rec.autos.simulators

Please forward this to Fox/NASCAR executives:

quote from C***te Business Journal:
"The idea for a NASCAR network began two years ago, when the stock-car sanctioning body completed a $2.8 billion
broadcast contract with Fox and NBC/Turner. That deal began this year. With viewership at an all-time high, Fox and
NASCAR executives have again turned their attention to starting a cable channel.  The plan is to convert Speedvision, an
existing cable network reaching 41 million households, to the NASCAR Channel."

Let me give you all a hint.  You mess with Speedvision, who shows greatly varied racing events besides NASCAR Racing,
and I will boycott both FOX and "NASCAR-Vision", and ask others to do the same.  We DON'T want a good racing channel
turned into a single race channel, and I'll be damned if I'm going to watch it.  I'll have the cable package (which I
got just BECAUSE of Speedvision) removed.

You want a NASCAR channel, get your own damn channel.  Don't mess up a good format that shows alot more varied racing
than just NASCAR.  And don't tell me that you'll host other racing events on there...I can bet my bottom dollar that
ANYTHING that would compete against NASCAR-owned series will be dropped in favor of NASCAR sanctioned events.

Jan Kohl

I love it when a guy/company wants to take something they own and change it
to their liking people fly off the handle like they don't have the right to
do so.  I just can't understand that thinking.  You probably don't even
watch NASCAR so you aren't one of the 41M households to which they are
catering.

Thanks.

sanctioning body completed a $2.8 billion
With viewership at an all-time high, Fox and
channel.  The plan is to convert Speedvision, an
varied racing events besides NASCAR Racing,
same.  We DON'T want a good racing channel
watch it.  I'll have the cable package (which I
good format that shows alot more varied racing
on there...I can bet my bottom dollar that
favor of NASCAR sanctioned events.

I've been a NASCAR fan since 1970.  I have watched almost every NASCAR race
for the past 8 years.  I like watching NASCAR Racing.  So, point one on your end...gone.

Speedvision is NOT NASCAR-vision. Now I'll make an assumption about you...do YOU
watch any other form of racing?  If not, all I'll say is...figures.

If you do, you would realize that whether or not they own the station has nothing to do with
what viewers want to see.  I bought and paid good money for the extra package that has
Speedvision, I'll be darned if I sit quietly by and let them change it into NASCAR-vision.

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I would much rather see other races that are sanctioned by Nascar (my local
dirt track happens to be one of many) then those types of programs. This may
not appeal to you, but to the majority I think it would be welcomed. And the
majority is all the really counts when dollars are involved.

Doug

I agree with you in basic principle, you have a right to cancel your
subscription to Speedvision.  It's the threat of boycott against FOX, NASCAR
and god only knows who else that I'm against.

FWIW:  I really only have time to watch NASCAR these days, so I'm not
certain how I feel about this.  However, I will add that if the market
desires such a channel it's certain to be back.

Thanks.

41 million? You might be way off on your numbers.
http://www.sportsline.com/u/wire/stories/0,1169,3621187_6,00.html
Besides, I think we already have a NASCAR channel. It's the same one that
shows Hee-Haw.

David G Fisher

American LeMans Series.  As a road racing series, it competes directly against NASCAR's
Grand American.  Granted, ALMS is more factory prototypes than GA, but I rather doubt they
would show ALMS events on a NASCAR-sanctioned channel.

Trans Am.  Several Trans Am events run exactly at the same time as NASCAR-events.
Either they will (A tape-delay it and show it later, or B) not show it at all.  And what if
T/A starts to gain ground on viewer audience?

24 hours of LeMans.  Several NASCAR shows coincide directly with this program.
A BGN race, as well as qualifying and practice for the WC event.  Do you think they
will show the 24 hours of Le Mans vs these events?  What did I watch?  The BGN
race during that part of the day...but I'm sure many were tuned into the 24 hours..and
I certainly DIDN'T watch qual or practice in favor of LeMans...

F1.  Several Formula 1 events coincide with NASCAR events, mostly the ones over
on this hemisphere, of course.  F1 or NASCAR on NASCAR-vision?

I'm rather astounded that the two responses thus far have been negative...I thought most
people on RAS were rather open about all forms of racing, but maybe I was wrong.
Or, maybe I didn't make myself clear enough...I'm not opposed to a NASCAR channel,
I'm opposed to turning **Speedvision** into a NASCAR channel.

Cheers!

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At the end it talks about a "soft" launch this fall, whatever the hell that
means, then in February they go full tilt!

If the do away with F1, Rally, Road-Racing like ALMS and Grand Am, plus
Trans AM, the Historic shows like Legends of Motorsports, SV News Raceweek,
and all the other diverse coverage and go 100% NAPCAR that would truly be an
injustice to Speedvisions core audience, which I would assume, based on how
little NAPCAR coverage they do now, is not overly NASCAR "heavy"!

Perhaps a letter writing campaign to Speedvision would be in order?

You can send your feedback to them at:

However.... If, and I hope to GOD your right Doug, that they will simply do
away with the boats, planes and infomercials and replace them with NAPCAR
coverage, leaving the rest of the Auto-Racing programming alone, then I'd
say terrific!

Frankly, I don't believe this will be the case... We can only hope that ESPN
will pick up F1 coverage, along with World Rally, Road-Racing, and the
rest... But... I'm not holding my breath!

Jay J

I'm hoping they still keep the mix with Speedvision.  If it turns into
24hrs of Nascar without 24hrs of LeMans and such, I'll certainly have
more time to do other things on the weekend besides watching racing :(

Jason.

If there's a market for the other forms of racing, they will survive.

It's all about money.

Thanks.

negative...I thought most

If there's a market for the other forms of racing, they will survive.

It's all about money.

Thanks.

negative...I thought most

41 million? You might be way off on your numbers.
http://www.sportsline.com/u/wire/stories/0,1169,3621187_6,00.html
Besides, I think we already have a NASCAR channel. It's the same one that
shows Hee-Haw.

David G Fisher

sanctioning body completed a $2.8 billion
With viewership at an all-time high, Fox and
channel.  The plan is to convert Speedvision, an
varied racing events besides NASCAR Racing,
same.  We DON'T want a good racing channel
watch it.  I'll have the cable package (which I
good format that shows alot more varied racing
on there...I can bet my bottom dollar that
favor of NASCAR sanctioned events.

This is not good at all. I love NASCAR. I either attend or watch almost
every Cup and Busch race every year. I also love just about every type of
racing out there. I got a digital cable converter just because my crappy
cable co. only carries Speedvision on their digital service. I would be
super pissed if they dropped WRC, SBK, F1, or any of the other racing series
that Speedvision covers and I would definitely let them know how unhappy I
would be.

Kyle

Precisely...and this is the reason I think only threats of not watching "NASCAR-vision"
are the only things that corperate Fox/NASCAR will listen to!   I've got 4 Fox channels,
(not counting Speedvision), Fox Sports World, Fox Sports, FX, and Fox.  If Fox/NASCAR
got 500 letters of "please don't change the format of Speedvision, I like it" do you think that
corperate heads (who are eagerly watching their returns on their investment in NASCAR)
really care?  I don't, otherwise they would have never suggested changing Speedvision in
the first place.

If they got 500 letters of "I'll remove my cable channels before I let you change Speedvision",
that's certainly more likely to turn a few heads...the good thing about you, Eddie, is that you
don't think like corperate America...I, unfortunately, have had too many run-ins not to see
the danger signs.  And sure, they may say they'll continue to show other forms of racing...but
I can guarantee one thing...they're NOT calling it a "NASCAR" channel for nothing...

Sure, maybe someone else will take up the slack and try to get the other races...but then again,
what will we miss until they do so?  How long will we have to wait?  A month?  A year?  2 years?
IMHO, taking a bite at the root of the problem  may make a difference.  And maybe it won't.
But I'm certainly willing to try, as I mentioned before, I LIKE watching all the other racing I
get (and paid for) on Speedvision, and I'm certainly not willing to give up the ghost while it's
still in the 'thinking' stages...

Cheers!

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?? Jan Kohl ??
SECURITY CONSULTANT
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