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90% of the posts about the warez version have been from people using
the pirated copy as a demo. Some of those have said they will purchase
the game on release, the others have said that they will remove it from
their systems. Personally I don't believe in warez, but I did download
this game. No, I won't be purchasing it until the Voodoo 5 comes out
for two reasons. My system can't handle this game under race
conditions and I find the graphics distracting with anti-aliasing.
So in the spirit of sharing, go *** yourself too Mr. Cisko.
-AndrewS
ps. I think I heard the bell ring, recess is over.
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Before you buy.
But your response is typical of the rationalizations we read here. *Anyone*
who doesn't buy the game after using the downloaded game has cheated EA.
They had full use of the full product (it doesn't matter if it is 1 minute
or 1 week) without paying anything. Doesn't matter if you liked it or
didn't like it. I merely point this out. I refrain from attaching personal
insults, because I copied games back in the days of C64s. That's a long
while ago, and a lot of intervening years have given me a little more
perspective. Having published some of my work, I can begin to understand
the hardline approach people take to copyright issues.
Considering that EA almost always releases a demo, why the rush?
Stephen
Andre
>I bet everyone feels guilty now that Greg "go *** yourselves" Cisko
>has passed judgement.
>90% of the posts about the warez version have been from people using
>the pirated copy as a demo. Some of those have said they will purchase
>the game on release, the others have said that they will remove it from
>their systems. Personally I don't believe in warez, but I did download
>this game. No, I won't be purchasing it until the Voodoo 5 comes out
>for two reasons. My system can't handle this game under race
>conditions and I find the graphics distracting with anti-aliasing.
>So in the spirit of sharing, go *** yourself too Mr. Cisko.
>-AndrewS
>ps. I think I heard the bell ring, recess is over.
>Sent via Deja.com http://www.racesimcentral.net/
>Before you buy.
On to some warez issues. In it's time I downloaded the leaked GPL
pre-production version and still bought the retail GPL. In fact i bought the
second copy of GPL as a backup disk, but that was more of a saying thank you
Papy for the best sim ever! Here in Slovenia you can't buy a game and return
it with full refound just because you didn't liked it. Furthermore, i'm the
type of person that can't wait couple of weeks to read all the reviews on
certain sim and then buy it or not. I must have it first! I bought GP2,
Indycar2, Nascar2, F1 Racing Simulation ( i burned myself on this one ), GPL
the very first moment they were available.
So, now you must think that i have F1 2000. No, i don't! Couldn't find the
link and still it would be too big a download for my analog line. Those are
two main reasons i don't have it and only then there is that m***issue.
I hear so much about the "fact" that if we pirate software the software
companies will have less money to develope good titles and similar nonsense.
Have you ever thought about how much money software companies "stole" from
you? State of the art graphics, ultra realistic, most advanced, blah,
blah... for a sim that you deleted after two weeks.
To make this story even longer, the software market isn't functioning well.
We have bad, good, superb sims going for virtually the same price. How can
one know which sim is good if the price doesn't hold that information in it.
Unless you follow the making of the sim through r.a.s. or some other chanel
of information you have an odd chance of getting what you paid for.
Warez version of F1 2000 is for me a very good demo. It's like EA PR
department can say anything if you want to belive them. Others can try it
out and see it with their own eyes. You can't have a realistic race at Monza
with words EA is feeding us with so i can understand people TRYING out the
warez. If this was the EA Sports game i would buy it for sure as they are
the best out there as for the simulations from EA i hope one day they are
the best too, so Geoff and Papy would work even harder.
Borut
Andre
On Thu, 23 Mar 2000 17:31:57 +0100, "Borut Srebotnik"
I have never hid the fact I downloaded it, neither have I used any device
other than anti-spam in posting about it to hide my identity. If EA want to
make an issue out of this, they know where to find me.
I did the right thing, however. I presented myself at my local software
store today. They hadn't received a copy of F1 2000 yet, so I had one
reserved for me.
In the mean time both the zips and the expanded version have been securely
(i.e. irrevocably) erased from my system, the registry hack has been removed
as well.
I can not speak for everybody who downloaded the "ripped" version, but I
don't want to be called an *** on their behalf either.
Jan.
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>But your response is typical of the rationalizations we read here. *Anyone*
>who doesn't buy the game after using the downloaded game has cheated EA.
>They had full use of the full product (it doesn't matter if it is 1 minute
>or 1 week) without paying anything. Doesn't matter if you liked it or
>didn't like it. I merely point this out. I refrain from attaching personal
>insults, because I copied games back in the days of C64s. That's a long
>while ago, and a lot of intervening years have given me a little more
>perspective. Having published some of my work, I can begin to understand
>the hardline approach people take to copyright issues.
>Considering that EA almost always releases a demo, why the rush?
Yes, EA will problably release a demo. After running it myself(not the
demo!), I know that running with a full field will be *** most
systems. Will this problem be there in the demo? Also, there are a lot
of racinggame demos, where some features, like the physics, are dumbed
down. They promise the whole deal in the release version, but when you
buy the release version, it often is dissapointing. RC2000 anyone? The
GPL demo wasn't very honest aswell, the AI is very demanding on the
CPU...
Beside that, since software makers force me to put the CD in the
drive, I can understand warez people a little more.After all, those
warez people even have a better copy then I have! And I paid for it!
I will keep buying the games I play, and I will not download warez,
but if I've the chance to test a warez version, I will....
Remco
they have patches for about every game so you do not have to have your CD in
the drive.
I personally hate to have to keep my CDs in the drive, the main reason is
that I always have about 10-15 games install on my machine at one time since
we do alot of lan ***. I do not like having to find each cd when I want
to play.
These patches are not illegal unlike the warez versions of games (which I do
not believe in at all, but you have probably read my posts on this and
already know that).
> Beside that, since software makers force me to put the CD in the
> drive, I can understand warez people a little more.After all, those
> warez people even have a better copy then I have! And I paid for it!
> I will keep buying the games I play, and I will not download warez,
> but if I've the chance to test a warez version, I will....
> Remco
Excellent point!!
> I bet everyone feels guilty now that Greg "go *** yourselves" Cisko
> has passed judgement.
Well I believe this is the new defination of hypocricy. You don;t believe
in it but you did it anyway... Cool.
Interesting that you think Voodoo5 will be the answer. I think you
will need a faster CPU.
Noted.
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Really!?! I'll try to keep that in mind pal.
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> >> You people can go *** yourselves. Yeah, I'm sure everyone will
> >> pile out an get the game when it is released. "Oh wait, voodoo5/6
> >> isn't out yet, I'm not going to buy the game. I'll just play this
> >warez
> >> version instead." Right.
> >I bet everyone feels guilty now that Greg "go *** yourselves" Cisko
> >has passed judgement.
> >90% of the posts about the warez version have been from people using
> >the pirated copy as a demo. Some of those have said they will purchase
> >the game on release, the others have said that they will remove it from
> >their systems. Personally I don't believe in warez, but I did download
> >this game. No, I won't be purchasing it until the Voodoo 5 comes out
> >for two reasons. My system can't handle this game under race
> >conditions and I find the graphics distracting with anti-aliasing.
> >So in the spirit of sharing, go *** yourself too Mr. Cisko.
> >-AndrewS
> >ps. I think I heard the bell ring, recess is over.
> >Sent via Deja.com http://www.racesimcentral.net/
> >Before you buy.
Great... What is with the editorial?
I can understand people trying it out too. But this game has been
way over warez'd IMHO. I really don't have an issue with it until I hear
some *** claim that they won't buy it; but "oh hell yeah" they
will still continue to play their warez version and evaluate it.***
those people.
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I am learning quite a bit.
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> On Thu, 23 Mar 2000 17:31:57 +0100, "Borut Srebotnik"
> >It's always nice to hear a good use of English language. As i'm not
native
> >english speaker i can learn a lot from reading some well structured and
> >argumented posts here on r.a.s. Yours will have a portion of my disk
space
> >forever. I'm going to save it and open it every time i feel too embarased
to
> >post here. It will show me that i shouldn't be too shy to post here just
> >because i feel that my posts aren't carrying the desired idea because of
the
> >limitations in my knowledge of English language.
Oh boo-hoo. Do you feel personally offended? Big freaking hairy
deal.
Very *VERY* macho. Wow.
Good for you. My comments are for the aholes that were *not* doing
that. Duh. I realize that english may not be your first language, but
really.
Big pat on the back for you.
Ok already... I think you can calm down now.
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