rec.autos.simulators

> Strangely enough, replacing my DVD-ROM was the solution.  The game would run
> fine using the 01 patch, but not with the new one.

> Apparently Sierra's copy protection schemes were simply not compatible with
> my AOpen DVD-ROM, so after buying a Toshiba drive I am now able to play the
> game once again.

> I really should send Sierra a bill for that.

> >Actually, you should send the bill to Aopen for producing a shoddy drive.  Or send it to yourself
> >for buying a shoddy drive.

> That's it, blame the consumer for shoddy software and hardware. Until
> copy protection came around there was no problem so the blame lies
> solely with those publishers that choose to use it.

> --
> Experience is the name everyone gives to their mistakes.

> "Don't touch that please, your primitive intellect wouldn't understand
> alloys and compositions and,......things with molecular structures,....and
> the....." - Ash

> > bleeted:

> > >Actually, you should send the bill to Aopen for producing a shoddy

> Mitch

> >Its shoddy hardware, don't
> > blame copy -protection, although that IS the consumers fault.  If people
> would quit pirating sw, the
> > companies wouldn't feel they had to use it.  Make no mistake, copy
> protection IS the CONSUMER'S
> > fault, noone elses.
> > --
> > Biz

> > "Don't touch that please, your primitive intellect wouldn't understand
> > alloys and compositions and,......things with molecular structures,....and
> > the....." - Ash

> > > bleeted:

> > > >Actually, you should send the bill to Aopen for producing a shoddy
> drive.  Or send it to yourself
> > > >for buying a shoddy drive.

> > > That's it, blame the consumer for shoddy software and hardware. Until
> > > copy protection came around there was no problem so the blame lies
> > > solely with those publishers that choose to use it.

> > > --
> > > Experience is the name everyone gives to their mistakes.

> "Don't touch that please, your primitive intellect wouldn't understand
> alloys and compositions and,......things with molecular structures,....and
> the....." - Ash

> > WTF are you talking about Biz??  I *BUY* my software, so how is it *MY*
> > fault as a consumer that the dev's copy protection scheme doesnt work on
my
> > CD?  This is the only industry that the corperations can pull this ***
on
> > their customers and still get away with it.  After you realize it's your
CD
> > you cant take back the ***software because it's been opened.  As a
> > consumer I'm freakin po'd...  Beyond this is the fact that after I've
been
> > screwed by a dev I'm then *MUCH* more likely to download a pirate copy
than
> > prior to being screwed.

> > Mitch

> > >Its shoddy hardware, don't
> > > blame copy -protection, although that IS the consumers fault.  If
people
> > would quit pirating sw, the
> > > companies wouldn't feel they had to use it.  Make no mistake, copy
> > protection IS the CONSUMER'S
> > > fault, noone elses.
> > > --
> > > Biz

> > > "Don't touch that please, your primitive intellect wouldn't understand
> > > alloys and compositions and,......things with molecular
structures,....and
> > > the....." - Ash

> > > > bleeted:

> > > > >Actually, you should send the bill to Aopen for producing a shoddy
> > drive.  Or send it to yourself
> > > > >for buying a shoddy drive.

> > > > That's it, blame the consumer for shoddy software and hardware.
Until
> > > > copy protection came around there was no problem so the blame lies
> > > > solely with those publishers that choose to use it.

> > > > --
> > > > Experience is the name everyone gives to their mistakes.

> >Wake up and get a clue, for every person that buys a copy, there's at least
> >one that doesn't buy it
> >and gets a pirated copy...they are part of the same consumer group you and I
> >belong to, so it IS the
> >consumer causing this to happen.  It's the hardware manufacturer's fault for
> >shoddy crap, when the
> >copy-protection works on 98% of the drives out there.

> The copy protection only screws the peole who BUY the game.  CP schemes don't
> work with all hardware, so some people can't use what they've paid for.  The
> pirates get versions that actually WORK.
> So who's winning this war?

>>Wake up and get a clue, for every person that buys a copy, there's at least one that doesn't buy it
>>and gets a pirated copy...they are part of the same consumer group you and I belong to, so it IS the
>>consumer causing this to happen.  It's the hardware manufacturer's fault for shoddy crap, when the
>>copy-protection works on 98% of the drives out there.

> Copy protection isn't going to stop the pirates. Or haven't you
> figured that out yet? Again, 'dumbass' would be appropriate here, but
> I shall refrain again. Hehe.

>> bleeted:

>>> Wake up and get a clue, for every person that buys a copy, there's at
>>> least one that doesn't buy it
>>> and gets a pirated copy...they are part of the same consumer group
>>> you and I belong to, so it IS the
>>> consumer causing this to happen.  It's the hardware manufacturer's
>>> fault for shoddy crap, when the
>>> copy-protection works on 98% of the drives out there.

>> Copy protection isn't going to stop the pirates. Or haven't you
>> figured that out yet? Again, 'dumbass' would be appropriate here, but
>> I shall refrain again. Hehe.

> Yep.  The only ones that benefit from copy protection are the companies
> that *market* the service to these software companies.  Warez being
> alive & well proves that copy protection does not work as intended.

>     Which brings up the three most salient points about copy protection.
>     I have NEVER heard in any format of a copy -protected product that has
> it's price reduced since the cp means everyone who would have pirated now
> must buy it...
> and...
>   I have never heard of any company that reduced the price of either a Non
> cp or cp product.  As shown above, whatever they can do to make money, they
> will.
>   Finally  No copy protection ever invented will stop motivated people from
> cracking it.

>>The copy protection only screws the peole who BUY the game.  CP schemes
>don't
>>work with all hardware, so some people can't use what they've paid for.  The
>>pirates get versions that actually WORK.
>>So who's winning this war?

>>Eldred

>Yep, lost of people who just bought Never Winter Nights (RPG) can't
>even install the game because of CP.