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ymenar

It's The Tom Pabst Show

by ymenar » Thu, 22 Aug 2002 07:47:47

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Who are yoU???

ymenar

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by ymenar » Thu, 22 Aug 2002 07:48:31


> You are replying to your own posts again schizo <G>

Yeah he's the only person I've seen doing this regularly over the past years
here in r.a.s. and various other NG's.

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ymenar

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by ymenar » Thu, 22 Aug 2002 07:49:20


> id expect a list the same as usual.....fastest and most talented at the
top
> winning, slowest at the bottom....

> this argument as a way of thinking youd beat anyone quick is total bolox

:)

Again, it shows that you really don't jack shit about NASCAR racing in
general, and the tactics that enter in it's game.  You would get your arse
whooped there, like totally!

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jason moy

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by jason moy » Thu, 22 Aug 2002 08:16:22

On Tue, 20 Aug 2002 19:34:01 +0100, "David Powell"


>id expect a list the same as usual.....fastest and most talented at the top
>winning, slowest at the bottom....

>this argument as a way of thinking youd beat anyone quick is total bolox :)

You've clearly never played n4 or n2002 then...

Jason

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David Powel

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by David Powel » Thu, 22 Aug 2002 08:49:39

i know good drivers win thats enough! :)



> > id expect a list the same as usual.....fastest and most talented at the
> top
> > winning, slowest at the bottom....

> > this argument as a way of thinking youd beat anyone quick is total bolox
> :)

> Again, it shows that you really don't jack shit about NASCAR racing in
> general, and the tactics that enter in it's game.  You would get your arse
> whooped there, like totally!

> --
> -- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
> -- http://www.ymenard.8m.com/
> -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez
> Corporation - helping America into the New World...

David Powel

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by David Powel » Thu, 22 Aug 2002 08:50:29

is that best you can come up with....nice to you in VROC today, shame you
dont say anything

> On Tue, 20 Aug 2002 19:34:01 +0100, "David Powell"

> >id expect a list the same as usual.....fastest and most talented at the
top
> >winning, slowest at the bottom....

> >this argument as a way of thinking youd beat anyone quick is total bolox
:)

> You've clearly never played n4 or n2002 then...

> Jason

> -----
> GPLRank 24.50
> N2002Rank -12.995

jason moy

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by jason moy » Thu, 22 Aug 2002 09:03:48

On Wed, 21 Aug 2002 00:50:29 +0100, "David Powell"


>is that best you can come up with....

Yes.

Seriously, the difference between a fast driver and a slow driver in
N2002 is less than half a second per lap.  The difference between new
tires and worn tires is about 2 seconds per lap.  A slow driver who
takes care of their equipment can very easily beat a fast driver who
is pushing their car to the limit for an entire race.  I've seen this
happen constantly, both to my benefit and to my loss.  Oval racing
with realistic tire wear is 80% strategy, 20% driver skill.

Sorry, working nights here so I've been idle all day.

Jason

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GPLRank 24.50
N2002Rank -12.995

ymenar

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by ymenar » Thu, 22 Aug 2002 09:19:45


> i know good drivers win thats enough! :)

Sorry, good drivers don't win in NASCAR.  Good racers do.  You can't just
hotlap your way without caring about tyre wear, tyre temps, position of
others, strategy of others, fuel, additional damage like GPL.  Not that
there's anything wrong with GPL <G>

;)  (it's very true, the first lesson you'll learn if you race in online
leagues there).

--
-- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
-- http://www.ymenard.8m.com/
-- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez
Corporation - helping America into the New World...

Bill Bollinge

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by Bill Bollinge » Thu, 22 Aug 2002 09:32:26

Oval racing is about 90% setup, not driver skill.  Road racing is driver
skill.  I don't care how good you are at "taking care of equipment", if your
setup sucks in a TOP LEVEL race, you will get your lunch handed to you.

N2002 requires more knowledge of setup building than GPL by a large margin.


> On Wed, 21 Aug 2002 00:50:29 +0100, "David Powell"

> >is that best you can come up with....

> Yes.

> Seriously, the difference between a fast driver and a slow driver in
> N2002 is less than half a second per lap.  The difference between new
> tires and worn tires is about 2 seconds per lap.  A slow driver who
> takes care of their equipment can very easily beat a fast driver who
> is pushing their car to the limit for an entire race.  I've seen this
> happen constantly, both to my benefit and to my loss.  Oval racing
> with realistic tire wear is 80% strategy, 20% driver skill.

> >nice to you in VROC today, shame you
> >dont say anything

> Sorry, working nights here so I've been idle all day.

> Jason

> -----
> GPLRank 24.50
> N2002Rank -12.995

jason moy

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by jason moy » Thu, 22 Aug 2002 09:57:09

No question.  I was assuming IROC-style equal setups, but yeah, in an
open setup series you need to build a great car or you'll be handed
your lunch.

Jason

On Tue, 20 Aug 2002 19:32:26 -0500, "Bill Bollinger"


>Oval racing is about 90% setup, not driver skill.  Road racing is driver
>skill.  I don't care how good you are at "taking care of equipment", if your
>setup sucks in a TOP LEVEL race, you will get your lunch handed to you.

>N2002 requires more knowledge of setup building than GPL by a large margin.



>> On Wed, 21 Aug 2002 00:50:29 +0100, "David Powell"

>> >is that best you can come up with....

>> Yes.

>> Seriously, the difference between a fast driver and a slow driver in
>> N2002 is less than half a second per lap.  The difference between new
>> tires and worn tires is about 2 seconds per lap.  A slow driver who
>> takes care of their equipment can very easily beat a fast driver who
>> is pushing their car to the limit for an entire race.  I've seen this
>> happen constantly, both to my benefit and to my loss.  Oval racing
>> with realistic tire wear is 80% strategy, 20% driver skill.

>> >nice to you in VROC today, shame you
>> >dont say anything

>> Sorry, working nights here so I've been idle all day.

>> Jason

>> -----
>> GPLRank 24.50
>> N2002Rank -12.995

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GPLRank 24.50
N2002Rank -12.995
David Powel

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by David Powel » Thu, 22 Aug 2002 10:17:44

stupid fool....your talking crap...

your such an annoying little bastard :)

you dont even seem to realise you simply adjust pace to make a car/tyre
last...

every tried a full GP in GPL with the ferrari? tell me about fuel
management...

do you believe what you type?



> > i know good drivers win thats enough! :)

> Sorry, good drivers don't win in NASCAR.  Good racers do.  You can't just
> hotlap your way without caring about tyre wear, tyre temps, position of
> others, strategy of others, fuel, additional damage like GPL.  Not that
> there's anything wrong with GPL <G>

> ;)  (it's very true, the first lesson you'll learn if you race in online
> leagues there).

> --
> -- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
> -- http://www.ymenard.8m.com/
> -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez
> Corporation - helping America into the New World...

David Powel

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by David Powel » Thu, 22 Aug 2002 10:18:45

agreed about the setup...but driver skill still makes the rest of the
difference....


> Oval racing is about 90% setup, not driver skill.  Road racing is driver
> skill.  I don't care how good you are at "taking care of equipment", if
your
> setup sucks in a TOP LEVEL race, you will get your lunch handed to you.

> N2002 requires more knowledge of setup building than GPL by a large
margin.



> > On Wed, 21 Aug 2002 00:50:29 +0100, "David Powell"

> > >is that best you can come up with....

> > Yes.

> > Seriously, the difference between a fast driver and a slow driver in
> > N2002 is less than half a second per lap.  The difference between new
> > tires and worn tires is about 2 seconds per lap.  A slow driver who
> > takes care of their equipment can very easily beat a fast driver who
> > is pushing their car to the limit for an entire race.  I've seen this
> > happen constantly, both to my benefit and to my loss.  Oval racing
> > with realistic tire wear is 80% strategy, 20% driver skill.

> > >nice to you in VROC today, shame you
> > >dont say anything

> > Sorry, working nights here so I've been idle all day.

> > Jason

> > -----
> > GPLRank 24.50
> > N2002Rank -12.995

David Powel

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by David Powel » Thu, 22 Aug 2002 10:27:58

did my racelaps not bend your pespective of me being a hotlapper? or do I
just hotlap for 90laps of zandvoort for 2hrs while there are 20other people
on the track with me....?????????????

If you believe this is true, you must also believe all GPL players at every
level are just hotlapper that do full gp races???????????????

I get it......im fast so im a hotlapper????????? even though I finish races
and look after my tyres?????????? the same tyres that last 4laps till there
over the peak zone in qually????????? the same tyres that I can keep in this
zone for 2hrs??????????or are you not aware that if you drive at the pace
some GPLers do the tyres have gone to ice in 4laps??????? are you not aware
all these same driver make those tyres last a whole race bringing them in
and out of the sweet spot?????????? waiting if there too hot behind the guy
infront for them to cool so he has more grip to make a
pass/attack????????????????or a full GP in ferrari where you havent got
enough juice to finish the race so need to make gearing and gear usage
adjustments????????? man this list could go on for ever...

man your so off the trial in your deluded belief its untrue......!



> stupid fool....your talking crap...

> your such an annoying little bastard :)

> you dont even seem to realise you simply adjust pace to make a car/tyre
> last...

> every tried a full GP in GPL with the ferrari? tell me about fuel
> management...

> do you believe what you type?




> > > i know good drivers win thats enough! :)

> > Sorry, good drivers don't win in NASCAR.  Good racers do.  You can't
just
> > hotlap your way without caring about tyre wear, tyre temps, position of
> > others, strategy of others, fuel, additional damage like GPL.  Not that
> > there's anything wrong with GPL <G>

> > ;)  (it's very true, the first lesson you'll learn if you race in online
> > leagues there).

> > --
> > -- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
> > -- http://www.ymenard.8m.com/
> > -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez
> > Corporation - helping America into the New World...

David Powel

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by David Powel » Thu, 22 Aug 2002 10:29:58

to quote a line from the great Allan Scott tonite "<Al_Scott> me and Barty
had a blast :-) that Barty Mee is a fast clean driver"

surely hes a dirty mean hotlapper in your eyes ynemard? just like me, only
faster so even more shit in races??????



> stupid fool....your talking crap...

> your such an annoying little bastard :)

> you dont even seem to realise you simply adjust pace to make a car/tyre
> last...

> every tried a full GP in GPL with the ferrari? tell me about fuel
> management...

> do you believe what you type?




> > > i know good drivers win thats enough! :)

> > Sorry, good drivers don't win in NASCAR.  Good racers do.  You can't
just
> > hotlap your way without caring about tyre wear, tyre temps, position of
> > others, strategy of others, fuel, additional damage like GPL.  Not that
> > there's anything wrong with GPL <G>

> > ;)  (it's very true, the first lesson you'll learn if you race in online
> > leagues there).

> > --
> > -- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
> > -- http://www.ymenard.8m.com/
> > -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez
> > Corporation - helping America into the New World...

David Powel

It's The Tom Pabst Show

by David Powel » Thu, 22 Aug 2002 10:31:35

this has to go on the site im afraid....it will go in comedy section, as my
readers will love this.....! its truely classic....



> to quote a line from the great Allan Scott tonite "<Al_Scott> me and Barty
> had a blast :-) that Barty Mee is a fast clean driver"

> surely hes a dirty mean hotlapper in your eyes ynemard? just like me, only
> faster so even more shit in races??????



> > stupid fool....your talking crap...

> > your such an annoying little bastard :)

> > you dont even seem to realise you simply adjust pace to make a car/tyre
> > last...

> > every tried a full GP in GPL with the ferrari? tell me about fuel
> > management...

> > do you believe what you type?




> > > > i know good drivers win thats enough! :)

> > > Sorry, good drivers don't win in NASCAR.  Good racers do.  You can't
> just
> > > hotlap your way without caring about tyre wear, tyre temps, position
of
> > > others, strategy of others, fuel, additional damage like GPL.  Not
that
> > > there's anything wrong with GPL <G>

> > > ;)  (it's very true, the first lesson you'll learn if you race in
online
> > > leagues there).

> > > --
> > > -- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
> > > -- http://www.ymenard.8m.com/
> > > -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez
> > > Corporation - helping America into the New World...


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