rec.autos.simulators

> On Thu, 01 Oct 1998 09:34:47 GMT John Wallace

> % On Thu, 01 Oct 1998 01:15:14 GMT, "Michael E. Carver"

> % >We can stretch this argument until it gets thin.  Restarting a race
event
> % >because one crashed out on lap 32, isn't very realistic either.

> % Perhaps you can stretch the argument until it gets thin but I prefer
> % to do so only while it remains realistic. I don't see where you get
> % the "not very realistic" - I'm not sure where you managed to buy your
> % real-life car with the save race function and Shift-R but I must
> % confess to never having seen one. I used to go home, fix my car, then
> % go back to the racetrack and try again.

> Well, my point is who the hell makes the "decision" when to cross the
> barrier between a "realistic" simulation and an "enjoyable" simulation?

>> Perhaps enduros are not totally ruled out though.  There is no reason
>> that you couldn't run several "stages" through the internet
>> (multiplayer!!!) with cumulative gaps added up through the stages.
>   Yes, but in my experience so far in the distant land of Aus, not only are pings an
>issue but simply being able to hold a connection is often difficult. I had a multi race
>recently with someone in Cali with a cable modem with a few dropouts in fact. Maybe that
>would change with a different ISP and/or if I also had a cable modem or at least a 56.6
>instead of my aging 33.6 :) I don't wanna get to hour 24 in the lead of the A1 Ring 24 and
>get cut off :((((((( LOL.

>--
> Byron Forbes
> Captain of Team Lightning Bolt

> http://members.tripod.com/~HOSHUMUNGUS

>    and

> http://www.frontiernet.net/~godsoe/bolt/home.htm

> Hey Byron,

> That is one of my major gripes with current online racing, say N2 on
> TEN.  If the software could somehow gracefully handle disconnects by
> say, allowing one to reconnect and at least rejoin from the pits, it
> would be much better.  Losing a lap or two is much preferred to a DNF,
> particularly in a NASCAR sim with the deep points paying positions.

> I suppose that in time online racing will continue to improve as the
> net gets better (I hope).

> Clark A. (ace29 on TEN)

> >> Perhaps enduros are not totally ruled out though.  There is no reason
> >> that you couldn't run several "stages" through the internet
> >> (multiplayer!!!) with cumulative gaps added up through the stages.

> >   Yes, but in my experience so far in the distant land of Aus, not only are pings an
> >issue but simply being able to hold a connection is often difficult. I had a multi race
> >recently with someone in Cali with a cable modem with a few dropouts in fact. Maybe that
> >would change with a different ISP and/or if I also had a cable modem or at least a 56.6
> >instead of my aging 33.6 :) I don't wanna get to hour 24 in the lead of the A1 Ring 24 and
> >get cut off :((((((( LOL.

> >--
> > Byron Forbes
> > Captain of Team Lightning Bolt

> > http://www.racesimcentral.net/~HOSHUMUNGUS

> >    and

> > http://www.racesimcentral.net/~godsoe/bolt/home.htm

> Yeah I know, just pulling your leg <g> I've said previously that I would
> like to run a true 24 hour race (i.e. one where the AI would last the
> distance in a single race) but only if I could restrict it to 3 hours or so
> at a time <g>
> We all bump into each other every day of our lives, and we render our opinions
> whether we know anything or not, and if anybody catches us out we lie...

> Feel free to provide superior data.  The retort below was insufficient.

> Kurt

> > > I just picked up the REAL game from EB.  Using them as a gauge of what
> the
> > > "real world" thinks the expected sales would be, I asked the sales
> clerk
> > > how many copies of GPL he got in.

> > > Two.

> > Thanks for your highly scientific analysis.  Your information was a real
> > contribution to this discussion.

> > - Rick

> That is one of my major gripes with current online racing, say N2 on
> TEN.  If the software could somehow gracefully handle disconnects by
> say, allowing one to reconnect and at least rejoin from the pits, it
> would be much better.  Losing a lap or two is much preferred to a
> DNF, particularly in a NASCAR sim with the deep points paying
> positions.
> I suppose that in time online racing will continue to improve as the
> net gets better (I hope).