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Screwing, you talk about the government screwing people and that we won't
take it?  We've been taking it for as long as I can remember.  They take so
much money from us that the average individual must work until the end of
April just to pay for the taxes they have levied against us.  That's crazy.

Greed is the American way...

Thanks.

As for learning with age, I'm over halfway through my life expectancy now
and believe I know how things work.  Everything revolves around the mighty
$, if you don't think so, I simply suggest you look around.  Generally,
people only do things for money, take charities for example, did you know
that organizations like the FOP, United Way, etc, spend less than 40% of
their donations to actually help people or do what they say they will?  Most
are far less.

FTR, I have been involved with Fortune 500 companies and have seen all sides
of the corporate coin.  The large corporations are out of control, I prefer
operating a small family run business where you can actually provide
customer support and be proud of the product that you provide

Thanks.

Frickin' Capitalists.  They don't have a clue.  It's there *because*
it's different.  And Jan, as part of The Market, is speaking up in
opposition to this stupid move.  I agree wholeheartedly with Jan.

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Fester

You can have your opinion and express it and I can have mine and express it.
If you expect me not express views that don't agree with you, then I suggest
that you filter my posts.

Thanks.

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Fester

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Fester

What's wrong with 'Corporate America' making money?  I guess you feel people
should get the same amount of money whether they actually earn it or not?  I
guess you also feel that Corporation should give their products away rather
than trying to make a profit for their shareholders?

Thanks.

If I didn't like what FOX/NASCAR did with SV, I'd complain and then cancel
my SV subscription.  I wouldn't boycott all of FOX or all of NASCAR, simply
SV.

FWIW, in today's economy, you can't hit a corporation in their wallet...
Especially not in this situation.

Thanks.

Don't bother to fight it.  It's gonna happen...no matter what.  Might as
well sit back & enjoy it.

My own view is that NASCAR has peaked (probably with the death of our
beloved Dale).  It's already way overexposed.  And confused.  If "Friends"
jumped from NBC to Fox in mid-season, they'd lose a ton of viewers.  That's
what the Cup races are doing, and while it may line the capitalist tools'
pockets, it's sowing the seeds for a future meltdown.

Just so's you know, Roger Werner, the founder of SV (and the OLN, and the
godfather of ESPN), swears SV will turn into the NASCAR Channel "over my
dead body."  So remember the election promise after the election, huh, guys?

Maybe this will force some of us off the couch and off to the races.  CART
could use some better attendance figures....

--Steve Smith

sanctioning body completed a $2.8 billion
With viewership at an all-time high, Fox and
channel.  The plan is to convert Speedvision, an
varied racing events besides NASCAR Racing,
same.  We DON'T want a good racing channel
watch it.  I'll have the cable package (which I
good format that shows alot more varied racing
on there...I can bet my bottom dollar that
favor of NASCAR sanctioned events.

Difficult but not impossible.  Depends on how angry/determined you are
at striking back.  A little research will divulge all the interests the
company(ies) has in other enterprises.  Boycotts are pretty effective,
BTW.  Look at the '50's & '60's south in the US.  Helped to change a
lot.  :-)

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Fester

Absolutely not.  THAT'S part of why I'm an anti-Capitalist. ;-)  As a
company president, for instance, to make money for your shareholders &
keep them happy you basically have to steal.  The everyday
worker-in-the-trenches is the one keeping the company afloat.  Let's say
that as a worker, your labor gives a value-add to the company's end
product of $50.  But they only paid you $30.  Sure they made a profit.
Mr Company President gets a bonus check, the shareholder get dividends,
etc.  But they took (stole) $20 from you!  If you like that, so be it.
It happens to me every day & it makes me angry as hell.

I'm a mechanic by trade.  The company I work for gets paid $70 per new
car prep.  The company demands we get at least 6 done an hour.  Let's
see... at my rate of pay, that's slightly less than $3 per prep.  THEY
deserve the remaining $67?  Legalized theft is what I call it.  So quit
your job & go elsewhere, someone will invariably suggest.  Sorry, in a
capitalist society, that kind of scene is played out in every business
out there.  No options.

There's also the matter of Drug Companies & AIDS *** for Africa I read
recently.  Generic, more affordably priced AIDS *** were made
available to the sick in Africa (and still making a profit even at the
greatly reduced price!) but the US Drug Companies stepped in to stop
them.  Seems if they can't make tons of money on you, you're life's not
worth spit.  You may be proud of such a system, but it causes people
like myself to hold people with such viewpoints in derision.

:-)

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Fester

Complete and utter rubbish.  The employee in the trenches didn't take a risk
operating or starting the company, in most cases the employee in the
trenches just wants to work specific hours and go home when it's done.  They
don't want to have the responsibility of coming back or staying late when
things go wrong or extra work is needed.  The employee in the trenches can
simply go find another job if the company goes out of business.  Decisions
of the shareholders and the president either make or break a company, a
front line employee has little effect on the overall picture.

Sounds to me like you just don't have what it takes.  I was with a Fortune
500 company and didn't like the decision they were making, what did I do?  I
left and started my own company.  I didn't sit there and whine about
'legalized theft'.  Do something about your situation or deal with it.

Tell me how the US Drug Companies were able to stop worldwide distribution
of a certain drug, unless of course they produced it.

So in order to defend from being stolen from I should therefore join the
ranks of the thieves?  No thanks.

Bingo.  Patents.  Instead of caring for your fellow human being.
Sickening.

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Fester

The employees in the trenches are easily replaceable...  Good upper
management is hard to come by, just look at the dot-com world to see this.

Well then quit complaining about your lot in life.

Patents?  You mean intellectual property?  You are against intellectual
property rights?  A company spends millions or billions to develop something
and they are supposed to allow people to just give it away?  You certainly
live in dreamland...  What happens to all the shareholders of the company
that invested those millions or billions of dollars?  Out of luck?  No ROTI?
Get real...

I believe I'm through with you on this subject, you obviously don't agree
with my concepts or capitalism and I certainly don't agree with your
'socialism' which doesn't work btw, see Russia.

Thanks.

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