rec.autos.simulators

I tend to believe Carmack and NVidia over you, sorry.

I think you're assuming too much about your audience. I wouldn't spend that sort of money on a graphics card, but I sure
would like to read a review of it and how it performs with various flight sims. Curiosity is the backbone of the
hardened surfer :)

Surely any site's refusal to review a particular board denotes a lack of impartiality of that site?

Just my 2c ...

James

I would like to direct you to a thread titled "Sorry Mac guys, Job's
dupes ya again" in the pc.video news group.

I resemble that.

<g>

Hiya James!

-Surfer

I dont think refusal to review a given product denotes any kind of
indication of lacking impartiality....the total of the preceeding
paragraph however...well...ummm, how else is one to take it.

I read usenet to read such grand claims and wild accusations of drug use,
conspiracies etc, I would expect a responsible review site to make a
decision, and then let that decision be known in a somewhat more eloquent
and mature form.

I agree that there is no need to review a $700 video card on a mainstream
site.  Whens the last time you saw one of the major site review a card
designed for high end graphic workstations....they dont, not because they
arn't quality cards that many users would find run at incredible speeds,
but because no-in in their right non-lotto winning mind would buy one for
a home computer.  There will certainly be many people who will shell out
that large pile of dough to get the latest and greatest video card, but
it will probably not be more than 1% of the *** gamers (meaning a
fraction of a percent of the total computer gamers).  After all, just how
many people who are fast car freaks go out an buy a Lamborghini...and
just how many Lamborghini reviews do you read in consumer reports?

I have enough disposable income to blow $700 on a new video card, but I
wouldnt.  Heck, my primary computer is still an Athlon 600 even though I
could upgrade to a 1.2+ gHz Athlon for only a few hundred dollars.  There
just isnt the need to upgrade every 6months like there used to be.  My
computer is over a year old, and there still isnt a game out that I cant
run acceptably, and 99% of them I can max out the resolution and detail
options for the most part.  I upgraded my Video card a few months ago to
a Radeon 64-DDR, I was jumping ship from 3Dfx (actually returned a V5500
that I had bought only a week before), and found the Radeon discounted
because it had no software and was open AND it had a $30 rebate bringing
the cost right down to $195 which was what I paid for the V5500.  Even on
my Athlon 600, I run most games at 1600x1200, and nothing under 1024x768,
so just what do I want a $700 wideo card for?

For me, the only was Id even consider a $700 video card at this point was
if it had the following (and remember, I said CONSIDER...it would still
be a tough sell to get me to spend that much):

FSAA at qualities well beyond the excelent Voodoo 5500 4x standard, and
it would have to do it at 1600x1200 smooth as glass while still making
640x480 and 800x600 look great for my older games.

Every conneciton imaginable for video in and out, with a video capture
ability 30fps full screen, and included editing software that works as
well as the high end mac programs.

Speed beyond my woldest dreams, with all the T&L, Bump map ect, I mean I
want a card that can render volumetric lighing effects in real time.

Dual monitor support with specific drivers for 3D games to use so that I
can have a radar screen or comtrol pannels on the 2nd display....then I
want them to throw money at the major developers to incoperate it into
most major games.

I'd ask for 3d glasses or something, but I have yet to see the technology
needed to make it happen without halving resolution.  Even in page flip
mode the Gamejoy 3D glassed sucked so bad it made me wonder why they
bothered.

Did I mention I wanted it to bench out at 3 times my radeons scores in
real games.

Ahh well, I can dream cant I

[snip]

Point taken but there are indeed users out there who spend a considerable amount of money on hardware to enhance their
experience of sims - look at the***pit builders for example. Therefore I think that it would be interesting to read
such a review, even if ones intentions aren't necessarily to purchase such products.

If Nvidia or whoever find that their products are receiving wonderful reviews but aren't selling, the onus is on them to
adjust their marketing strategy and hence price.

Cheers

James

D. "Dada" Miller

that sort of money on a graphics card, but I sure
sims. Curiosity is the backbone of the
impartiality of that site?

--
Wim Libaers

Remove DONTSPAM from my reply address to send me mail. (Email address
changed recently)

ARGH people, READ THE PREVIEWS from the experts before you go spouting
off... Even the Nvidia news sites that tend to be Windows slanted say
that almost all the GPU features will be supported in NVidia's
extensions to OpenGL...

NVidia says the EXACT SAME THING...ARGHHHHHHHH

No games for OpenGL?  BS, just because you guys on the windows side see
things written for DirectX8 doesn't mean that their ports either 1)don't
exist or 2) don't use OpenGL for their linux and mac ports...