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by **Thom j** » Tue, 06 Mar 2001 13:39:34

"lost" on me? I think you better re-read the post that went along with Don
Burnette's post. If not just let it go...Thom_j.

|
| >I have been waiting for this post {since this thread began} for how long
| >now?
| >Thank you Don Burnette... Some of these posts are starting to frighten
| >me! I hope they don't work for NASA or our Defense Department!! Phew....
| >Thom_j.
|
| All the practice in the world is not going to help us avoid the AI drivers
| who often appear oblivious to our existence. When that happens, I sure
| wish you could just restart (or better, load from a midrace saved game)
| instead of having to exit the track, wait for it to reload, and start all
| over from scratch.
|
| Was that point really lost on you?
|
| Best regards,
| Rick

by **Thom j** » Tue, 06 Mar 2001 13:46:55

Tim. As I stated many post ago. I will just hop into a race at the end of
the
grid and try to race my way up {hopefully to 1st, 2nd or 3rd} The idea of
constantly re-starting is wasteful.. Just race & race & race. imho you'll
get
alot more out of running in the pack with or without "damage off" then just
keep redundantly re-starting. N4 is a race sim/game not Real-Life Nascar.
Cheers Thom_j.

| Problem with that is running in traffic does change the air, and setups
| For the most advanced testing, it simply doesnt help
|

| > I have been waiting for this post {since this thread began} for how long
| > now?
| > Thank you Don Burnette... Some of these posts are starting to frighten
me!
| I
| > hope they don't work for NASA or our Defense Department!! Phew....
| > Thom_j.
| >

| > | Fwiw,
| > |
| > | I do all my track "learning" in testing mode, with damage off, and
| shift-r
| > | works very well there. I practice many many laps like this, until I
feel
| I
| > | am very consistant and know how far I can push the car.
| > |
| > | --
| > | Don Burnette
| > | D Burnette in N4
| > |
| > | Some people do nothing wrong.
| > | The problem is, they do nothing.
| > | And THAT is wrong.
| > |

| > | >
| > | > >Hey Rick! I just read your other post, nearly wore me out! My
point
| > | > >about shift-R is that if you don't want to go through all the
garbage
| > | > >that you just stated, then BE CAREFUL on the starts.
| > | >
| > | > You do know that the only way to get better is to practice, right?
| Not
| > | > just to be more careful, but to practice so you can come to learn
how
| > | > careful is careful enough. You don't get that from being
| > | > intentionally careful, you get that from *practicing*. And in N4,
| > | > practicing is frankly a pain in the ***because you can only race
| until
| > | > the first mistake, then you have to start ALL THE WAY OVER again,
| > | including
| > | > reloading the track and all that garbage. :-)
| > | >
| > | > > By using shift-r you can just make a headlong rush to the first
turn
| > at
| > | > >watkins glen, crash out the field, shift-R and do it again. After
a
| > few
| > | > >times of that, gee, it seems as though your ready for online
racing!
| > | > >Yahoo! (Watch out so you don't get sprayed with the dripping
sarcasm
| > | > >there! :)) JMHO Mike
| > | >
| > | > I think you're 180 degrees wrong here. If people could set up and
| > easily
| > | > access an offline game of their choice, and could restart it easily
| and
| > | > save it when they're doing good, they'd probably be much LESS likely
| to
| > | get
| > | > online until they've had some fun races offline, thereby gaining
| > | > experience whether they meant to or not. Since you can't do
anything
| > | > offline except start a race and run until you crash, be at on the
| first
| > | lap
| > | > or the last, I think people are much more likely to say, "screw
this,
| > let
| > | > me see if I can find a good game online."
| > | >
| > | > Hope you have your sarcasm cup ready to catch all those drops. :)
| > | >
| > | > All the best,
| > | > Rick
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|

by **PHYDEAUX** » Wed, 07 Mar 2001 07:11:57

NEXT to you????? how about to tell them there is a car spun on the track so
they don't ram the hell out of you one right after another....or to tell them
there is a slow car ahead....(limp back to the pits with a blown tire once and
see if they don't ram you before you can get down on the apron)....What a bunch
of blind willy's....

DB

(Don't gimme NO***in E-mail)

by **Dog-Le** » Fri, 09 Mar 2001 05:07:18

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Ditto...

-Larry

> Fwiw,

> I do all my track "learning" in testing mode, with damage off, and shift-r
> works very well there. I practice many many laps like this, until I feel I
> am very consistant and know how far I can push the car.

> --
> Don Burnette
> D Burnette in N4

> Some people do nothing wrong.
> The problem is, they do nothing.
> And THAT is wrong.

> > >Hey Rick! I just read your other post, nearly wore me out! My point
> > >about shift-R is that if you don't want to go through all the garbage
> > >that you just stated, then BE CAREFUL on the starts.

> > You do know that the only way to get better is to practice, right? Not
> > just to be more careful, but to practice so you can come to learn how
> > careful is careful enough. You don't get that from being
> > intentionally careful, you get that from *practicing*. And in N4,
> > practicing is frankly a pain in the ***because you can only race until
> > the first mistake, then you have to start ALL THE WAY OVER again,
> including
> > reloading the track and all that garbage. :-)

> > > By using shift-r you can just make a headlong rush to the first turn
at
> > >watkins glen, crash out the field, shift-R and do it again. After a
few
> > >times of that, gee, it seems as though your ready for online racing!
> > >Yahoo! (Watch out so you don't get sprayed with the dripping sarcasm
> > >there! :)) JMHO Mike

> > I think you're 180 degrees wrong here. If people could set up and
easily
> > access an offline game of their choice, and could restart it easily and
> > save it when they're doing good, they'd probably be much LESS likely to
> get
> > online until they've had some fun races offline, thereby gaining
> > experience whether they meant to or not. Since you can't do anything
> > offline except start a race and run until you crash, be at on the first
> lap
> > or the last, I think people are much more likely to say, "screw this,
let
> > me see if I can find a good game online."

> > Hope you have your sarcasm cup ready to catch all those drops. :)

> > All the best,
> > Rick

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by **Don Burnett** » Fri, 09 Mar 2001 11:47:39

I think one thing folks are missing with this sim, mainly newer ones that
perhaps haven't driven GPL, is taking their time and "learning" it. Yes, it
is way different than previous Nascar sims. Think you could just hop into a
750 hp stock car and be fairly fast and consistant in the real world right
out the chute? No way man. Your not going to be able to just drop into a
100% ai race and bully your way to the front of the field, you'll be packing
your car up and***ing your wounds on the way home.
Practice, practice, practice. Then practice some more. Learn the tracks.
Learn how far you can get away with your braking. Tweak your brake bias and
setups for YOUR style of driving. You'll do nothing but continue to
improve, and you'll find you can beat those other guys cleanly.
It ain't gonna happen overnight.

--
Don Burnette
D Burnette in N4

Some people do nothing wrong.
The problem is, they do nothing.
And THAT is wrong.

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> Ditto...

> -Larry

> > Fwiw,

> > I do all my track "learning" in testing mode, with damage off, and
shift-r
> > works very well there. I practice many many laps like this, until I feel
I
> > am very consistant and know how far I can push the car.

> > --
> > Don Burnette
> > D Burnette in N4

> > Some people do nothing wrong.
> > The problem is, they do nothing.
> > And THAT is wrong.

> > > >Hey Rick! I just read your other post, nearly wore me out! My point
> > > >about shift-R is that if you don't want to go through all the garbage
> > > >that you just stated, then BE CAREFUL on the starts.

> > > You do know that the only way to get better is to practice, right?
Not
> > > just to be more careful, but to practice so you can come to learn how
> > > careful is careful enough. You don't get that from being
> > > intentionally careful, you get that from *practicing*. And in N4,
> > > practicing is frankly a pain in the ***because you can only race
until
> > > the first mistake, then you have to start ALL THE WAY OVER again,
> > including
> > > reloading the track and all that garbage. :-)

> > > > By using shift-r you can just make a headlong rush to the first turn
> at
> > > >watkins glen, crash out the field, shift-R and do it again. After a
> few
> > > >times of that, gee, it seems as though your ready for online racing!
> > > >Yahoo! (Watch out so you don't get sprayed with the dripping sarcasm
> > > >there! :)) JMHO Mike

> > > I think you're 180 degrees wrong here. If people could set up and
> easily
> > > access an offline game of their choice, and could restart it easily
and
> > > save it when they're doing good, they'd probably be much LESS likely
to
> > get
> > > online until they've had some fun races offline, thereby gaining
> > > experience whether they meant to or not. Since you can't do anything
> > > offline except start a race and run until you crash, be at on the
first
> > lap
> > > or the last, I think people are much more likely to say, "screw this,
> let
> > > me see if I can find a good game online."

> > > Hope you have your sarcasm cup ready to catch all those drops. :)

> > > All the best,
> > > Rick

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