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Eau Rouge, in F1RS, in a car that is set up properly, is very tricky.
If you can take Eau Rouge without lifting off and the car does not start
to feel twitchy, then you do not have the car set up to the optimum.

In the rain it is even more nervous.

Replays are simply un-necessary accessories........they serve no useful
purpose so whether they are good/bad/included/not included is immaterial
to me.  What *is* useful is to spend a couple of laps in the***pit of
an AI car.....check out the speeds, gears and times and learn from it.
Now that facility *is* worth the HDD space.

Haven't you figured out the menu system and the save facility yet?
Whilst not user friendly it is certainly one of the more comprehensive
'save' systems.  I have more configurations/setups combinations than you
could poke a stick at.  I also have no problems in re-entering a saved
game.  You won't learn much about it via the manual, only through
experimentation.

--
Bruce
(at work)

"Laziness is nothing more than the habit of resting before you get
tired."
(Jules Renard)

On Mon, 19 Jan 1998 16:51:15 -0600, "Greg Cisko"

<yawn>

The top GP2 drivers could catch slides OK. I don't see why making it
easier to drive a F1 car should be considered more realistic.

Cheers,
Richard

On Tue, 20 Jan 1998 15:52:51 +1100, Bruce Kennewell

You're still out by years.

No, you are just inventing facts to overcome a goof!

Cheers,
Richard

On Mon, 19 Jan 1998 16:27:21 -0600, "Greg Cisko"

I don't bother with championships. I don't have the motivation to run a
whole series against AI.

Cheers,
Richard

On Tue, 20 Jan 1998 16:01:23 +1100, Bruce Kennewell

Agreed. But you saw fit to comment on replays in a totally negative
manner, so don't blame me for responding ;-)

<sigh>

Please don't always assume you're talking to an imbecile. I'm not saying
that it's not a correct assumption, but are you sure you have enough
facts to base it on? <g>

Of course I know how to use the menu & save / load things. But please
tell me how to get it to remember my previous setup at a circuit.

Cheers,
Richard

On Mon, 19 Jan 1998 16:43:13 -0600, "Greg Cisko"

I'm all in favour of variable weather, etc. But it would be nice if F1RS
actually told you what the temperature and wind is and, just as
importantly, allows you to set them yourself!

It doesn't have to be that way. Apply a little intelligence & common
sense and who knows what might happen ;-)

Getting paid of course!

Or do you also believe the real drivers comments about CPR?

Hint: It's called 'product endor***t'

Yeah, sure. It may come as a shock to you but some people can enjoy more
than one sim for the good parts of those sims. If F1RS wasn't a top sim I
wouldn't drive it. But I don't write off other sims just because they are
not the 'latest thing'.

Tell Randy that, not me. Overall F1RS gives me a very good impression of
speed, at least as good as GP2.

Cheers,
Richard

I'm still a hotlapper at heart but I've rather changed my driving style
over the last 6 months or so and concentrate more on driving a 'get to
the end of the race' approach. Around the time you were in F1SA I
couldn't finish a complete race without several spins, broken wings, etc
<g> Last season though I managed a complete WW race without a single
incident.

Actually, it's the slow corners that I like in F1RS and the fast ones
that don't seem to have captured the sensation of driving a F1 car at
it's limits.

Monaco in the rain feels just like it looked in last year's GP. No other
sim has come close to that experience.

Maybe it just reflects different driving styles.

I've got a PII 300 with Righteous 3D and I've never tried the D3D version
so I can't comment. It does appear though that the D3D version was
something of an afterthought by Ubisoft.

It's nearly there. It has introduced some important firsts but in
striving to add new things I think some care has been diverted away from
core sim essentials.

It should tide me over until GPL gets released though <g>

Cheers,
Richard

This is getting tiring isn't it?

I never said it was easier to drive. I claimed it was a better driving
model.
You somehow took that to mean easier. TIme to move on I think.

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1) No car is *stable* if you are driving at ten-tenths.  Ask any current
and previous F1 driver what it's like to try and take Eau Rouge flat out
in a car that is primarily set up for the rest of the circuit.

2)  Replays *are* totally negative, irrespective of which simulation
they may be in. Some sims, however, present them in a better manner than
others.  Papyrus have the best replay format of them all.  However, I
still consider them un-necessary baggage.

3)  If the cap fits, wear it.  If you do not know how to save and load a
particular setup/configuration then ask Ubi Soft.  Perhaps they can
explain it to you.

--
Bruce
(at work)

"Laziness is nothing more than the habit of resting before you get
tired."
(Jules Renard)

Randy
Randy Magruder
Contributing Reviewer
Digital Sportspage
http://www.digitalsports.com

   Fish tailing is something that requires staying on the throttle once
out of shape. How many F1 drivers are willing and able to do this.
That's why you don't see it much but you DO see it.

:-)

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That may be the case. It is certainly possible to catch spins in GP2,
just ***y difficult.

Okay - you're running at Monza just now. My laps at monza are in the
1:22s range - how conservative is that....? :-)

Overall I'd say you're right, it absolutely creams GP2 in the graphics
and frame-ratedept. I score it far more closely than you in terms of
driving though, with GP2 a bit ahead on the overall experience. GP2
also wins out in areas like sound and setup. Overall F1RS is better I
think, but purely from a driving viewpoint I still prefer GP2.

Cheers!
John

On Mon, 19 Jan 1998 16:43:13 -0600, "Greg Cisko"

Looks like it. You want us to say it's fantastic and as good as you
think it is. Richard and I both think it's very good, but the things
we are expecting and looking for are not there. As long as we are
looking for different things from the product I don't see how our
opinions could converge.

Cheers!
John