If you've seen the Doom3 footage video, that's just what Carmack said
too.
rms
If you've seen the Doom3 footage video, that's just what Carmack said
too.
rms
I think that just happened LOL.
Personally, I have always kept my 3D budget at no more than $150. And at
$150 it better be fast and beautiful or Im taking it back.
>YOU CAN BUY A WHOLE GRAM OF CRACK FOR THAT!!
Tim
Fools and their money will soon be parted LOL.
Well the xbox might actually be a good deal if it's kept at $300 or less
like they have been guestimating.
High End or CAD / Professional End?
>I don't know what the GEForce3 chip costs, but I bet the 350MHz RAMDAC
>and 460MHz memory don't come cheap!
"The NVIDIA will release its GeForce3 in a few days. Several leak info
have indicated that the video core and memory on GeForce3 will run at
200MHz and 230MHz respectively. These are no any faster than those of
GeForce2 Ultra (core/memory = 250MHz/230MHz). We all know that memory
bandwidth is the main factor that limits the performance of video
cards today. Then, with the same memory bandwidth and lower video core
speed how can that GeForce3 take on a better performance than its
predecessor? "
Also, the GF3 has its own version of HSR, and something similar to ATI's
HyperZ (both in hardware). All of which adds up to much greater effective
memory bandwidth.
So that's partly where the greater performance comes in. The FSAA is done
in hardware as well.
RedEye
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> >The referenced article points out that the video cards are produced by
> >Hercules, ASUS, and ELSA. nVidia makes and sells the chip, not the
> >video card, so blame the card manufacturers for the price of the card.
> >I don't know what the GEForce3 chip costs, but I bet the 350MHz RAMDAC
> >and 460MHz memory don't come cheap!
> A bit over indulgeng on those specs aren't you? Found this on a forum
> dated Feb.1.
> "The NVIDIA will release its GeForce3 in a few days. Several leak info
> have indicated that the video core and memory on GeForce3 will run at
> 200MHz and 230MHz respectively. These are no any faster than those of
> GeForce2 Ultra (core/memory = 250MHz/230MHz). We all know that memory
> bandwidth is the main factor that limits the performance of video
> cards today. Then, with the same memory bandwidth and lower video core
> speed how can that GeForce3 take on a better performance than its
> predecessor? "
ATI won't be dying anytime soon. They're still the #1 OEM manufacturer, and
they have huge contracts Nvidia would sell their souls for.
If I remember correctly, ATI gets most of their income from bulk OEM sales
(onboard mobo goodies)
They ain't gonna write a game for, what, 4 people ?
-Larry
-Larry
> > Note to developers: you're crazy if you do any
> > designing *specifically* for this card (without full
> > backwards compatability).
> Not really, this is after all the same architecture as
> found in the X-Box (a product designed to rid PC
> game developers of backwards compatibility
> limitations).
> As for the quoted price, just because you read it
> doesn't mean it is true. For instance if you were
> to take the trouble of visiting the Nvidia website
> and clicking on the GF3 link a few clicks later you
> will end up at the Apple store where one can
> buy an 'Apple Power Mac G4 NVIDIA GeForce3
> Video Card Kit ' for $599.00.
> Bear in mind that is bone stock retail for the more
> expensive Apple variant. For reference the ATI
> Radeon 32Mb Mac bought from the Apple store is
> 166% more than a PC variant from a online
> discount store.
> So it won't be cheap, but it certainly will not be
> $700 (probably priced slighlty more than a GF2
> Ultra), of more pressing concern will be availability
> and just what on Earth will 'HRAA' mean?
> - George
- George
> YOU CAN BUY A WHOLE GRAM OF CRACK FOR THAT!!
>This is a *** newsgroup, not a graphics art or CAD/CAM newsgroup.
I will do with the Nv999999 or whatever as I always do...
Wait for cheapety!
<skips off>
Little Red Pasha Hood
I've read some articles that suggest the price for the GF3 may end up in the
$350-$450 range. Still high, but not completely insane if it performs as
advertised. I might actually consider getting one in that range and not
feel terribly bad about it since I've maintained the willpower to skip the
V5/GF2 vidcard iterations completely. :-)
Jerry Morelock
(sorry, not feeling like explaining at the moment. read the other posts).
-Tempest
> >I guess after they crushed 3dfx, they have a monopoly and
> >can charge exorbitant prices. Read on ..
> >http://www.overclockers.com/tips344/
> >SEVEN HUNDRED DOLLARS FOR A VIDEO CARD!!!!????
> >YOU CAN BUY A WHOLE DAMN COMPUTER FOR THAT!!
> >They don't need publicity at NVidia; they need drug rehabilitation.
> >We will not review any such absurdly priced product until the
> >absurdity vanishes. To do so would be a disservice to our audience and
> >only serve to encourage people to waste money.
> i don't see what their problem is. there are plenty of highend videocards
out
> on the market NOW that cost even more then that. 3d labs being one of the
> more popular brands. maybe the new card isn't aimed at kids that wanna
play
> games on their daddy's computer? and even if it is, the price will fall
> quickly. some might not be able to afford it on the release date, but
most
> won't mind the wait. they don't need to impress people with flash
computers.
> Obake
>Also, the GF3 has its own version of HSR, and something similar to ATI's
>HyperZ (both in hardware). All of which adds up to much greater effective
>memory bandwidth.
Always has been.