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by **Bill Bollinge** » Thu, 22 Aug 2002 11:40:10

I will take an average driver with a great setup vs. a great driver with an
average setup at any oval race.

IF, they are driving the same setup, then you are correct. However, other
than teammates, or a fixed-setup race, when would/should this happen?

> agreed about the setup...but driver skill still makes the rest of the
> difference....

> > Oval racing is about 90% setup, not driver skill. Road racing is driver
> > skill. I don't care how good you are at "taking care of equipment", if
> your
> > setup sucks in a TOP LEVEL race, you will get your lunch handed to you.

> > N2002 requires more knowledge of setup building than GPL by a large
> margin.

> > > On Wed, 21 Aug 2002 00:50:29 +0100, "David Powell"

> > > >is that best you can come up with....

> > > Yes.

> > > Seriously, the difference between a fast driver and a slow driver in
> > > N2002 is less than half a second per lap. The difference between new
> > > tires and worn tires is about 2 seconds per lap. A slow driver who
> > > takes care of their equipment can very easily beat a fast driver who
> > > is pushing their car to the limit for an entire race. I've seen this
> > > happen constantly, both to my benefit and to my loss. Oval racing
> > > with realistic tire wear is 80% strategy, 20% driver skill.

> > > >nice to you in VROC today, shame you
> > > >dont say anything

> > > Sorry, working nights here so I've been idle all day.

> > > Jason

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> > > N2002Rank -12.995

by **ymenar** » Thu, 22 Aug 2002 12:16:12

> stupid fool....your talking crap...

Sorry but you have stated in the past that you don't have NR2002, and that
you don't know much about NASCAR racing (evidently from your lack of
understand what it takes to be succesful).

You would get your arse whooped so much, even in a fixed dega qualification
run.

LMAO yes, and it's 100x times easier then to handle a 30+ car multiplayer
100% league race. You, don't know because you don't do both.

> > > i know good drivers win thats enough! :)

> > Sorry, good drivers don't win in NASCAR. Good racers do. You can't
just
> > hotlap your way without caring about tyre wear, tyre temps, position of
> > others, strategy of others, fuel, additional damage like GPL. Not that
> > there's anything wrong with GPL <G>

> > ;) (it's very true, the first lesson you'll learn if you race in online
> > leagues there).

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by **ymenar** » Thu, 22 Aug 2002 12:16:56

> this has to go on the site im afraid....it will go in comedy section, as
my
> readers will love this.....! its truely classic....

Another of your multiple post... it's hilarious how you can't grasp your
entire thoughts into one single post. Like your brain has to catch up each
time with your hands.

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by **ymenar** » Thu, 22 Aug 2002 12:18:00

What's with all the "??????????" and the "non-sensical" sentences? Please,
take your time to write and be coherant. Somebody save the ship from
sinking!!!!

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by **ymenar** » Thu, 22 Aug 2002 14:08:01

> Ymenard YOU WILL NEVER have the lst word with me,

Scott? DGF? George Ojeda?? Anybody care to tell him that's an
impossibility. Please, for his own sake I have a little compassion here,
you know...

Pot, meet Kettle!

Helloooooooooo, like you're stating something new here? Everybody knows I'm
Farnk, the weirdo-in-regulation of this newsgroup.

You've never read the MHO or Jacob's servOr, I see!!! You would totally
freak out, my young apprentice. Long you have to learn, I see....

This simply looks like another flame thread by Frank, as usual. There's
nothing special in what I do, in fact it's very easy as you're an easy troll
bait.

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by **jason moy** » Thu, 22 Aug 2002 14:38:26

On Wed, 21 Aug 2002 05:13:16 +0100, "David Powell"

>people
>will start to alienate you soon cause they think your weird...

I thought that was why we liked him.

Jason

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by **David Powel** » Thu, 22 Aug 2002 21:40:40

You wont as this will be on my site till after death fool

> > Ymenard YOU WILL NEVER have the lst word with me,

> Scott? DGF? George Ojeda?? Anybody care to tell him that's an
> impossibility. Please, for his own sake I have a little compassion here,
> you know...

> > People will think more of you if you just shut up and be quiet now

> Pot, meet Kettle!

> > People will start to alienate you soon cause they think your weird...

> Helloooooooooo, like you're stating something new here? Everybody knows
I'm
> Farnk, the weirdo-in-regulation of this newsgroup.

> You've never read the MHO or Jacob's servOr, I see!!! You would totally
> freak out, my young apprentice. Long you have to learn, I see....

> > think how this looks to people.. on your respected newsgroup.....

> This simply looks like another flame thread by Frank, as usual. There's
> nothing special in what I do, in fact it's very easy as you're an easy
troll
> bait.

> --
> -- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
> -- http://www.ymenard.8m.com/
> -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez
> Corporation - helping America into the New World...

by **Eldre** » Thu, 22 Aug 2002 23:12:06

><snip>

>Who are yoU???

Another incarnation of David Powell?

Eldred
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by **Eldre** » Thu, 22 Aug 2002 23:12:06

>every tried a full GP in GPL with the ferrari? tell me about fuel
>management...

I used to run the Ferrari all the time, and completed several full GPs. I
don't think we ever had anyone run out of fuel on the online GPs I've hosted,
either. Until last IICC season, I didn't even KNOW that some people could run
out of fuel. The league admin didn't want to run a full GP with reallistic
damage because he couldn't do a fuel stop. It was never an issue for me, so I
thought that there was enough fuel for ANYONE to make it.

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by **Lord C** » Fri, 23 Aug 2002 00:09:10

runs out in most GP's when driven "properly"

> >every tried a full GP in GPL with the ferrari? tell me about fuel
> >management...

> I used to run the Ferrari all the time, and completed several full GPs. I
> don't think we ever had anyone run out of fuel on the online GPs I've
hosted,
> either. Until last IICC season, I didn't even KNOW that some people could
run
> out of fuel. The league admin didn't want to run a full GP with
reallistic
> damage because he couldn't do a fuel stop. It was never an issue for me,
so I
> thought that there was enough fuel for ANYONE to make it.

> Eldred
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by **ymenar** » Fri, 23 Aug 2002 01:50:28

> You wont as this will be on my site till after death fool

Look, this is the Usenet. When you do a flamewar against another person,
you don't go over the World Wide Web to chicken out. It's a wuss thing to
do, in fact most of the people will find this ridiculously idiotic and
shamelessly cowardly. Yes, cowardly. It is exactly the situation in which
you are putting yourself in a corner at this moment.

You don't want to argument here with words and text and paragraph and
argumentations. So there, you are a coward.

> > > Ymenard YOU WILL NEVER have the lst word with me,

> > Scott? DGF? George Ojeda?? Anybody care to tell him that's an
> > impossibility. Please, for his own sake I have a little compassion
here,
> > you know...

> > > People will think more of you if you just shut up and be quiet now

> > Pot, meet Kettle!

> > > People will start to alienate you soon cause they think your weird...

> > Helloooooooooo, like you're stating something new here? Everybody knows
> I'm
> > Farnk, the weirdo-in-regulation of this newsgroup.

> > You've never read the MHO or Jacob's servOr, I see!!! You would totally
> > freak out, my young apprentice. Long you have to learn, I see....

> > > think how this looks to people.. on your respected newsgroup.....

> > This simply looks like another flame thread by Frank, as usual. There's
> > nothing special in what I do, in fact it's very easy as you're an easy
> troll
> > bait.

> > --
> > -- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
> > -- http://www.ymenard.8m.com/
> > -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez
> > Corporation - helping America into the New World...

by **ymenar** » Fri, 23 Aug 2002 01:51:49

> ><snip>

> >Who are yoU???

> Another incarnation of David Powell?

Yeah like his "new best friend" that just posted, Gareth, who just
accidentally found this newsgroup today for the first time and saw that his
"best friend" was in trouble of being a coward so he went on his side.

;-)

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