
> doesn't use GPS, then their tracks won't be as accurate. That fact alone
> won't keep me from using the sim though. Rally Tophy's tracks aren't real
at
> all, but I'm looking forward to that sim.

> David G Fisher

Andre Warring

F1 2001 - I'm sold!

by Andre Warring » Sat, 13 Oct 2001 06:03:38

On Thu, 11 Oct 2001 20:15:29 GMT, "David G Fisher"




>> I just warned David about the non-accuracy of some tracks because a
>> couple of weeks ago he wrote he wouldn't be interested in any sim if
>> the tracks were not accurate. As a good friend, it was my duty to warn
>> him.

>Those were my exact words..........dear friend?

>The tracks in F1RC are close to perfect, and I will be disappointed if the
>tracks in following F1 sims aren't as good. Definitely. If the developer
>doesn't use GPS, then their tracks won't be as accurate. That fact alone
>won't keep me from using the sim though. Rally Tophy's tracks aren't real at
>all, but I'm looking forward to that sim.

>David G Fisher

I was referring to this post from you:

"I know, based on real life/F1RC side by side track comparisons, that
the F1RC tracks are almost perfect. If the F12001 tracks aren't just
as accurate, then that would be disappointing."

Just wanted to warn you before you spent your hard-earned money on F1
2001, the tracks are not as accurate as in F1RC, so you will be
disappointed.

Don't mention it, that's what friends are for!

Andre

Andre Warring

F1 2001 - I'm sold!

by Andre Warring » Sat, 13 Oct 2001 06:05:27

On Thu, 11 Oct 2001 20:40:12 GMT, "David G Fisher"


>Forgot something. My main concern right now is actually the "view" as I'm
>driving around those tracks. F12000/CS had a sort of fish-eye view which I
>didn't like at all. I hope that's gone now.

>David G Fisher

If I understood correctly that can be adjusted manually now..

Andre

Haqsa

F1 2001 - I'm sold!

by Haqsa » Sat, 13 Oct 2001 08:45:12




<snip>
> For now I uninstalled f1 2001 because I can't get my controller
> working correctly. I'll try adjusting the fov once I installed it
> again and have it working, thanks for the tip, I didn't even know it
> was possible in f1 2001 :)
> It's a simple adjustment in one of the ini files I asume? The
> config.ini file?

Er, I don't have F1 2001 yet, so I can't tell you for sure.  :-(   I
know it was adjustable in F1CS2K and I believe I saw a message from
somebody in the High Gear forums who had figured out how to adjust it in
F1 2001.  It's probably a pretty straightforward hack, since ISI likes
to keep those kind of settings in text files.  Just search for the
string "FOV" in the F1 2001 folder and you will probably find it.
Please post the solution if you find it, I'm sure there are other people
interested in it.
Haqsa

F1 2001 - I'm sold!

by Haqsa » Sat, 13 Oct 2001 08:46:50

Maybe you're just used to driving cars with numb steering.  ;oP




> >   That was true in f12k and CS but I 'think' I saw somebody post
here that
> > the deadzone stays at zero now in 2k+((5-1)/2)-2+1

> I never had to do that in F1 2000 CS. Maybe I'm just a better
> driver :-)

> --



M??rio Pire

F1 2001 - I'm sold!

by M??rio Pire » Sun, 14 Oct 2001 02:48:35

Hi Andre
Can you indicate the link to obtain this utility : GPL FOV ?
Thanks
Mrio




> >Andre,

> >In another thread in this newsgroup which you started, you mentioned a
> >GPL utility to change FOV.  I went to the link you gave, read the
> >messages and looked at the screenshots.

> Don't just look at the screenshots, install GPLFOV and try it, you
> have to experience it to see how great it is :)

> >Among the comments I have seen
> >is how much different the tracks look when you change the FOV.

> Correct, all the tracks have so much more depth now.. on Monza for
> example you don't notice too much difference, but hilly tracks like
> the Ring, Zandvoort and Bremgarten have so much depth now..
> Also you have a much better feeling in the corners, I can just corners
> and distances better, I really think it makes me a much more
> consistent driver..

> >In GPL
> >the FOV is probably too wide, so narrowing it a little makes sense.

> Yep, default view is 78 degrees, I reduced it to 50 degrees which is
> much better.

> >I think ISI's games have the opposite problem.  I don't have F1 2001 yet,
> >but I have F1CS2K and I always thought the FOV in F1CS2K was too narrow.
> >Lately I have been playing with a wider FOV and I really think it
> >improves the appearance.  However I don't really know if the tracks look
> >more accurate or not, since I have never been to any of them.  I just
> >wonder if the criticism ISI always seems to get about track accuracy is
> >really just due to the FOV.  For example, I think I read a review
> >somewhere where it was said that ISI had overemphasized the height of
> >Eau Rouge.  A wider FOV would decrease the vertical size of hills and
> >bumps, thus it should fix problems like that.  Try a slightly wider FOV
> >with F1 2001 and see if the tracks look any better.  I would like to
> >know what you think.

> Well, some tracks are made really nice and some suck. I'm no track
> expert, but even I can see that Suzuka and Monza are close to real
> life while Hungaroring seems more like a fantasytrack.

> I don't really care that much about this though, I think it's much
> more important that the sim itself is good, and if the tracks are a
> tad different than their real-life, who cares :)

> I just warned David about the non-accuracy of some tracks because a
> couple of weeks ago he wrote he wouldn't be interested in any sim if
> the tracks were not accurate. As a good friend, it was my duty to warn
> him.

> For now I uninstalled f1 2001 because I can't get my controller
> working correctly. I'll try adjusting the fov once I installed it
> again and have it working, thanks for the tip, I didn't even know it
> was possible in f1 2001 :)
> It's a simple adjustment in one of the ini files I asume? The
> config.ini file?

> PS I don't think the inaccuracy of the tracks is due to a wrong fov,
> since some tracks like Suzuka are quite good with the default fov..
> and Eau Rouge too steep in f1 2001? The one who told you that should
> visit Spa in real life sometimes :) The closest to real life version I
> saw was a beta version of a Spa 1980 layout for GPL. S-t-e-e-p :)

> Andre

Andre Warrin

F1 2001 - I'm sold!

by Andre Warrin » Tue, 16 Oct 2001 16:53:24

On Fri, 12 Oct 2001 18:48:35 +0100, "Mrio Pires"


>Hi Andre
>Can you indicate the link to obtain this utility : GPL FOV ?
>Thanks
>Mrio

Hi Mario, here you go:
http://www.nitronuts.btinternet.co.uk/nitronuts/fovsa.htm

Andre


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