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Papyrus: it's no longer "early 98". Where's the Nascar2 3dfx patch?

Jo

Papyrus: it's no longer "early 98". Where's the Nascar2 3dfx patch?

by Jo » Tue, 03 Feb 1998 04:00:00

Subject says it all. It's February now, which is past "early 98" by
any reasonable definition. Where's the promised patch?

Joe

William Dahm

Papyrus: it's no longer "early 98". Where's the Nascar2 3dfx patch?

by William Dahm » Tue, 03 Feb 1998 04:00:00


> Subject says it all. It's February now, which is past "early 98" by
> any reasonable definition. Where's the promised patch?

> Joe

no 1) Many people would consider "early" anytime 1st Quarter or even
first 1/3

no 2) Delay is the way of the software entertainment world.  Its always
been this way.  Live with it.

no 3) It is possible that it was canceled.  Don't be so idealistic.  If
papy decides at any point that a N2 3DFX patch is just no in the budget
then they will cancel it.  Papy is a business, not a charity.

Sean Ormon

Papyrus: it's no longer "early 98". Where's the Nascar2 3dfx patch?

by Sean Ormon » Tue, 03 Feb 1998 04:00:00


> This group will just say ***like the above and leave it
> at that. Bunch of pussies, if there ever was.

LOL!  "Bunch of pussies", huh?  I guess real "manly" men post whiny,
threatening little letters crying because a freebie patch to their favorite
racin' game hasn't been released, yet...  You should check out the vaunted
"3dfx Brotherhood", a support group for losers who find it difficult going
about their everyday life knowing 3dfx patches aren't available for all
their games <sniff>.

William's points are valid, whether you're a Papyrus fanboy or not.  And
before you start getting feelings of self-importance (and I know how easy
that can happen to the VP of ***s), Papyrus could come on this group
tomorrow, tell us the patch is history and we could collectively "*** Off",
and it wouldn't send a blip through their sales.  Besides, I have it on good
information that the 3dfx patch is done, they're just holding it back to
***people off!

Sean

Dave Henri

Papyrus: it's no longer "early 98". Where's the Nascar2 3dfx patch?

by Dave Henri » Tue, 03 Feb 1998 04:00:00

  Now Nos yer gonna get ras upset with you too..:)
    Hey money could really enter into this.  I mean you have a group of
users who A) No nothing about N2 but get it because the 3dfx patch is out.
They will flood the support lines with all sorts of questions and "cost"
either Sierra or Papy money in suport salaries etc.  the other user is a B)
expert N2 user who knows next to nothing about 3dfx since they've been using
Rendition for 2 years.  and they too will flood the support lines with all
manner of questions relating to this oddity or that***up or why the Rend
version gets 1.2 more fps or why the new 3dfx shows the pit crew standing
slightly crooked or why there are no trees for nap racing....(sorry just had
to put that in...)
dave henrie




> >no 3) It is possible that it was canceled.  Don't be so idealistic.  If
> >papy decides at any point that a N2 3DFX patch is just no in the budget
> >then they will cancel it.  Papy is a business, not a charity.

> See Joe? Exactly as I told you. 3DFX did the patch, not Papy. It cost
> them next to nothing. If they canceled it there would be a big uproar,
> believe me. This group will just say ***like the above and leave it
> at that. Bunch of pussies, if there ever was.
> --
> Nos


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Dave Henri

Papyrus: it's no longer "early 98". Where's the Nascar2 3dfx patch?

by Dave Henri » Tue, 03 Feb 1998 04:00:00

  does Cart use D3d??  I'm guessing somebody got CPR mixed up with ICR2/CART.
dave henrie



> % no 3) It is possible that it was canceled.  Don't be so idealistic.  If
> % papy decides at any point that a N2 3DFX patch is just no in the budget
> % then they will cancel it.  Papy is a business, not a charity.

> Well, if rumors are anywhere to being half true, the patch is done (not
> by Papyrus).  So where is the financial gain in not releasing it?  On an
> interesting side-note.  I read 3DFX they will be using CART Racing to
> demo the new Voodoo 2 chip set, but no mention of NASCAR2.

> This should really start some rumors about a 3DFX port of ICRII/CART
> Racing! ;-)  However, they must be using the Windows version and D3D,
> unless there really is a 3DFX port.... hmmmmmmmm

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Nosfera

Papyrus: it's no longer "early 98". Where's the Nascar2 3dfx patch?

by Nosfera » Wed, 04 Feb 1998 04:00:00


>Subject says it all. It's February now, which is past "early 98" by
>any reasonable definition. Where's the promised patch?

>Joe

Now you've gone and done it Joe. :-)
Expect a barrage of flames any moment now.
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John Walla

Papyrus: it's no longer "early 98". Where's the Nascar2 3dfx patch?

by John Walla » Wed, 04 Feb 1998 04:00:00


>Subject says it all. It's February now, which is past "early 98" by
>any reasonable definition. Where's the promised patch?

In any company I have ever worked "early 98" is taken to mean first
quarter, that is Jan to March.

Cheers!
John

Nosfera

Papyrus: it's no longer "early 98". Where's the Nascar2 3dfx patch?

by Nosfera » Wed, 04 Feb 1998 04:00:00



See Joe? Exactly as I told you. 3DFX did the patch, not Papy. It cost
them next to nothing. If they canceled it there would be a big uproar,
believe me. This group will just say ***like the above and leave it
at that. Bunch of pussies, if there ever was.
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Nos


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Michael E. Carve

Papyrus: it's no longer "early 98". Where's the Nascar2 3dfx patch?

by Michael E. Carve » Wed, 04 Feb 1998 04:00:00


% no 3) It is possible that it was canceled.  Don't be so idealistic.  If
% papy decides at any point that a N2 3DFX patch is just no in the budget
% then they will cancel it.  Papy is a business, not a charity.

Well, if rumors are anywhere to being half true, the patch is done (not
by Papyrus).  So where is the financial gain in not releasing it?  On an
interesting side-note.  I read 3DFX they will be using CART Racing to
demo the new Voodoo 2 chip set, but no mention of NASCAR2.  

This should really start some rumors about a 3DFX port of ICRII/CART
Racing! ;-)  However, they must be using the Windows version and D3D,
unless there really is a 3DFX port.... hmmmmmmmm

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mack

Papyrus: it's no longer "early 98". Where's the Nascar2 3dfx patch?

by mack » Wed, 04 Feb 1998 04:00:00

N0 4) William kisses papy's ass




> > Subject says it all. It's February now, which is past "early 98" by
> > any reasonable definition. Where's the promised patch?

> > Joe

> no 1) Many people would consider "early" anytime 1st Quarter or even
> first 1/3

> no 2) Delay is the way of the software entertainment world.  Its always
> been this way.  Live with it.

> no 3) It is possible that it was canceled.  Don't be so idealistic.  If
> papy decides at any point that a N2 3DFX patch is just no in the budget
> then they will cancel it.  Papy is a business, not a charity.

Jo

Papyrus: it's no longer "early 98". Where's the Nascar2 3dfx patch?

by Jo » Wed, 04 Feb 1998 04:00:00


>no 1) Many people would consider "early" anytime 1st Quarter or even
>first 1/3

How do you figure? Business people already have a word for 1st
quarter: "1st quarter". If that's what they meant, they should have
said so.

Updating customers on the status of missed [or vague] ship dates is
only good busniess sense.

If they break this promise, they will lose a LOT of loyalty in their
customer base.

Joe

Ronald Stoeh

Papyrus: it's no longer "early 98". Where's the Nascar2 3dfx patch?

by Ronald Stoeh » Wed, 04 Feb 1998 04:00:00


>   Now Nos yer gonna get ras upset with you too..:)
>     Hey money could really enter into this.  I mean you have a group of
> users who A) No nothing about N2 but get it because the 3dfx patch is out.
> They will flood the support lines with all sorts of questions and "cost"
> either Sierra or Papy money in suport salaries etc.  the other user is a B)

I see: they increase sales of N2 but would loose money because they have
to
hire dozens of support people??? Yeah, right!

l8er
ronny

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Jo

Papyrus: it's no longer "early 98". Where's the Nascar2 3dfx patch?

by Jo » Wed, 04 Feb 1998 04:00:00


>In any company I have ever worked "early 98" is taken to mean first
>quarter, that is Jan to March.

In any company where I have ever worked, "1st quarter" is taken to
mean "1st quarter". In other words, it is a very common business
expression. If Papyrus meant 1st quarter why not just say so?

Joe

Nosfera

Papyrus: it's no longer "early 98". Where's the Nascar2 3dfx patch?

by Nosfera » Wed, 04 Feb 1998 04:00:00

On Mon, 02 Feb 1998 23:07:21 -0500, Sean Ormond


>LOL!  "Bunch of pussies", huh?  I guess real "manly" men post whiny,
>threatening little letters crying because a freebie patch to their favorite
>racin' game hasn't been released, yet...  You should check out the vaunted
>"3dfx Brotherhood", a support group for losers who find it difficult going
>about their everyday life knowing 3dfx patches aren't available for all
>their games <sniff>.

Oh, I forgot to add this: Member of the 3DFX Brotherhood. :-)

Well, they will sell a  bunch more if they do release a patch which
will make more than a blip in their sales. If they don't then you are
right, their future sales of N2 will be nothing more than a blip.
--
Nos


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Adam Levesq

Papyrus: it's no longer "early 98". Where's the Nascar2 3dfx patch?

by Adam Levesq » Wed, 04 Feb 1998 04:00:00


>Subject says it all. It's February now, which is past "early 98" by
>any reasonable definition. Where's the promised patch?

>Joe

Okay all, I am sorry about the lack of information from Papyrus in
this newsgroup as of late.  What I have found in the past is that it
becomes a no win situation.  If we say it's going to be done by x date
and then it misses that date, we are screamed at for missing the date.
If we don't say anything thing, we are screamed at for not saying
anything.  That's the reason we have been reluctant to say anything
about the N2 3DFX patch on this group.

Having said that, here is the scoop.  We are still working on the
patch.  There is no *** with Rendition to not complete this
patch.  And, there is not effort on Papyrus' part to take all the
credit for the patch.  Andy at 3DFX has done a tremendous job.
Without his effort, this patch would not even be on the table.  

We are in the last stages of getting this patch done.  Andy is still
working on some issues which we hope to have complete soon.  No, I
won't give you a date because I don't have one.  When we have done all
we can with the patch, we will release it.  Sorry for the silence and
the delay but trust me when I say it is coming.  Thanks.

Adam Levesque
General Manager
Papyrus


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