1) Save race feature like a red flag event
2) SHIFT-R instant restart
3) Ability to disable***pit bobbing movement
4) Permantent CTRL-L leader notification
5) F2/ENTER combination to alternate
between instant interval and once per lap status.
WRT
Press the spacebar for instant interval
btw: I like the save race idea for red flagged league events :-)
There is already the F2/space... ??
--
Mika Takala
Mike :)
| JMHO,
| I could do without the shift-R. Biggest contributor to people not
learning how
| to drive on the start.
|
| Mike :)
How does forcing one to reload the track rather than just hitting a restart
button help them learn how to drive on the start when either way you still
end up at exactly the same place, it's just that one method is
instantaneous and the other, the one you advocate, requires 7 or 8 mouse
clicks and 20-30 seconds to reload the track? Is that your slant? You
think the gamer should be punished for screwing up, in the form of using up
his *** time with "loading" screens, instead of letting him just press
Shift-R and get an instant restart? The reality is with Shift-R someone
can wreck and restart four or five races in the same amount of time it
currently takes to***up, exit and reload ONE. Do you really believe
punishing them with a reload screen is a more effective learning tool than
the one that offers five times as much sheer practice? Would anyone really
admit to such idiotic thinking?
All that really happens is people get tired of waiting for the non-sensical
track reloads and they solve their problem by exiting the frustrating game
altogether rather than give it another wasted minute of their time. In the
long run that hurts YOU, the true N4 aficionado, more than it hurts them.
And you're applauding this functionality? Bizarre, indeed.
So, tell me. How is "start, crash, exit, reload, wait, wait, wait,
restart, crash, reload, wait, wait, wait, etc." a better tool for learning
how to start a race than "start, crash, restart, crash, restart, etc."?
- Rick
I think you're 180 degrees wrong here. If people could set up and easily
access an offline game of their choice, and could restart it easily and
save it when they're doing good, they'd probably be much LESS likely to get
online until they've had some fun races offline, thereby gaining
experience whether they meant to or not. Since you can't do anything
offline except start a race and run until you crash, be at on the first lap
or the last, I think people are much more likely to say, "screw this, let
me see if I can find a good game online."
Hope you have your sarcasm cup ready to catch all those drops. :)
All the best,
Rick
I do all my track "learning" in testing mode, with damage off, and shift-r
works very well there. I practice many many laps like this, until I feel I
am very consistant and know how far I can push the car.
--
Don Burnette
D Burnette in N4
Some people do nothing wrong.
The problem is, they do nothing.
And THAT is wrong.
> >Hey Rick! I just read your other post, nearly wore me out! My point
> >about shift-R is that if you don't want to go through all the garbage
> >that you just stated, then BE CAREFUL on the starts.
> You do know that the only way to get better is to practice, right? Not
> just to be more careful, but to practice so you can come to learn how
> careful is careful enough. You don't get that from being
> intentionally careful, you get that from *practicing*. And in N4,
> practicing is frankly a pain in the ***because you can only race until
> the first mistake, then you have to start ALL THE WAY OVER again,
including
> reloading the track and all that garbage. :-)
> > By using shift-r you can just make a headlong rush to the first turn at
> >watkins glen, crash out the field, shift-R and do it again. After a few
> >times of that, gee, it seems as though your ready for online racing!
> >Yahoo! (Watch out so you don't get sprayed with the dripping sarcasm
> >there! :)) JMHO Mike
> I think you're 180 degrees wrong here. If people could set up and easily
> access an offline game of their choice, and could restart it easily and
> save it when they're doing good, they'd probably be much LESS likely to
get
> online until they've had some fun races offline, thereby gaining
> experience whether they meant to or not. Since you can't do anything
> offline except start a race and run until you crash, be at on the first
lap
> or the last, I think people are much more likely to say, "screw this, let
> me see if I can find a good game online."
> Hope you have your sarcasm cup ready to catch all those drops. :)
> All the best,
> Rick
Also do something with the AI... they need a spotter so they can tell that
I'm beside them and not crash into me.
| Fwiw,
|
| I do all my track "learning" in testing mode, with damage off, and shift-r
| works very well there. I practice many many laps like this, until I feel I
| am very consistant and know how far I can push the car.
|
| --
| Don Burnette
| D Burnette in N4
|
| Some people do nothing wrong.
| The problem is, they do nothing.
| And THAT is wrong.
|
| >
| > >Hey Rick! I just read your other post, nearly wore me out! My point
| > >about shift-R is that if you don't want to go through all the garbage
| > >that you just stated, then BE CAREFUL on the starts.
| >
| > You do know that the only way to get better is to practice, right? Not
| > just to be more careful, but to practice so you can come to learn how
| > careful is careful enough. You don't get that from being
| > intentionally careful, you get that from *practicing*. And in N4,
| > practicing is frankly a pain in the ***because you can only race until
| > the first mistake, then you have to start ALL THE WAY OVER again,
| including
| > reloading the track and all that garbage. :-)
| >
| > > By using shift-r you can just make a headlong rush to the first turn
at
| > >watkins glen, crash out the field, shift-R and do it again. After a
few
| > >times of that, gee, it seems as though your ready for online racing!
| > >Yahoo! (Watch out so you don't get sprayed with the dripping sarcasm
| > >there! :)) JMHO Mike
| >
| > I think you're 180 degrees wrong here. If people could set up and
easily
| > access an offline game of their choice, and could restart it easily and
| > save it when they're doing good, they'd probably be much LESS likely to
| get
| > online until they've had some fun races offline, thereby gaining
| > experience whether they meant to or not. Since you can't do anything
| > offline except start a race and run until you crash, be at on the first
| lap
| > or the last, I think people are much more likely to say, "screw this,
let
| > me see if I can find a good game online."
| >
| > Hope you have your sarcasm cup ready to catch all those drops. :)
| >
| > All the best,
| > Rick
|
|
I save after a good qualifying round and before the warmup session
(quickrace off) so I can use the warmup session when reloading to
familiarize myself with the track before racing. After saving it the first
time, be sure to answer No on exiting the track in subsequent runnings or
else you'll lose the warmup period (it being the new last completed
session).
I haven't driven to the end of a race but if it's like GPL (and if my
memory is correct), saved games are deleted once you finish the race. If
you don't want to have to re-qualify, don't finish a race. Or, make a copy
of the saved game(s) (*.svg) in \nascar4\players\[yourname]\savegame.
As you can see, I'm doing everything I can to keep from sitting through
that dang reload screen any more than necessary -- lol.
Thanks,
Rick
Was that point really lost on you?
Best regards,
Rick
> | Fwiw,
> |
> | I do all my track "learning" in testing mode, with damage off, and
shift-r
> | works very well there. I practice many many laps like this, until I feel
I
> | am very consistant and know how far I can push the car.
> |
> | --
> | Don Burnette
> | D Burnette in N4
> |
> | Some people do nothing wrong.
> | The problem is, they do nothing.
> | And THAT is wrong.
> |
> | >
> | > >Hey Rick! I just read your other post, nearly wore me out! My point
> | > >about shift-R is that if you don't want to go through all the garbage
> | > >that you just stated, then BE CAREFUL on the starts.
> | >
> | > You do know that the only way to get better is to practice, right?
Not
> | > just to be more careful, but to practice so you can come to learn how
> | > careful is careful enough. You don't get that from being
> | > intentionally careful, you get that from *practicing*. And in N4,
> | > practicing is frankly a pain in the ***because you can only race
until
> | > the first mistake, then you have to start ALL THE WAY OVER again,
> | including
> | > reloading the track and all that garbage. :-)
> | >
> | > > By using shift-r you can just make a headlong rush to the first turn
> at
> | > >watkins glen, crash out the field, shift-R and do it again. After a
> few
> | > >times of that, gee, it seems as though your ready for online racing!
> | > >Yahoo! (Watch out so you don't get sprayed with the dripping sarcasm
> | > >there! :)) JMHO Mike
> | >
> | > I think you're 180 degrees wrong here. If people could set up and
> easily
> | > access an offline game of their choice, and could restart it easily
and
> | > save it when they're doing good, they'd probably be much LESS likely
to
> | get
> | > online until they've had some fun races offline, thereby gaining
> | > experience whether they meant to or not. Since you can't do anything
> | > offline except start a race and run until you crash, be at on the
first
> | lap
> | > or the last, I think people are much more likely to say, "screw this,
> let
> | > me see if I can find a good game online."
> | >
> | > Hope you have your sarcasm cup ready to catch all those drops. :)
> | >
> | > All the best,
> | > Rick
> |
> |
