rec.autos.simulators

the fast vids didnt really work to well.....

I dunno, my goals with any racing simulation are to have fun and to
experience what a real driver does to the extent that is possible in
front of a computer.  I've never found hotlapping to be helpful with
either of those two goals.  Racing 1 clean lap for every 10 in order
to find a limit just isn't appealing, and running setups that sit on
the bump stops for an entire lap while using the brake and gas
simultaneously in every corner doesn't help with the realism aspect.

Jason

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GPLRank 24.50
N2002Rank -12.995

I dont know why i feel i have to defend those around me but, discrediting
the list of names ive spent my entire GPL time with as a hotlapper and racer
cause they have a good rank MAKES ME F***ING EVILLY MAD!!!!! GRRR

Sure you can.  Stay partially on the gas when you brake - you can
carry more speed into and through the turn, the car stays incredibly
stable allowing you to trailbrake literally up to the throttle
application point.  elieve Steve Smith touched on this in another
thread recently, comparing the driving style of the aliens to Ridge
Racer, which is pretty spot on.

If you take someone like Huttu and stick him in front of N2002 you'll
quickly notice that while he's still a gifted driver (being the best
of the aliens he should be) he's not nearly as *** as he is in a
sim where you can apply CART Flag-to-Flag style braking technique
(gotta love that game for the DC, the key to cornering is to hold the
throttle open and brake, pretty similar to doing fast laps in GPL).
I'd bet that a non-alien like Achim could take him on the road
courses.

Jason

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GPLRank 24.50
N2002Rank -12.995

Jason

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GPLRank 24.50
N2002Rank -12.995

You only get the feelings of doubt with slower drivers mate and these
drivers feel there doubts in others, as with the *** flame war over
hotlappers vs racers, you never get these within the clan and each :)

the clutch was used with the  left foot always, and the heel and toe is the
brake and throttle....hense blipping the power with the heel or toe when
using the heel or toe to brake....

you never need to use the clutch and another pedal with same foot.....

you can heel and toe in ALL racing cars....its fundamental...

believe Steve Smith touched on this in another

You forget though that these guys have adapted and learned to drive GPL to
its MAX they do the same in all sims, and when that requires realism they
will be same....

Another example of a slowbie hoping on a factor that will slow these chaps
down, just like the heel and toe thing and shifter, better actually which
pedals you heel and toe with Jason :)

non-alien like Achim could take him on the road

Im sure this is pure dribble :)

Left foot braking if very much a late 80's and 90's thing as now they have
dropped clutchs you dont need to every use your left foot on one....

In the 70's 60's 50's youd never left foot brake, or rarely and only if the
pedal configuration was beneficial to it....

only real benefits comes from left foot braking when youve no clutch at
all....

I wonder when GP cars with hand brake and throttles, as your hands are about
6x faster to react than your feet, feet are honestly pretty shit in the
reaction stakes...

Gerry

Yeah, like I know it to be so that you are only fast because you grind
out lap after lap for hour after hour, days, months, years... totally
unrealistic practice regime, imo. The huge speed difference between you
elite guys in gpl and the ordinary ones, like me, just wouldn't exit in
real life, imo. Being ultra fast in GPL is more about having a high
boredom threshold than anything else, imo.

There's a huge difference between a talented driver in real life and
some bloke who plays a game in his bedroom for hours and hours, imo.

Not that I care how you waste your life, or that you feel you need to
crow about being fast at gpl to give your life meaning.

The real tragedy is the loopholes in GPL that you lot exploit. I
wouldn't call it cheating, just cheating yourself.

JMHO

Gerry

I have no doubt you are a great racer and hotlapper. Buried deep below in this
thread before it became a hotlapper vs racer slanging match I suggested this was
due to ability rather then competitive spirit, determination and sheer effort
which seemed to be the inference.

The debate as to whether a great simmer relates to a great RL driver will go on
no doubt! Yet as far as balls or bottle are concerned I doubt they are a factor
in a gplrank rating.

Tony