>>GP2? When there is F1RS, GP2 goes in the grabage can. Mine just did :-)
>Well, I'm not quite that enthusiastic about F1RS. It's good, but then
>so is GP2 and the differening reasons are enough to make me keep them
>both.
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Not at all. It is just that if you say something that is obvious rubbish,
you will
be called to task on it. Sorry.
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>>Don't take this the wrong way, but this statement about GP2 being better
>>than F1RS pretty much disqualifies you from knowing anything about
>>this stuff IMHO.
>Gee, how am I supposed to take that the *RIGHT* way? By the way, when
>you write something like that, and don't back it up, its just a
>personal cheap-shot.
After I stop laughing...
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>>>GP2? When there is F1RS, GP2 goes in the grabage can. Mine just did :-)
>>Well, I'm not quite that enthusiastic about F1RS. It's good, but then
>>so is GP2 and the differening reasons are enough to make me keep them
>>both.
>Well maybe I played GP2 too much because I think it is ***in comparision.
>What exactly about GP2 is better than F1RS in you opinion (other than the
>race restart thing)?
Hey! How do you restart a race in GP2? I could use that feature. After
first corner accidents, especially ...
Arto, "not too eager in reading manuals"
On Fri, 16 Jan 1998 18:24:31 -0600, "Greg Cisko"
>After I stop laughing...
And when it comes to the opinions that people look out for because they
know they are worth trusting, I don't recall your name being especially
high on the list....
You're entitled to your opinion, just as Randy is, but if you try
insisting that your opinion is the only one that matters you are digging
a *very* deep hole for yourself.
Cheers,
Richard
>> So when
>>you say something stupid like GP2 being better than F1RS I guess I will
>>call you on it.
>>After I stop laughing...
>Give up, you're making yourself look a right prat. In many ways, GP2 is
>better than F1RS. In roughly the same number of ways, F1RS is better. As
>with most sims, direct comparisons are meaningless. Just because you have
>an *opinion* doesn't make you right.
Yes I am sure you are right there.
So how exactly does this make GP2 better than F2RS?
:-)
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On Sat, 17 Jan 1998 08:27:17 -0600, "Greg Cisko"
It doesn't, that's exactly the point.
Cheers!
John
>>Well excuse me, I guess in order to realize that F1RS is better
>>than GP2, you would have to know something about Formula
>>One.
>By that argument so would you - do you?
I wonder how many people with a P5-166 (or faster)/3dfx and F1RS will
do more with GP2 other than compare it to F1RS. In other words it would
be a complete waste of time for me to play GP2 anymore when I have
F1RS. The variable weather and AI alone make the difference.
IMHO. But of course I am way out of line with that. So I apologize again.
And again and again....
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than GP2, you would have to know something about Formula
One.>>
How many real Formula One cars have you driven? Please share with us your
solid and reality-based experiences which demonstrate that the driving model is
more realistic in F1RS than GP2? Its easy for you to slam anyone who disagrees
with you, but you haven't actually provided any knowledgable case for what
you're saying.
Randy
Randy Magruder
Staff Writer
Digital Sportspage
http://www.digitalsports.com/
Hey, I didn't say I was a Formula One guru, or an Bernie E. lover.
While I do know my far share of F1 that does not mean that
I know every thing. In fact you just have to know something about
F1 to know that the racing experience in F1RS far surpasses
the racing experience in GP2.
In GP2 you can start a session with hazy weather conditions and
have it clear up? Then have clouds go infront of the sun to make
it cloudy? No. But the changing conditions are part of F1 racing
and F1RS models this fantastically. The physics model in F1RS is
far better than the model in GP2, (which still had the riding rails
feel to it). All you have to do is run F1RS for a few hours with all
the cheats off and you should "get it". In F1RS the sense of speed
far exceeds what GP2 shows. I am constant amazed how the AI
will blast away from you coming out of the turns. This is exactly
what everyone sees from the F1 incar cameras.
OK another one. When driving in the rain (oh nuts GP2 did not
have rain) the physics of the car and handling is totally realistic.
Have I driven an F1 car? No of course not. But I know the real deal
when I see it. I liked GP2 when it was released. I was sad that it
lacked rain. No doubt it would have really screwed the framerate.
IMHO GP2 was just a 640x480 version of World Circuit without rain.
It still had the lame 20 second replays (Papy knows how to do replays
and F1RS is not far behind), no rain (when World Circuit had pretty
good rain), a complete and absolute rip off/excuse for modem/modem
play and no other software support from the MFR.
And you actually have the gall to claim that GP2 is better than F1RS?
HAHAHAHA. Sure the menu in GP2 was better, but so what? I guess
I care more about the driving/racing experience.
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Glad to see you back to your honest self Alison! I thought you'd gone
the way of a misguided flock of sheep there for a while. This opinion is
very valid since anyone who's been around for a while knows that, like
many, you tried hard to like CPR (and be fair toward it) but it
ultimately lead you to endless frustration. My ultimate conclusion is
that there is much anti MS sentiment for very good reason. I severly
doubt CPR can be patched into anything worthwhile. Even a CPR II seems
doomed since it would be going up against the mighty (very probably
mighty) CART II (ICR3). Me thinks MS should get Win 98 and Direct X
right and leave the sims to the experts :) Sorry Bill, no one can
conquer the ENTIRE world, hehehehehehehehe.
> >>Frankly after playing F1RS, I am tempted to just delete CPR and
> >>not worry about it anymore.
> >Been there, done that.
> If you have been playing F1RS and like it, I *guarantee* you won't like
> CPR. When I went back to CPR after a couple of weeks of F1RS, I was
> repelled.
> Save your time energy for something fun or useful (as in, doing
> something other than trying to get CPR to work!)
> >I'm not happy about doing that, CPR was a valiant attempt, but when
> >there's F1RS, ICR2 and GP2 it just doesn't cut it when compared to the
> >competition. I have the demo saved somewhere, and that'll do me until
> >V2.0 arrives.
> I concur. <Click> Delete. Bye, bye CPR.
> Too bad the 30 day return window has passed so I can't hit Microsoft
> where it counts: in the bottom line. But even if I could get my 50
> bucks back, nothing would replace all those hours I wasted on this dud.
> Eagle Woman
> Remove the spam blocker NOSPAM to email me.
> http://www.nh.ultranet.com/~alison
> >Before I waste my time downloading the patch, is the AI fixed? Is
> >the AI fixed on the ovals? Or do they still slow down in the turns.
> >Frankly after playing F1RS, I am tempted to just delete CPR and
> >not worry about it anymore.
> The AI doesnt slow down for corners, but still drives bad. They still cause
> big wrecks. Basically the game still stinks. I havent played F1RS, how is it?
